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Why so antagonistic?



To quote a recent edit summary on :Template:User Profane ↗ that you left, “Add a damn category to get this into a sorting category instead of being completely uncategorized, per Wikipedia:Categorization#Categorizing pages ↗”. Why would you be so rude when you could have instead been polite? Coolgurl5555 🩷 (talk ↗)(sign ↗) 02:41, 23 February 2026 (UTC)
:Because <em>This user swears too much ↗</em>!!! I was just trying to read the room and set the tone of my edit summary accordingly ↗. If we can't have fun in our edit summaries, where can we have fun? Happy editing! (P.S. I'll be happy to put a quarter in your swear jar for my edit summary. Let me know where it lives.)– Jonesey95 (talk) 02:46, 23 February 2026 (UTC)
::Oh I’m fucking stupid I’m so so sorry. Coolgurl5555 🩷 (talk ↗)(sign ↗) 02:47, 23 February 2026 (UTC)
:::I wasn't sure if you came here to continue the joke or were legitimately missing the bit. Either way, I hope we brightened the mood of a few of my talk page stalkers. Conveying tone in pure written words has always been a challenge. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:49, 23 February 2026 (UTC)
::::{{tps}} Yup, brighter now. MinorProphet (talk) 21:27, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
:::::Glad something good came out of my humiliation :3 <span style="color:#bf73ea">- <span style="color:#c451ac"> coolgurl5555 </span> ✈︎ (she/her) ✈︎</span> 23:15, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Precious anniversary


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(trying to fill the space:) I also thank Arjayay a lot, without intention. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:41, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

:My favourite space-filler: {{tl|lorem ipsum}} {{lorem ipsum}}
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Thanks, etc.


thumb|Juvenile steelhead trout, awarded to MinorProphet (talk) by Jonesey95 ↗
Hi, I decided to take a break from the wholly dispiriting world news dominated by the orange baboon ("Please step back from the bottomless chasm, Mr. President, sir") and had a look at some old unfinished drafts. I came across your kind fix in this edit,https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:MinorProphet/Draft_subpages/Die_grauen_Stunden&oldid=1260261137 ↗, for which thanks very much. I'm sure you know that everything is freely editable everywhere on WP, but even long-time contributors don't always appreciate their sacred draft texts being tampered with: for me, it's nice to know that at least one other person has had a look at my scribblings. Please carry on, it's good that the work behind the scenes is always continuing. I left another comment a bit further up, although this is the first time I've glanced at this page. I noticed you are—like me—a precious ↗ editor (why no {{tl|precious topicon}} ? ) so hi again Gerda ↗, we really must stop meeting like this... :) MinorProphet (talk) 21:28, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
:Thanks for the note. I know the guidelines and policies pretty well, which is why I use that specific edit summary when editing User-space pages. Gnomes and bots fix errors, and some User pages have errors. That's how Wikipedia is. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:25, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
::I love being shown to be wrong: if I read, mark and inwardly digest 'the truth', then hopefully I'll be right next time.<br><small>PS Sometimes I deliberately leave a "the the" just lying around, to give Arjayay ↗ something to do... I always thank them anyway ;)</small> MinorProphet (talk) 18:36, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
:::I also do not mind being wrong. I get to improve. But "the the" on purpose is just mean! A mini-trout to you. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:16, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
::::I might not have been entirely serious. Anyway, a baby trout for me. MinorProphet (talk) 13:38, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Deletion review for :Zack Polanski breast enlargement controversy ↗


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Infobox edit request



I have reactivated my edit request at the talkpage for the infobox royalty template. Векочел (talk) 02:45, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
:... without following the instructions that I suggested to get your changes tested properly. Copy the entire live template code to the sandbox <em>before</em> making changes to the sandbox, so that the only differences between the live template and the sandbox are your proposed changes. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:56, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
::I added the relevant parameters to the sandbox in this edit ↗ and tested them in the test cases page. It should be working now. I do not have the ability to edit the live template. Векочел (talk) 21:20, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

Whyiseverythingalreadyused interfering with Wikipedia



Hi Jonesey95, can have a look at Whyiseverythingalreadyused contributions they are referencing thing that are 20 years out of date and do not reflect things in 2026, They intially add a few Templates on a page which are irrelevant and do not compared to the standard Wikipedia set ups and they add Elite and embellish things on the page, maybe a 72hr ban from Wikipedia is a consideration.

For your consideration,

Kind Regards,

Exsap Exsap (talk) 03:34, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
:Take it to WP:ANI ↗. Make sure to read the instructions. Provide links to diffs showing the editor's specific edits that are causing problems. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:19, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

May 2026 meetup in Portland (Online participation available!)



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COME BACK!



We miss you Jonesey! Hope you are enjoying your Wikibreak and are doing something fun but come back soon!!! '''<span style="color:#00d5ff !important">Zack</span><span style="color:#007F94 !important">mann</span>''' (<sup>Talk to me ↗</sup>/<sub><span style="color:orange !important">What I been doing</span> ↗</sub>) 17:23, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
:I was on a truly epic adventure for 34 days, with no internet access for much of that time. I had no computer, and my phone was literally in airplane mode for 22 straight days, charging solely from solar energy. The rest of the time, I had no computer and a bad cell signal. I saw a lot of nature and it was amazing. I'm back now, with some IRL catching up to do. Editing will probably be light for the rest of the month. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:21, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
::Welcome back!!! Sounds like you had a great time. '''<span style="color:#00d5ff !important">Zack</span><span style="color:#007F94 !important">mann</span>''' (<sup>Talk to me ↗</sup>/<sub><span style="color:orange !important">What I been doing</span> ↗</sub>) 03:24, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
::If you get that far behind, you won't ever catch up. For a start, you'll find that your watchlist maxes out at 30 days or 1000 edits, whichever produces the shorter list. --<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 08:45, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
:::Catching up now. The "hist" link and the namespace dropdown selector are my friends. I have often wished that the watchlist were better at helping with multi-day absences, but my submissions for the community wish list have never received enough votes. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:57, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
::::Welcome back! You missed a few template error avalanches and some WP:THURSDAY ↗ "fun" (most have cleared). If you want a little mystery, there's a lint error with some templates for creating various urls that are triggering empty header errors, and some link in link errors from pages/templates that haven't been edited recently. Seems to be url(((1))) style triggering these. Some statements/timeline at here ↗ and here ↗. I think it's an unresolved Thursday given their timing. Zinnober9 (talk) 14:54, 23 May 2026 (UTC)

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June 2026 meetup in Portland (Online participation available!)



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"What am I missing"



Re: Special:Diff/1357350618 ↗, nothing, just that I apparently lost my mind and forgot how to be thorough. No excuses for me other than the explanation that I was using AWB to remove {{tlc|moses.*?}} but didn't actually check after to make sure it actually ''did'' orphan it, which meant it missed {{tlc|Template:Moses}}. Apologies for the hassle. Primefac (talk) 09:27, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
:Yeah, that's a strange template transclusion. I can see how you missed it. I figured it would be something odd, because templates almost never show up on Wikipedia:Database reports/Transclusions of non-existent templates ↗ after TFDs. No big deal. Thanks for mopping! – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:39, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

GOCE script trouble (again)



Sorry to bother you, but the script is hanging up on {{u|Itcouldbepossible}} (57 articles) and I don't know why; I removed a stray space from D4vd ↗, but can't find anything else. Three of their articles have since been deleted; would that be a factor? Thanks for any help. In solidarity ↗, '''''<span style="color:navy">Mini</span>''''''''''<span style="color:#8B4513">apolis</span>''''' 21:40, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
:I don't think the script knows or cares about deleted articles. It's been a long time since I have been able to run the script, but I recall a few tricks. I copied their list into a text editor and inspected it, and I don't see anything that catches my eye. Have you tried moving Itcouldbepossible's article list to the very end of the text input file? You could at least get output for everyone else, IIRC, and do that editor's counts using a spreadsheet or other means. Also, if you are handy a text editor, try replacing every article name with "XXX". Let me know if you would like me to calculate the table output for that editor; I am very handy with a text editor and a spreadsheet. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:56, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
::Many thanks for your prompt advice, and I was able to get everyone else's table output by moving Itcouldbepossible's article list to the end. If you could calculate that editor's output, that would be great; I'm always learning new stuff, but you're more knowledgeable than I am and we should get the barnstars out in a reasonable length of time. I wonder if the number of articles is an issue. Pinging {{ping|Dhtwiki}}, who also hand-calculates this stuff. Thanks! In solidarity ↗, '''''<span style="color:navy">Mini</span>''''''''''<span style="color:#8B4513">apolis</span>''''' 23:09, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
:::Itcouldbepossible's entry should look like this:
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::::| Itcouldbepossible (talk)
::::| 151,481
::::| 75,740.5
::::| 0
::::| 227,221.5
::::| 127,221.5
::::| 57
::::| 33
::::| 35,429
::::| 16
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:::Dhtwiki (talk) 00:10, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
:@Miniapolis @Dhtwiki Are my edits creating a problem, sir and madam? If so, then I would like to apologize! I know my massive submission list for this drive is a huge wall of text, and I am sorry if having so many entries is breaking the barnstar script or making things difficult to process. If it helps get things working again, please feel free to just ignore the three deleted articles I copyedited from the GOCE/R page. They ended up getting deleted at AfD over notability concerns anyway, and I honestly don't mind at all if you deduct those word counts from my total to keep the script from timing out or breaking. <b style="background:#bf4949;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#fffb8c;">Itcouldbepossible</b> <sup>Talk</sup> 00:23, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
::No worries. We have manual workarounds when our (somewhat fussy) script doesn't work for one editor's article list. Thanks for the copy edits! – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:38, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
:::I wanted to let everyone know, I've put together a fair few fixes for the old GOCE script and have gone ahead and generated the table for the May drive. You can find it here. I had a bit of a dig through the talk page archives and managed to track down an older version of the script. I've given it a thorough redesign and sorted out the bugs, mainly by adding robust regex handling to automatically catch those tricky edge cases that we previously had to fix manually. I haven't popped the new table onto the main barnstar page just yet, as I wanted to hold off and get the nod from the senior guild coordinators first. Please do have a look at the generated table when you have a spare moment, and let me know if anything needs tweaking. <b style="background:#bf4949;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#fffb8c;">Itcouldbepossible</b> <sup>Talk</sup> 01:46, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
::::Thanks all; I'll add Itcouldbepossible's entry to my output file with the totals and post it tomorrow. The GOCE script links to talk pages (very important when we're giving out the barnstars), and clearly distinguishes which rollover words to use and when. {{u|Itcouldbepossible}}, could you email your script to {{u|Dhtwiki}} or one of the other coords? I wonder if your entry may have had a non-printing character; Jonesey discovered one in another head-scratcher a while back, but I can't see them in Notepad. In solidarity ↗, '''''<span style="color:navy">Mini</span>''''''''''<span style="color:#8B4513">apolis</span>''''' 02:38, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::@Miniapolis I am working on certain small fixes at this moment. I will email the same once I am done making the changes. <b style="background:#bf4949;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#fffb8c;">Itcouldbepossible</b> <sup>Talk</sup> 03:00, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
::::Thank you. You apparently came up with your script remarkably quickly. We don't include entries where the editors haven't done any work and thus haven't earned a barnstar; those possibly have in the past been manually edited out before the script is run. However, I question some of your numbers. For example, my 50% bonus should be 35,928 x .5 = 17,964, not 17,961; and your bonus should be (151,481 - 144) x .5 = 75,668.5, not 75,655. Dhtwiki (talk) 02:44, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::@DhtwikiThe issue came down to a rounding error that was slowly leaking half-points. The script calculates the 50% bonus line-by-line for every single article you logged. Because it was told to only output whole numbers, whenever it halved an odd-numbered word count (like your 10,561 words for Hell's Kitchen), it simply chopped off the .5 right then and there. Since you had exactly six articles with an odd number of words, the script ended up dropping exactly three points from your total. The exact same thing happened to me where I lost about thirteen points across my odd numbered entries. I have patched the script so it now matches our way of calculating things. Instead of applying the multiplier per article, it now tallies up all the bonus-eligible words into one aggregate total first, and only applies the 50% multiplier right at the very end. This completely stops any of those fractions from slipping through the cracks. <b style="background:#bf4949;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#fffb8c;">Itcouldbepossible</b> <sup>Talk</sup> 02:59, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::Please go through the modified version and let me know if the table should look somewhat like this. <b style="background:#bf4949;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#fffb8c;">Itcouldbepossible</b> <sup>Talk</sup> 03:09, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::It now looks good to me, especially with your 27 odd-word-count articles comporting with your number being off. I would put "n/a", instead of "0", where there is no applicable grand total. Otherwise, I can't think of anything more, other than marking Miniapolis's barnstars as not needing to be handed out (<nowiki>{{y}}</nowiki>). What language is your script in, and would you be willing to share it? The current script is not one that I can run on my iMac, and I have not gotten around to fashioning one of my own. Dhtwiki (talk) 04:39, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::{{done}} Script now uses "n/a" instead of "0". <b style="background:#bf4949;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#fffb8c;">Itcouldbepossible</b> <sup>Talk</sup> 04:48, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::@Dhtwiki The script has been written, or perhaps more accurately, ''rewritten'', from an older version I happened to come across while digging through some archived talk page discussions. As it turns out, the trail led back to the very script you had in your very own userspace! The current version is written in Python ↗ 3.14, and from the little research I've done so far, it appears that iMac should support that version of Python without issue. I'd be more than happy to share the modified script, but I am yet to ascertain the means of sharing the same. <b style="background:#bf4949;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#fffb8c;">Itcouldbepossible</b> <sup>Talk</sup> 04:53, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, Python is what I thought I would write my script in and I do have both the old script and a non-working attempt in Python in my userspace. If you can point to where in your userspace your script resides, then I would make a copy of it that I could document and edit. It would be wonderful to have something as a backup to Miniapolis's having to run the old script or my laborious hand calculations. Dhtwiki (talk) 05:15, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::@Dhtwiki This should be working fine. User:Itcouldbepossible/GOCE-script <b style="background:#bf4949;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#fffb8c;">Itcouldbepossible</b> <sup>Talk</sup> 06:08, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::Excellent. Thank you so much. Dhtwiki (talk) 06:24, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::PS. My home for the GOCE scripts is here, in case anyone else is interested. Dhtwiki (talk) 06:27, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::Thanks, {{u|Dhtwiki}}; that page has {{u|Torchiest}}'s original instructions (Attachment #1), which I'd lost{{snd}}Jonesey's later instructions flesh them out. I copypasted your table syntax for Itcouldbepossible to the bottom of my output-file table and pasted it on the barnstar page ↗, but the drive totals didn't generate for some reason and I copypasted your Totals line. Since I'm barely keeping my head above water with this (not a programmer), it's better for the GOCE if more than one person can do this. In solidarity ↗, '''''<span style="color:navy">Mini</span>''''''''''<span style="color:#8B4513">apolis</span>''''' 13:50, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::@Miniapolis {{done}} I have fixed the issue. In the older versions of the script, those columns were hardcoded to print "0", which I recently updated to print "n/a". The script was never actually told to calculate the math for those specific columns. <b style="background:#bf4949;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#fffb8c;">Itcouldbepossible</b> <sup>Talk</sup> 15:41, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::I have updated ↗ the code accordingly. <b style="background:#bf4949;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#fffb8c;">Itcouldbepossible</b> <sup>Talk</sup> 15:43, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
:@Miniapolis
:The issue as I found out was not related to me (perhaps!).
:I thought I'd share a quick rundown of why the old scoring script was causing so many headaches and how the new version sorts things out a bit. The old script basically had zero fault tolerance. The biggest flaw I noticed in it was how it searched for word counts. It would blindly grab whatever text was inside the very first set of parentheses it saw on a line. So, if someone logged an article like Hell's Kitchen (American TV series) season 12 with a word count of (10,561), the script grabbed the words "American TV series", tried to do maths on them, and immediately suffered a fatal crash. In the new script I fixed it by using regular expressions to scan the whole line and extract only the final set of brackets containing the actual numbers only. Another massive issue was with the punctuation. The old code simply couldn't cope with commas or tildes inside the numbers. If someone logged a cleanly formatted count like 35,928 or an estimate like ~20,000 (as was the case in the entries made by User:Lfstevens), the script would completely choke. Even worse, it had a hard coded technical limit, meaning if someone copyedited a massive article with more than 32,767 words, the script literally couldn't count that high and would trigger an overflow error. The new version, however, automatically purges commas before doing the maths and ignores all extra symbols. It has even happened in the past where participants often set up their sections early, leaving blank templates with empty brackets to fill in later. The old script would have either crashed trying to read these empty placeholders or would have forced a manual deletion of every single blank line before running the tool. The new code handles all of this automatically and skips over any empty placeholders without breaking the original calculations. <b style="background:#bf4949;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#fffb8c;">Itcouldbepossible</b> <sup>Talk</sup> 05:03, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
::Thanks, {{u|Itcouldbepossible}}. When Torchiest wrote the script generating a barnstar table (no need for a leaderboard script), the drives were smaller but hand-calculating was becoming a problem; the other coords and I hand-edit the input file before running Torchiest's script. Can you generate a barnstar table with your script which removes the half-words and retains the header bolding? In solidarity ↗, '''''<span style="color:navy">Mini</span>''''''''''<span style="color:#8B4513">apolis</span>''''' 13:50, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
:::@Miniapolis Can you please clarify what you mean by ''script which removes the half-words and retains the header bolding''? Did I misinterpret Dhtwiki when they told me about decimals in the word count, or am I misinterpreting you? <b style="background:#bf4949;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#fffb8c;">Itcouldbepossible</b> <sup>Talk</sup> 15:34, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
::::You mentioned above that you had fixed the half-word issue, but User:Itcouldbepossible/May-GOCE has the decimals and no "USE/DO NOT USE THIS NUMBER FOR JULY" emphasis; the latter minimizes confusion when editors sign up for the next drive. I checked your entry in Notepad++ for stray non-printing characters; there are none, so the issue may be the size of the entry itself. In solidarity ↗, '''''<span style="color:navy">Mini</span>''''''''''<span style="color:#8B4513">apolis</span>''''' 17:00, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::@Miniapolis I think I’m still misunderstanding something here. In an earlier reply, Dhtwiki explained the calculations to me, including how bonus points are handled for odd-numbered words. I also checked some of the previous barnstar pages and noticed that the Bonus Total and other columns contained decimal values there as well, which is why I assumed the current output was correct. Could you point out where I’m going wrong or what I may have misunderstood? As for the column headings, I believe they would need to be adjusted manually after the table is generated. I don’t think it’s possible to generate those headings dynamically in the current setup. One possible work-around would be to have the script detect the month in which it is run and automatically display the previous month in the heading, since the script is generally expected to be run only after a drive has concluded and the next month has begun. Let me know if you would like me to go ahead with that optimization. <b style="background:#bf4949;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#fffb8c;">Itcouldbepossible</b> <sup>Talk</sup> 14:01, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
{{od2}}{{u|Dhtwiki}}, as lead coordinator, makes those decisions{{snd}}not me. I'm a bit taken aback that you've come in from left field and kinda commandeered the drive in particular and the GOCE in general. I've seen this kind of behavior before, and it tends to be short-lived (and detrimental to the guild, which IMO benefits the encyclopedia). I've noticed that Dhtwiki and {{u|Jonesey95}} (whose TP we seem to have hijacked :-) have taken a step back, and I have other things to do too. It wasn't good that running the script was entrusted to me; I found a problem with one entry, and asked for help. The script can be difficult, but I'm loath to change something that's been generally reliable transportation on the basis of one person new to the GOCE and its recordkeeping. Whatever we decide to do, more than one person has to be able to do. In solidarity ↗, '''''<span style="color:navy">Mini</span>''''''''''<span style="color:#8B4513">apolis</span>''''' 20:28, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

:@Miniapolis I think there's been a bit of a misunderstanding here, so I will just clear the air. I only stepped in to help out of genuine concern because, at the very beginning, it really seemed like my massive list of entries was the exact thing causing the script to crash and hold up the barnstar distribution of the drive. Since I know a bit of coding, I just wanted to fix the bottleneck. It's a completely different story that later on we found out other things were breaking it too, like Lfstevens' entry and some other older bugs in the code, but yeah, that's the only reason I wanted to step in. It was never my intention to jump in from nowhere and take up the administrative side without permission. About the sudden enthusiasm and then stepping back, well, I've actually been on this project for around 5 years or so, but I was inactive for almost two years. Since it's my summer vacation right now, I could put in a lot of wiki time and edit a ton. But again, as things reopen I might not be able to put in as much time as I am right now, so you're definitely not wrong about that! Now on the math side, just to reiterate one point, I am keeping the calculation of the decimal points intact because that's exactly as per the latest instructions given by Dhtwiki, and it also matches what I saw looking back at the old drives. In the future if it is so required that rounding off needs to be done, then I will add that on request. At the end of the day, it's totally a personal wish. If you want to use my python script, you can use it, or you can just go back to the old methods and use the original script. I just stepped in to help fix what I thought was my mess! <b style="background:#bf4949;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#fffb8c;">Itcouldbepossible</b> <sup>Talk</sup> 13:56, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

::I just want to say that I appreciate the new script, which seems to work well and is in a language that should run under just about any operating system, give the popularity of Python, unlike Torchiest's script, which runs under Windows, not but MacOS. I might eventually master enough of the Python script's workings to make modifications, such as having it calculate blitz barnstars or the drive leaderboard itself. Of course, no script will work unless the drive page is audited for malformed entries and the like. As I never really got my mind around what Torchiest's script was doing, I can't be of much use in diagnosing its hiccups. Also, thanks for the titanic amount of copy editing that you did recently. Dhtwiki (talk) 22:45, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
:::{{u|Itcouldbepossible}} and {{u|Dhtwiki}}, thanks for your clarifications. I'm glad I'm no longer the only one who can generate a barnstar table with a script, although I think we're doing Torchiest a disservice (hence my GOCE backstory earlier). Jonesey, many thanks for the use of your TP :-). In solidarity ↗, '''''<span style="color:navy">Mini</span>''''''''''<span style="color:#8B4513">apolis</span>''''' 23:18, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
::::I don't want to do disservice to the old script or our ability to rely on you to run it and the number of times that you have done so through the years. However, there's an advantage in having more than one script, in more than one scripting language, and one that is better documented than either of these scripts currently are. Ideally, that should allow more than one coordinator to efficiently calculate drive barnstars (the blitz barnstars, which I usually calculate manually, are much less complicated, but even there a script could be applied, someday). Dhtwiki (talk) 00:02, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
:::@Dhtwiki Thanks again Dhtwiki! Well, I personally feel that Python is just way more versatile since it can run on literally any operating system, whether you're on a Mac or Windows, so nobody gets locked out of using it. Now I have something for everyone. To make sure the script us actually useful for the team, I'll have decided to put together some detailed documentation over in my userspace soon. I'll write out exactly how to run the script step-by-step so that any of the coordinators can just pick it up and calculate the tables without having to guess how it works. Hopefully, having that ready to go takes a bit of the pressure off you and as well as Miniapolis! <b style="background:#bf4949;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#fffb8c;">Itcouldbepossible</b> <sup>Talk</sup> 02:19, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
{{od2}}{{u|Dhtwiki}}, I never liked being relied on to run the script and couldn't agree more that several coordinators (ideally all, but ... ) should be able to run whatever script we end up using. We need a script of some kind for the drives because of the number of participants and the selective 50-percent-bonus articles. In solidarity ↗, '''''<span style="color:navy">Mini</span>''''''''''<span style="color:#8B4513">apolis</span>''''' 02:06, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

:@Miniapolis Just touching on your point about the selective 50-percent-bonus articles. Well, honestly you don't need to worry about that part at all anymore. The script I've managed to rebuild is actually designed to handle all of that automatically. It specifically hunts down those <code>*O</code> and <code>*R</code> markers and calculates the extra bonus points on its own, so it takes that manual headache completely out of the calculation. As I already said above, to make sure everything is easy to follow, I'll be putting up a detailed documentation under my userspace soon. Hopefully, having that guide will clear up any lingering confusion, and ensure that any coordinator can jump in and run the numbers whenever they need to! <b style="background:#bf4949;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;color:#fffb8c;">Itcouldbepossible</b> <sup>Talk</sup> 02:23, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
::Thanks; the lead coordinator determines which script we use. Torchiest's script does almost everything yours does; its main Achilles' heel seems to be that it didn't anticipate very large entries. In solidarity ↗, '''''<span style="color:navy">Mini</span>''''''''''<span style="color:#8B4513">apolis</span>''''' 13:22, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

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Template talk:Infobox book series ↗ question



Hello,

I see you're reasonably active on Infobox book series, and I had a question on it you might be able to answer. Currently in a featured list review, and one comment is that the image in the infobox needs alt-text. Unlike other templates, I don't see a field for this on that one. Is there a way to add one, or could one be added? Thanks! Already commented on the template talk page but thought I'd ping you directly. <span style="font-family:Blackadder ITC; color:DimGray">GeogSage</span> <sup> (<span style="font-family:Blackadder ITC; color:DimGray">⚔Chat?⚔</span>) </sup> 18:22, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
:{{tpw}} {{replyto|GeogSage}} I've replied at Template talk:Infobox book series#Adding alt text to images ↗. --<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 22:45, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
::Thanks {{U|Redrose64}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:02, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors – June 2026 Newsletter



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'''Election news:''' Nominations for the '''mid-year coordinator election''' ↗ ends at 23:59 on 15 June. Voting will last from 00:00 on 16 June to 23:59 on 30 June. Results will be announced on the election page.

'''April Blitz:''' 18 of the 21 editors who signed up for the '''April 2026 Copy Editing Blitz''' ↗ copy edited 122,993 words in 56 articles. Barnstars awarded are '''here''' ↗.

'''May Drive:''' 34 of the 66 editors who signed up for the May 2026 Backlog Elimination Drive ↗ copy edited 543,972 words in 211 articles. Barnstars awarded are '''here''' ↗.

'''June Blitz:''' Our '''June 2026 Copy Editing Blitz''' ↗ will start on 14 June and finish on 30 June. Barnstars awarded will be posted '''here''' ↗.

'''Progress report:''' As of 22:40, 11 June 2025 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have completed 132 requests since 1 January, and the backlog stands at 1,691 articles.

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Template:Infobox Jewish leader



Can you shed some light on Template:Infobox Jewish leader ↗? This is 100% identical to {{tl|Infobox religious biography}} the the sole exception that it automatically sets {{para|religion|Judaism ↗}}. Having a whole separate template and documentation to maintain just to avoid having to specify the religion seems unnecessary. I see that there was already a TFD last year ↗ that resulted in a merge, but then you made it a wrapper ↗ instead of actually merging... Was there some other discussion that changed the result?

For context, I'm doing a cleanup of {{tl|Infobox religious biography}} and since Module:Template wrapper ↗ doesn't pass empty parameters up the chain, I'm not getting the necessary preview warnings for {{tl|Infobox Jewish leader}} which is why I bring this up. '''<span style="color:#00d5ff !important">Zack</span><span style="color:#007F94 !important">mann</span>''' (<sup>Talk to me ↗</sup>/<sub><span style="color:orange !important">What I been doing</span> ↗</sub>) 21:29, 13 June 2026 (UTC)
:It seemed like the most effective way to accomplish the merge outcome. Can you provide an example of a transclusion or test case that is broken? If empty parameters need to be passed for some reason (that I can't think of), maybe the template wrapper module can be tweaked to allow that to happen.
:Also, if you want to do a cleanup of {{tl|Infobox Jewish leader}}, you can add a deprecated parameter or unknown parameter check to that template to generate error messages. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:07, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
::For example if you preview Zecharias Frankel ↗ you will see there are no preview warnings, but if you change the Infobox type to {{tl|Infobox religious biography}} you will see the 8 invalid parameters. In the long run I guess not a big issue, but I will also note this is the only Infobox in {{cl|Category:Templates calling Infobox religious biography}}. Just seems like if the TFD decision was "merge" it should be merged, not converted to a wrapper. However, FAR from the hill I want to die on today. '''<span style="color:#00d5ff !important">Zack</span><span style="color:#007F94 !important">mann</span>''' (<sup>Talk to me ↗</sup>/<sub><span style="color:orange !important">What I been doing</span> ↗</sub>) 16:20, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
:::That page is not using any unsupported parameters, so no error message should be shown. As far as I can tell, the deprecated parameters that are present are not populated, so they shouldn't show an error message either. I guess I don't understand what you are trying to fix. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:31, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
:I agree with Zackmann here. A merge result is not a wrapper. If a wrapper was wanted, it should have been specially stated. Gonnym (talk) 16:51, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
::I'm not sure what you are agreeing with, but I have no objections to anyone changing the template, as long as it does not become an independent template again. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:31, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
:::This is a solution without a problem! Jonesey I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something regarding why you chose to do a wrapper vs a straight merge. Since you have no objections I will take care of it. As I said, just wanted to make sure you didn't have an issue with doing the straight merge. I was worried there had been a discussion somewhere that I couldn't find where the decision was made to NOT merge, but to do a wrapper. That was my only question here. '''<span style="color:#00d5ff !important">Zack</span><span style="color:#007F94 !important">mann</span>''' (<sup>Talk to me ↗</sup>/<sub><span style="color:orange !important">What I been doing</span> ↗</sub>) 18:39, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

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Help required for infobox creation



Hi Jonesey,
Could I enlist your help in creating a new infobox that I have just created? As you can see here ↗, it's based on the Event infobox. I managed to get so far, but now I'm a little stuck, not knowing how to put it in the appropriate categories. Any assistance wouldl be much appreciated. Best, <small><span style="background-color:#ffffff;border: 1px solid;">'''<span style="color:#000000; background-color:#EEE8AA">&nbsp;Ohc&nbsp;</span>'''</span></small><sup>''revolution of our times''</sup> 17:29, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
:It looks like you did a good job so far. I created the tracking categories and tidied up some misguided parameter names that were probably copied over from an infobox that made bad choices that we have had to live with ("blank" instead of "custom", and numbering that only programmers use). I am confused by the non-standard parameter name {{para|institution:retail%_}}, which should probably be fixed before going live. That parameter description in the documentation says something about percentages, but no percent sign is displayed. Using a colon, a % symbol, and an underscore in a parameter name is non-standard and inadvisable. I might call it something like {{para|institution_retail_ratio}} and then give two or three examples in the documentation. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:52, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
::Many thanks for all your work on this. Indeed, you correctly guessed what I had intended the {{para|institution:retail%}} to show. I will add notes in the doc accordingly. <small><span style="background-color:#ffffff;border: 1px solid;">'''<span style="color:#000000; background-color:#EEE8AA">&nbsp;Ohc&nbsp;</span>'''</span></small><sup>''revolution of our times''</sup> 11:29, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Infobox settlement



Should I continue to ping you on the discussion on TM:Infobox settlement ↗? I ''really'' value your input, but don't want to continue to bug ya if you are over this discussion. :-\ --'''<span style="color:#00d5ff !important">Zack</span><span style="color:#007F94 !important">mann</span>''' (<sup>Talk to me ↗</sup>/<sub><span style="color:orange !important">What I been doing</span> ↗</sub>) 05:03, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
:I don't have the energy for complex discussions every day, given IRL stuff. I contribute when I can. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:10, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
::Totally understand! Really value your input so chime in when you can. '''<span style="color:#00d5ff !important">Zack</span><span style="color:#007F94 !important">mann</span>''' (<sup>Talk to me ↗</sup>/<sub><span style="color:orange !important">What I been doing</span> ↗</sub>) 16:20, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

AI



Do not remove AI tags, namely Special:Diff/1340129038 ↗, without fixing the issue.

Typos in an edit summary are also not a reason to remove legitimate edits. God forbid someone makes a typo; fortunately typos are not against guidelines, whereas AI-generated edits are ↗. Gnomingstuff (talk) 13:03, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Help required



We have the template here:

Template:list:Latin script letters/kix

And this-

Appendix:Latin script letters/kix

Please delete the ones that is not needed. Thanks ExfactoLexander (talk) 16:43, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
:There is no page at :Template:list:Latin script letters/kix ↗ or at :Appendix:Latin script letters/kix ↗. Please use square brackets and copy-paste to link to pages, as shown in this reply. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:52, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
::wikt:Template:list:Latin script letters/kix ↗? Don't know about the other.
::—Trappist the monk (talk) 16:56, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
:::Please check these three
:::::wikt:Template:list:Latin script letters/kix ↗
:::::wikt:Template:Kix-alphabet ↗
:::::wikt:Appendix:Latin script letters/kix ↗
:::ExfactoLexander (talk) 17:09, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::The middle one does not exist, and the third one does not have any similar pages. I don't know what you're trying to do, and I have very little experience with Wiktionary. If you need help on Wiktionary, it looks like wikt:Wiktionary:Information desk ↗ might be a good place to ask for it. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:11, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
::::::Sorry. The middle one is Wikipedia Template I created, not knowing the purpose. ExfactoLexander (talk) 17:16, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
:::::::OK. I have moved it to User:ExfactoLexander/Kix-alphabet in case you want to reference its content in the future. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:18, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

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Engvar redirects



Hi @Jonesey95, I'm not entirely sure what, if anything, should be done about this. But a user has recreated ↗ several templates which were deleted by TfD and made them into redirects to flexible templates, including ones with bizarre names like Template:En-029. They have been categorised so that they appear in the lists of Engvar templates e.g. Use Carribbean English is once again listed at Template:Use American English#See also ↗. I just wanted to put it on radar because it's clearly an attempt to resurrect what has already been deleted by recent consensus. Dgp4004 (talk) 16:12, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
:Feel free to take a look at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion ↗. I participate in WP:TFD ↗, but not very often at RFD. I have removed the redirects from the Use X English template, since it implies that they are templates, but those templates were deleted because those variants of English could not be shown to have rules for written prose. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:48, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
::{{U|Dgp4004}}: Also see Template talk:Use English variant ↗, discussion in progress. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:57, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
:::Thank you. I have nominated them at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 June 26 ↗. I was also minded to nominate the below, but I am unsure how to nominate multiple redirects in the same discussion without spamming the page:
:::*{{tl|Belizean English}}
:::*{{tl|Belize English}}
:::*{{tl|Use BzE}}
:::*{{tl|BzE}}
:::*{{tl|BZE}}
:::*{{tl|Use Belizean}}
:::*{{tl|BLZ English}}
:::*{{tl|BZE English}}
:::*{{tl|BZ English}}
:::*{{tl|En-029}}
:::*{{tl|En-BZ}}
:::and
:::*{{tl|Caribbean English}}
:::*{{tl|Use CarE}}
:::*{{tl|CarE}}
:::*{{tl|CSE}}
:::*{{tl|Standard Caribbean English}}
:::*{{tl|Caribbean Standard English}}
:::*{{tl|Use Caribbean}}
:::Dgp4004 (talk) 12:18, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
::::I use Twinkle, which automatically notifies the creator and creates a new section on the RFD page. After that new section is created, I merge it like this ↗. If you are not using Twinkle, just notify the creator that you are nominating the list above, copy and paste the RFD notice from Template:Use Belizean English ↗ to the other pages, and then use the instructions for multiple nominations on the RFD page, under "Repeat line 2 for N number of redirects". They are a little technical, but you can probably get it. Let me know if you need help. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:51, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

Invoke statements and stripped lists



Hello,

Would you happen to know why the include/noincludes in the invoke clause (on line 2) are creating a stripped <nowiki></li></nowiki> error on these 9 Wikiproject pages ↗? I briefly considered if it were the lack of a vertical bar between the limit=3 and the (second) list parameter, but that doesn't clear the error or breaks the preview (depending on where between them you place it). I also wondered if the second list was an issue of duplicate parameters, but not seeing removal of that second list as a solution. I'm tempted to outright remove the include/noincludes since that appears to display the same way and clears the error, but since I don't quite know what function the invoke is even serving here, I figured I should ask for a second opinion before doing that.

And on a similar note, do you know why or how to fix the abbr error with the mouse excerpt at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Portals/Newsletter_archive#Portals_WikiProject_update_#009,_15_June_2018 ↗? The mouse slide is decomposing the {{tl|pl}} template causing a stripped abbr error on 64 pages. The inner "Transclude lead excerpt" template behaves, but the invoke statement of <code><nowiki>{{#invoke:String|replace|{{Transclude lead excerpt|paragraphs=1-3|files=1-2|more=|Mouse}}|%c|<br>||false}}</nowiki></code> changes that.

And while I'm here, do you see anything out of place with the SMILES section (under {{para|data13}}) on User:CFCF/Drug simple that would be causing the four errors on User:CFCF/Drug test of a missing/stripped/misnested ul/li/div combo? I know for certain that it's the SMILES parameter as the error goes away if the {{para|SMILES}} parameter is completely removed (not emptied, but removed outright), and the error remains if SMILES is the only parameter in the entire infobox on Drug test page.

Thanks for any insight, Zinnober9 (talk) 02:17, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
:Those stripped /li tags are strange. They seem to pop up sometimes and not other times. This change seems to do the trick ↗ and probably doesn't break anything. It shows up to 300 articles on the page itself, but keeps the limit of 3 when the page is transcluded. There are similar pages here ↗. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:01, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
::I fixed the mouse ↗ slide by adding Template:plural abbr ↗ to the list of templates excluded from these sorts of excerpts. That was an obscure one. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:13, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
:::As for CFCF, the syntax highlighter gadget helped me identify a /div tag ↗ that was outside of an #if statement value when it should have been inside. The closing braces should have been highlighted yellow, but they were pink, which gave me a clue where something was wrong. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:17, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
::::Great, thank you so much! I was clearing li errors by namespace, and hadn't looked at user space yet for the first issue. Planning on clearing the remainder of li over the next few days. I wasn't going to think of that one for the mouse. Nice solution. CFCF, bah. I looked at it, figured it was exactly that sort of misnested situation and still didn't spot it. I'm going to blame all the memorizing brackets for missing that one... Haven't found the gadget to play nicely with the syntax toggle on the editor, so have left the gadget off for now. Will give it another go though. Zinnober9 (talk) 13:26, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

Speedy deletion ↗ nomination of :Category:Articles containing Kutenai-language text ↗


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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may '''contest the nomination''' by visiting the page ↗ and removing the speedy deletion tag. <!-- Template:Db-catempty-notice --> <!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">'''''L'''''iz</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">'''''Read!''''' ↗ '''''Talk!'''''</sup> 17:18, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
:Hmm, I wonder why the new category was created instead of just moving the existing category. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:06, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Auto archiving notice/Archive ↗ CSD



Hi! You tagged this page and Template:Auto archiving notice/Archive Index ↗ for deletion as unused. Given that the pages warn you not to delete them for technical reasons, could you point me at what's changed recently so that theses pages are no longer needed? <span style="color:#1C7E85"><b>Rusalkii</b></span> (talk) 00:13, 4 July 2026 (UTC)
:Template:Auto archiving notice/doc ↗ was merged to Template:Talk header/doc ↗, so the notice on the page no longer applies. The page has no incoming links. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:27, 4 July 2026 (UTC)
::Got it, deleted. <span style="color:#1C7E85"><b>Rusalkii</b></span> (talk) 02:40, 4 July 2026 (UTC)

Speedy deletion ↗ nomination of :Category:Hatnotes with links to nonexistent pages ↗


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Chimpanzee cites



Hello. Would you be able to cleanup the cites for chimpanzee. See also Noleander's comments at the peer review ↗. LittleJerry (talk) 15:37, 8 July 2026 (UTC)
:{{done}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:28, 8 July 2026 (UTC)

Lint errors



Hello Jonesey!

You've helped me a lot in the past to fix linter errors in my homewiki and the last time we talked we had only 1 category of errors to clean up. Recently, with all AI developments, I was able to build a supervised automatized pipeline and unleash Claude AI on that remaining category, thus greatly accelerating the clean up process. I'm happy to write down that finally, for the first time since creation, we have 0 errors!

Well, not really, since ''Duplicate IDs'' and ''Background color inline style rule'' exists without a corresponding text color errors still remain, quite a lot actually. Now obviously this begs the question: What is expected to be done with those kinds of errors? Am I to understand that they will be fixed further upstream and those no action ''at all'' is required by me for any of the cases? Is that assumption completely wrong? Something in-between? I've read a lot around about them, even asking different AIs, but they give no definitive answers about what to expect and how to handle them. - Klein Muçi (talk) 09:47, 10 July 2026 (UTC)
:Congratulations!
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:At en.WP, most of the duplicate ID errors are caused by our citation templates, and there is no movement to fix them. I have not seen any movement to fix these errors at all on this Wikipedia.
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:The background color errors sometimes indicate a problem with how a page will look in dark mode. I recommend starting with templates. Find a page that uses the template, and switch to Vector 2022's dark mode to see if the template displays poorly. If so, figure out how to add a "color:" declaration where needed so that both light mode and dark mode work properly. I am not an expert at choosing these color options, but I have a set of notes for my use that I will copy below. One of these options usually works, but I don't always know which one it will be until I try them. There are definitely more sophisticated ways to fix the problems.
:<syntaxhighlight lang=css>Colors in Wikipedia:
- default background color: #F8F9FA
- default background color in dark mode: #202122

Dark mode color fix: (this often makes explicitly chosen bg colors go away, so it's not great)
background-color: var(--background-color-base,#CEE0F2);

Default color:
color:var(--color-base,#202122);

To force black:
color:var(--color-base-fixed,#202122);

To force white:
color:var(--color-inverted-fixed,#ffffff);</syntaxhighlight>
:I hope that helps. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:59, 10 July 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you!
::So they are fixable on a wiki level, right? My main question is: Can I fix them as a wiki user if I so want or are they actually expected to be fixed on the actual Mediawiki software (like maybe Parsoid or even further upstream) with different PHP patches and I can't/shouldn't do much on the wiki level? This is the question that I don't see anywhere answered plainly. From your reply I kinda get that they are actually actionable from the normal/wiki admin user perspective. - Klein Muçi (talk) 16:30, 10 July 2026 (UTC)
:::The background colors are all fixable on your wiki. Some example edits: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Performance_key/styles.css&diff=prev&oldid=1317875264 ↗, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:EC_Judo_M73&diff=prev&oldid=1317813312 ↗, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:2014_ATP_Challenger_Tour&diff=prev&oldid=1317813185 ↗, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TC_stats_table_end3&diff=prev&oldid=1317782042 ↗, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Political_party_metadata&diff=prev&oldid=1339736941 ↗, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Scouting&diff=prev&oldid=1339736808 ↗, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Tasks-road&diff=prev&oldid=1339659498 ↗, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Twilight_to-do&diff=prev&oldid=1339659024 ↗, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:The_Volcanic_Barnstar&diff=prev&oldid=1339653548 ↗. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:13, 11 July 2026 (UTC)