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Motivations for editing Wikipedia

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Hi Pine, you had asked about Motivations for editing Wikipedia ↗. I have collected graphs about that at :de:user:Atlasowa/editor motivation ↗, because it's an important question and almost everyone thinks about this at some time. Here are some answers:

thumb|left|600px|Q5a. Percent who started contributing to Wikipedia due to the following reasons. (n=4,930) :meta:Editor_Survey_2011/Editing_Activities ↗. ↗

thumb|left|600px|"Reasons for continuing to contribute", WP Editor Survey April 2011 ↗

thumb|left|600px|"The motivations of highly active Wikipedians", Wikimania 2012 talk|page=18 ↗

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File:WP April 2011, Editor Survey, Positive feedback loops work.png|"What makes you more likely to edit?" WP Editor Survey April 2011
File:WP April 2011, Editor Survey, Negative feedback loops don't work.png|"What makes you less likely to edit?" WP Editor Survey April 2011
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thumb|left|600px|Q7c. Percent who believe they might become less active due to the listed reasons (n=4,930) :meta:Editor_Survey_2011/Editing_Activities ↗. ↗

[[File:Levels of engagement for Wikipedia editors.png|thumb|left|600px|(Q25. Below is a list of levels of engagement editors have with Wikipedia. Please select ALL that apply; (base = 5805) "Levels of engagement for Wikipedia editors", (WMF Blog: Highlights from the December 2011 Wikipedia Editors Survey ↗, May 25, 2012)]]

thumb|left|600px|"What might make you contribute more?" :File:Results_of_Arabic_Wikipedia_Reader_Survey_-_2012.pdf|Arabic Wikipedia Reader Survey 2012 ↗|page=32 ↗

thumb|left|600px|"What stopped you from editing Wikipedia?" [[:File:Philippines_readers_survey.pdf|Philippines Wikipedia Reader Survey ↗ January 2012 (see also [//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Geo-targeted_Editors_Participation/report#Survey])|page=3]]

[[File:Edits anonymous.png|thumb|left|600px|QD3b. What prompted you to set up a user account? n=6378. (RETROACTIVE justification!) (WMF Blog: Highlights from the December 2011 Wikipedia Editors Survey ↗, May 10, 2012)]]

[[File:Account creation survey - de.png|thumb|left|600px|"Why create an account on Wikipedia?" (IMMEDIATE survey on the page that new users "land" after they have created their new accounts.) Results of the account creation survey ↗, January/February 2011. This data has been gathered as part of the Account Creation Improvement Project ↗]]

[[File:Wikimania_2011_-_Editor_surveys_and_analysis.ogv |thumbtime=26:57 |thumb|left|600px |60% of editors whose edits had been reverted without any explanation said that this made them less likely to edit, while only 9% of editors whose edits had been reverted with explanation felt less inclined to edit. (Video by Barry Newstead (WMF) watch ↗ )]]

thumb|left|600px|'''41%''' is the mean number of test editors who contributed after being reverted and warned. '''9%''' is the mean percent of test editors who contributed after being '''reverted with no message'''" (Wikimania 2012 talk "Welcome to Wikipedia, now please go away: improving how we communicate with new editors". Steven Walling and Maryana Pinchuk, :commons:File:Template_A-B_testing_presentation_deck.pdf ↗)|page=10 ↗

thumb|left|600px|B3. Have you EVER edited Wikipedia (for instance, fixed a mistake or changed spelling)? (Base: 4000) [[:meta:Research:Wikipedia Readership Survey 2011/Results|Results of Readers Survey 2011 ↗ (Only 6% of Wikipedia readers overall indicate that they have ever edited Wikipedia content. In the US: 31%; Germany: 12%; UK: 9% https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_Readership_Survey_2011/Results#a._Only_6.25_of_our_readers_have_ever_made_an_edit_to_Wikipedia ↗).]]

[[File:Readers Survey 2011 Reasons for not editing.png|thumb|left|600px|B5. Why don't you edit Wikipedia? (Base: 3461) Readers Survey 2011 ↗: Reasons for not editing]]

thumb|left|600px|Global South User Survey 2014: WHAT FIRST MOTIVATED YOU TO EDIT WIKIPEDIA? page 235 and detailed on following pages|page=235 ↗

thumb|left|600px|Global South User Survey 2014: WHAT FIRST MOTIVATED YOU TO EDIT WIKIPEDIA? per country|page=236 ↗

thumb|left|600px|Global South User Survey 2014: WHAT THINGS MIGHT HELP YOU CONTRIBUTE MORE? page 214 and detailed on following pages|page=214 ↗
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HTH, best --Atlasowa (talk) 09:20, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

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Hi. You are now listed as missing ↗. Should you ever return or choose not to be listed, you are welcome to remove your name. Chris Troutman (talk) 20:24, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
:Pine is on long wiki vacation. They announced their break before they left at Wikimedia affiliate meetings, and are following other interests. ''' Bluerasberry '''(talk) 21:00, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

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Happy New Year, Pine!

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'''Pine''', Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year ↗, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Welcome back!!

So good to see you—I don't think our peak times ever crossed, but I really appreciated the ''On The Bright Side'' columns in old ''Signpost'' editions. I imagine Clovermoss will be happy to see you are editing again :) House '''Blaster''' ↗ (talk • he/they) 06:58, 7 March 2026 (UTC)

Hello {{u|HouseBlaster}}, thank you. I'm grateful that you remember that series. Clovermoss and I are in contact. You might like to preview User talk:Clovermoss#Canadian Rangers participate in Operation Enduring Encyclopedia, which I'm planning to include in the April issue of ''The Signpost''. How are things on ENWP? Is everything going smoothly? ↠Pine (✉) 00:06, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

:Things are going well on enwiki, though the backlogs are as backlogged as ever...Glad to hear you are in touch with Clover, and I look forward to seeing that column in the April edition :) House '''Blaster''' ↗ (talk • he/they) 07:06, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

::{{ping|HouseBlaster}} thanks for the comment and for introducing yourself.
::If you have some suggestions about those which WMF could address, perhaps you'd like to comment on the :meta:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027/Collaboration ↗ page.
::May I ask if, from your perspective, anything has gotten better socially or technically in the past few years? ↠Pine (✉) 02:44, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
:::Great question. I'm not feeling amazing so I am limiting myself to Wikipedia matters which are relatively easy. I'll try to take a peak when I am feeling better (ideally by the weekend). Best, House '''Blaster''' ↗ (talk • he/they) 21:55, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
::::{{ping|HouseBlaster}} that sounds good. In case you're interested in a realtime audio/video discussion about the annual plan, I'm planning to have such a discussion in an April session of the :meta:Wikimedia Café ↗. Also see :meta:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027/Collaboration#Co-created Community spaces ↗. ↠Pine (✉) 02:31, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
::::Here we go. Socially, I think the biggest change is the enwiki community is better at blocking the WP:UNBLOCKABLES ↗, and that is a long time coming. I couldn't tell you why this is, but it seems to be a big culture shift. Technically, multiblocks (the ability to layer blocks, such as an indefinite partial block plus a three day site block) and temporary accounts are two great initiatives from the WMF. I am also super appreciative of the work they did on Special:SuggestedInvestigations ↗, which catches tons of ban actors.Regarding the WMF, I think we are in a better place because they are better at actually listening to the concerns of the unpaid volunteers. There's still more to do, but this is a great improvement from where we were. Best, House '''Blaster''' ↗ (talk • he/they) 14:55, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|HouseBlaster}} thanks for the comments. I'm glad that things are improving. I too believe that WMF has gotten better at listening in the past few years, during Maryana's tenure as WMF CEO, and that this has reduced the frequency of clashes between WMF and non-WMF participants, although the time-intensive meta:Movement Charter ↗ process' outcome was disappointing. We'll see how things go with Maryana's successor Bernadette; I'm hopeful that Bernadette's professional background in international diplomacy will be an asset. Thanks again for the comments. ↠Pine (✉) 15:14, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi {{ping|HouseBlaster|Clovermoss}} would either of you be interested in collaborating on the June installment of ''The Signpost'' for an "On the Bright Side" piece? ↠Pine (✉) 04:49, 19 May 2026 (UTC)

:I'll give Clover the right of first refusal on this, but I'd be happy to take a stab at something! (Or perhaps all three of us can work on it?) Best, House '''Blaster''' ↗ (talk • he/they) 04:50, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
::Thanks for being willing to participate. If the article is divided by weeks, there will be enough space for each person in a group of three to have at least one week for their comments. Dividing the piece by weeks is an easy option. An analogy would be how space is shared in a community garden ↗. People can comment on more than one week, but I'd request that the visual space used for each week be similar regardless of how many people contribute content. As the piece develops we can get more specific with how the space is used. ↠Pine (✉) 04:59, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
:::Maybe next month, I'm still fairly busy at the moment with certain things going on IRL. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 10:36, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
:::*{{ping|HouseBlaster|Clovermoss}} okay. We can follow up on this. ↠Pine (✉) 01:20, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
:::*Hi {{ping|HouseBlaster|Clovermoss}}, please see Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/On the bright side ↗. I divided the work so that each of us has at most two weeks of content to apply, and I suggested themes for each week. You can boldly change the themes of "your" weeks if you wish. You don't need to use galleries, and you can use text content only or a multimedia mix. The amount of content can be small if you prefer, but please try not to make the quantity for any one week be huge. Please take a look at the draft, and let me know if you'd like to participate this way. Thank you, ↠Pine (✉) 05:39, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
:::*:That looks awesome! I'll wait for you to write a completed week so I have a model for what I'm going for. Best, House '''Blaster''' ↗ (talk • he/they) 17:58, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
:::*::{{ping|HouseBlaster}} you can use previous OTBS publications as examples, such as Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2020-06-28/On the bright side ↗ and Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2019-06-30/On the bright side ↗. ↠Pine (✉) 19:06, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
:::*:::Oh of course. Thank you :) House '''Blaster''' ↗ (talk • he/they) 22:07, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
:::*:::Hi {{ping|HouseBlaster|Clovermoss}} when do you think you can complete the weeks which have your names on them? The ''Signpost'' writing deadline for this issue is 20 June, and I'd prefer to have the writing completed by 16 June so that we have a few days to resolve any issues before the deadline. Thanks, ↠Pine (✉) 05:27, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
:::*::::I'm planning to do it tonight :) House '''Blaster''' ↗ (talk • he/they) 16:47, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
:::*::::: {{ping|HouseBlaster|Clovermoss}} thanks very much for the contributions. I expanded the sections that were started by Houseblaster. I think that OTBS is good to go for this issue. Please look over the entire article once for anything that you'd like to change. ''The Signpost'' is scheduled to publish tomorrow, although publication might have a delay depending on the availability of the people who can start the presses. ↠Pine (✉) 03:39, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
:::*::::::Thank you so much for your help, Pine :)I've read the entire thing and it looks great. Again, my deep appreciation for your help. Best, House '''Blaster''' ↗ (talk • he/they) 03:46, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you

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Thanks, {{u|Bri}}. The ''Signpost'' is a lot more work behind the scenes than may be commonly known. I'm glad that you keep the ball rolling. ↠Pine (✉) 02:46, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Seattle Downtown Aerial, July 2025 (zoomed).jpg ↗

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Speedy deletion ↗ of :Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/From the editors ↗

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Please do not recreate the material without addressing these concerns, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines ↗. If you think this page should not have been deleted for this reason, or you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the {{Querylink|Special:Log|qs=type=delete&page=Wikipedia%3AWikipedia+Signpost%2FNext+issue%2FFrom+the+editors|deleting administrator}}, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here ↗.  Sohom (talk) 17:50, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Sohom Datta}} thank you for this maintenance cleanup, but I believe any deletions like this in the Signpost project space should be discussed on the newsroom talk page ↗. There is a discussion about this specific piece at Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom#22:6 From the editors ↗. While I would have suggested that the page be deleted, I would prefer that User:JPxG, or the person who runs the publication process for the upcoming issue, make that decision. ↠Pine (✉) 17:54, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
::My deletion is purely procedural in nature, not a unilateral action wrt to the underlying discussion. I was following the discussion and saw your move but saw that you left a redirect and then blanked the page. This sequence of actions typically makes it harder to reverse moves since it means that to reverse your move, the EiC (or any other editor) would need to flag down a admin (or in JPxG's case use his admin powers) to delete the page first before moving the page back. I just performed the procedural action of deleting the page so that if folks (JPxG as the EiC or others) do want to reverse your action to publish the post, they will just need to move the page back. Sohom (talk) 18:04, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
::*{{ping|Sohom Datta}} thanks for clarifying. This is fine with me. I hope that JPxG will soon publish the upcoming issue. ↠Pine (✉) 18:06, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

Delist and replace discussion of an image you nominated

Howdy - I've made a request ↗ on featured pictures candidates ↗ page to delist and replace a photo you originally nominated ↗ - Bierstadt ↗'s ''Among the Sierra Nevada, California ↗''. I think the photo as it is is incredibly yellowed compared to the actual painting, and that the replacement image (which was uploaded by the Smithsonian) is a better representation of the existing artwork. Would appreciate your input, as the original nominator, in the discussion. First time doing this, so apologies if anything isn't 100% by the book.

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{{ping|User:Northern-Virginia-Photographer}} thanks very much for the notice. I'll respond on the D&R page. ↠Pine (✉) 00:09, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

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