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If you are taking requests (2025)
If there's an article you think I'd be interested in working on or an article you need help with, please drop the request here. Sariel Xilo (talk) 22:49, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
March
:Thanks for the welcome Sariel!
:I completely understand and I'll have those citations sorted in a jiffy. Apologies, I tend to follow the pattern. As there were no citations present and the provided information was very different than the source material, I figured I would just follow suit and adjust it to be in line with the actual rules.
:I'll go revert/update with appropriate citations and wording close as close to the source material in existing format.
:I appreciate you reaching out and please feel free to review my updates and provide feedback! Zanithar (talk) 07:51, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
Do you feel that the new changes are adequately sourced?https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paladin_%28Dungeons_%26_Dragons%29&diff=1278859156&oldid=1278717368 ↗ BOZ (talk) 04:21, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|BOZ|Zanithar}} I don't have access to the 3E/3.5 books to verify and stylistically, I think the citations should be on every line and not just at the colon symbol. I also think the lists under 3rd Edition & 5th Edition should be trimmed and summarized because it is drifting into WP:GAMECRUFT ↗ (#5 & #7) and we don't need a detailed guide (WP:NOTGUIDE ↗) on a single edition's Code of Conduct. Sariel Xilo (talk) 05:15, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
::At the end of the day, I did not put a code of conduct list there. I merely corrected an existing one that was very incorrect.
::Although it is slightly annoying from an effort perspective, I have no issue removing it completely.
::The actual source is a paragraph not a list. Again, i merely kept the original format. Zanithar (talk) 05:43, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
:::3rd edition:
:::https://anyflip.com/jeuoi/pnpx/basic
:::3.5 edition:
:::https://archive.org/details/players-handbook-v-3.5 Zanithar (talk) 05:54, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
April
One of the few remaining D&D fictional element articles; do you have any sources for Eilistraee ↗? BOZ (talk) 03:38, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
:Same for Tharizdun ↗. BOZ (talk) 10:11, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
::I checked on Tharizdun yesterday when the AfD hit my watchlist yesterday but I couldn't find anything via the Wikipedia Library. Just went through for Eilistraee, and I only found a dissertation that someone else mentioned. Sariel Xilo (talk)` Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:02, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
:https://archive.org/details/tsr09326for2drowoftheunderdark/mode/2up
:Page 21 Zanithar (talk) 10:16, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Zanithar}} Generally when fictional elements are going through the articles for deletion process ↗, the concern is that the article in question doesn't have enough secondary sources to meet the notability requirements ↗ for a standalone article. I've often had decent luck in finding sources & updating articles during AfD to meet the WP:HEY ↗ standard; however, unfortunately, I'm not finding any academic sources for the two fictional gods BOZ mentioned above. Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:10, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
I figure there is a good chance you might have some interest in Matt Collville ↗. :) BOZ (talk) 02:49, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
:Just did some cleanup on that one but I couldn't find any non-primary sources for his work before his time at Turtle Rock Studios. Probably could also use something about how his YouTube platform led to MCDM. Sariel Xilo (talk) 17:51, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
May
They are not in any immediate danger at the moment, but just wondering if you've got anything more to improve Moradin ↗ or Bahamut ↗? :) BOZ (talk) 05:53, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
:I went through some of the academic databases via the Wiki Library & nothing popped unfortunately. Sariel Xilo (talk) 20:26, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
::OK, thanks for checking! BOZ (talk) 12:37, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
Do you see anything for Vincent Dutrait ↗? BOZ (talk) 12:37, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
June
{{ping|BOZ}} If you have any suggestions tagged with {{tl|Unreferenced}} or {{tl|BLP unsourced}}, let me know since I'm participating in Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles/Backlog drives/June 2025 ↗. Thanks! Sariel Xilo (talk) 02:37, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
:OK, will take a look! Vincent Dutrait above has been sourced better, but it also wasn't June yet. :D I will check the various gaming WikiProject lists and see what there is. If drafts count, you could look at Draft:High & Low - Card Game ↗. BOZ (talk) 02:45, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
:Turns out... there are many. :o
:*https://bambots.brucemyers.com/cwb/bycat/Role-playing_games.html#Cites%20no%20sources
:*https://bambots.brucemyers.com/cwb/bycat/Dungeons_%26_Dragons.html#Cites%20no%20sources
:*https://bambots.brucemyers.com/cwb/bycat/Board_and_table_games.html#Cites%20no%20sources
:You could peruse those lists and/or I could pick out a certain number that you could take a look at BOZ (talk) 03:25, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
::Did not know about that tool! I'll check them out as a starting point. Thanks again! Sariel Xilo (talk) 03:34, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
:::Sounds good. Like I said about the draft above, if those count I can take a look and see if there are other unsourced drafts. If articles that were redirected due to being unsourced also count, I can look through my enormous deletion lists for those as well. :) BOZ (talk) 03:43, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
::::I think it is limited to mainspace articles with those two tags (basically a flip of the {{tl|Citation needed}} drive which was limited to that tag). Sariel Xilo (talk) 03:58, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
:::::I'm sure some of those are covered in Designers & Dragons ↗, and I'm confident that Atomic Sock Monkey Press ↗ is well-covered there at minimum. BOZ (talk) 04:23, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
:::::I don't know if they count because they have different sourcing tags, but Blades of the Tiger ↗ and Ken Frank ↗ (see talk page) are unsourced. BOZ (talk) 12:29, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
:I'm going to check Internet Archive in a little bit, but if I find anything for Free Parking ↗, I will let you know so you can take the credit. ;) BOZ (talk) 11:48, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
::What I found, if you can do anything with these:
::*https://archive.org/details/monopolycompanio0000orba/page/186/mode/2up?q=%22free+parking%22
::*https://archive.org/details/monopolycompanio00orba_0/page/186/mode/2up?q=%22free+parking%22
::*https://archive.org/details/monopoly0000orba/page/182/mode/2up?q=%22free+parking%22
::The false positives from the name definitely made it a challenge, so there is probably more out there that could potentially save it, but this should allow you to claim it for the challenge. :) Adding the name of the designer Charles Phillips or the slogan "Feed the Meter" helped weed out the false positives a little bit. BOZ (talk) 13:02, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
:List of Dungeons & Dragons 4th edition monsters ↗ exists once again. :) BOZ (talk) 04:24, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
May
I don't know if this one would be in your wheelhouse, but does Draft:Sundering Adventurer's Chronicle ↗ hold any interest for you? BOZ (talk) 17:16, 4 May 2026 (UTC)
:I took a look when red links started to popup to it but I don't think it is salvageable. 2 of the sources are just a recap of the Sundering event overview & 1 source is WP:FORBESCON ↗. Also, the structure felt AI generated. Sariel Xilo (talk) 19:03, 4 May 2026 (UTC)
June
If I were to restore Dragonborn https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dragonborn_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)&oldid=1360436435 ↗ would you have the sources to help improve it? BOZ (talk) 13:53, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
:Or how about the Goliath https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Goliath_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)&oldid=1362598393 ↗? BOZ (talk) 01:18, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
Miscellaneous Messages
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Hey!
Can you block those bad guys reverting my edits?
Reason: They keep thinking that the Baby Shark and PJ Masks should stop airing! LukeJolly3 (talk) 15:03, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|LukeJolly3}} I'm not an admin but you could make a report at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring ↗. I doubt it'll go well for you since you've been told repeatedly to stop your own edit war behavior; you must provide reliable sources ↗ & stop including original research ↗. Sariel Xilo (talk) 16:05, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
:: And resolved at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents ↗. Sariel Xilo (talk) 22:38, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
Veilguard
It seems like the article has stabilized. I'm recalling the RFC with a lot of different points, and I realize that it meant it was hard to track the feedback. Was there anything outstanding that needs further discussion? Shooterwalker (talk) 15:55, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Shooterwalker}} Sorry for the delay but wanted to think about this. I think the main feedback that came out of the RfC was broadly summary sentences are acceptable and while not automatically a SYNTH issue, should be reviewed & have sources. The other point that came up but was outside the scope of the RfC was that some editors think the Reception section is a too long. Veilguard's critical reception subsection is just over 1100 words while Inquisition's critical reception subsection is just over 800 words; Inquisition is a good article so maybe that length is a good target? I think what would help is splitting off some of the critical reception into a themes/analysis subsection; the video games MOS doesn't mention this specifically but I think the guidance from other media types could be used (MOS:FILMTHEMES ↗/MOS:TV#Themes and analysis ↗ & MOS:NOVELS#Major themes ↗). LGBTQ+ representation could be moved there (which would reduce the CR to just over 950 words) & maybe the paragraph on the game's companions; we would probably need to find sources about how ''Veilguard'' continues Dragon Age franchise themes such as including companions & LGBTQ+ representation (basically broader analysis than what is currently in the reception section). Thoughts? Sariel Xilo (talk) 17:54, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
::That sounds right to me. I could see discussion stalling about whether summary sentences are appropriate, but they are ordinary practice even at featured articles. There's always room to modify the sentence until it's uncontroversial, and even in some cases they can reference sources that comment on broad opinion. I'm guessing that at least got things unstuck, even if it didn't directly answer every question in the RFC.
::The length of the reception section is unrelated and not urgent. Three paragraphs is a good target, using Inquisition as a reference. That can be any order: "most positive", "less positive", "most critical"; or (in the case of Inquisition) "gameplay", "narrative", "world/levels". Those categories aren't prescriptive, and just examples of how to cover the reception of the entire game quickly, with the appropriate level of detail.
::''Veilguard'' just often fails to get to the point -- the product of an article that has been expanded one sentence at a time, over the course of weeks and months. Even just the opening paragraph about the critical reception could be two sentences: (1) It was well reviewed on metacritic and opencritic, and (2) it was review bombed but it wasn't representative.
::There are four paragraphs about story and character, and somehow I'm still left wondering about the game experience, like graphics, audio, gameplay, and so on. I understand this is a story-driven game, but it's still getting lost in the details. Individual characters can be covered at articles about the individual characters, or even a "list of characters in Veilguard" article. Character lists would be consistent with other games in the series, and the sources absolutely do support that as a separate article. This article needs to be summary style article about the ''game'', and reception should never be too far from talking about the game overall. Individual characters, subplots, and themes lose that context. Shooterwalker (talk) 14:16, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
::Giving some thought as to a manageable first step. Reading the reception section again, there is clearly enough material for an article about Taash ↗. I'm willing to bet there is enough material for at least a few other characters as well. Is that something you think you'd be willing to take on? Shooterwalker (talk) 22:00, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Shooterwalker}} While I enjoy editing character articles sometimes, I've held off because it seems like the space around Veilguard has become a minefield. If you draft anything, I would be happy to contribute (maybe with RefIdeas?) but I don't think I'm the person to take the lead; other editors don't seem to be taking my edits in this space in good faith & I don't want to get your efforts mired simply because I edited. It's unfortunate but I'm not really sure how else to handle it. Sariel Xilo (talk) 18:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
::::I understand how you feel. I have been shellshocked by bad faith editors in the past. The dust does eventually settle, and the bad faith is usually spotted for what it is. Focus on articles that bring you satisfaction in the meantime. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:13, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
:@Sariel Xilo @Shooterwalker It looks like the article has become unstable again. I just noticed your discussion here. I’ll leave it at the one revert for now, but the stable version should be discussed and resolved through consensus, or not? Simply removing content that was widely discussed and has remained in the article for months doesn’t seem appropriate to me. Vestigium Leonis (talk) 09:53, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Vestigium Leonis}} When I did the initial reversion (and the only revert I did), I thought it was simply a new editor getting started with maybe a focus on grammar or condensing without realizing they were removing the main subject in various headings. I have no idea why there was bunch of edit warring subsequently; I added a clearer explanation at Talk:Dragon Age: The Veilguard#Edit warring ↗ for my revert (I could have done a better edit summary!) but none of the editors who reverted have explained why they think the changes should stay... However, NutmegCoffeeTea has reported us as being SOCKs ↗ which I've called ↗ "{{xt|a bad faith report which is retaliatory in a nature}}". Sariel Xilo (talk) 17:55, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
:: And the investigation was closed ↗ due to "{{xt|Insufficient evidence}}" so I'm glad that didn't take long. I saw you changed your status to semi-retired because of some IP stalking; it totally sucks when things like that happen (I experienced a bit of that in February). I hope you'll consider returning after taking a break. Sariel Xilo (talk) 20:43, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
:::Yes, I’ve seen the investigation. Since it was closed so quickly, it’s probably for the best to just let it go and move on. About the rest: I’ve been extremely stressed in real life since April. That’s when I also mishandled the reverts and made some heated comments that don’t reflect how I normally act. Semi-active would probably be a better banner to put on my talk page for now, but I won't leave completely or anything like that. Same goes back to you, though. Don't let whatever is going on right now scare you away from editing things you like.
:::Anyway, I think it's best to keep the situation in the project discussion for now. The reverts / edit warring probably won’t stop unless this gets clarified. I still don’t understand why details like publisher info are so controversial to others, but I’m confident a solution will be reached on the project board. Vestigium Leonis (talk) 21:38, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
Kpop demon hunters soundtrack
Hey I made the soundtrack credit edits you undid—I worked on the album. The writer/producer credits in the edit you undid were correct. If IMDB isn’t reliable, you can check Apple Music or anywhere the songs are credited. Nowhere is it divided lyrics and music the way it’s listed now. Can you reinstate? Thanks! 2603:3027:102:5C00:C977:644E:8B64:F35F ↗ (talk) 16:35, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
:I'm not seeing anything at MOS:FILMMUSIC ↗ or Template:Track listing ↗ that indicates the format is incorrect. Looking at this PR piece by Netflix ↗, the credits of the original songs match what is in the article. If you have any reliable sources that the credits are incorrect, please respond over at Talk:KPop Demon Hunters#Soundtrack credits ↗. Additionally, if your IP keeps changing, it'll be easier to ping you directly if you WP:REGISTER ↗. Thanks! Sariel Xilo (talk) 16:48, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
::Ah great I put it in KPOP talk! You have to format it like the Trolls soundtrack otherwise it's crediting music and lyrics in a way that isn't accurate. Wikipedia's traditional track listing format doesn't provide for correct crediting so you have to edit/revise it. You can look at spotify credits, apple music credits, anywhere the credits exist it's not credited lyrics and music because that's wrong 2603:3027:102:5C00:81BC:DD9B:B219:2EED ↗ (talk) 16:57, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
Dragon Age Veilguard
Hi,
I've restored my edit on the page. The RfC conclusion was that "We are left, therefore, with a policy-based argument to include publisher expectations versus editors' opinions that they should be excluded. The former is sound; the latter must be discarded. I therefore find a consensus to '''include publisher expectations''' (option E, although the consensus does not extend so far as to entrench the specific wording)". Unfortunately the wording used as an example and then implemented ("''{{Green|Reaching 1.5 million players by year-end 2024, Veilguard outperformed Electronic Arts' previous single-player games but did not meet the publisher's expectations.}}"'') is a basic WP:SYNTH ↗ violation as while some sources raise that '''on launch day''' the game's Steam concurrent player numbers were higher than previous Bioware titles, this does not mean that it '''sold''' more than Bioware titles in the first two months of release and therefore "outperformed" EA's previous single-player games. Rambling Rambler (talk) 19:14, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Rambling Rambler}} I'm not going to edit war over this but wanted to flag that the RfC just ended in July 2025. Given the contentious history of that article's development (as seen by the multiple, drawn out RfCs), I would suggest starting a new discussion on the talk page rather than asserting that this is 100% a SYNTH issue especially because no one else brought up that concern about option E during the RfC. Sariel Xilo (talk) 19:21, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
::Nobody even brought up that the two sources used to support the claim both state it wasn't even the highest player total. Both sources say it was behind The Sims on top of that. Rambling Rambler (talk) 19:24, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Again, please start a discussion at Talk:Dragon Age: The Veilguard ↗. My talk page isn't going to be the venue to determine if your concerns are valid and what the consensus should be. Sariel Xilo (talk) 19:26, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
::::@Sariel Xilo it's been placed there now. Rambling Rambler (talk) 19:45, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
Style guide
I replied to you on my Talk page in regards to those tables on the Absolute DC pages - but to add to it here. The date MOS ↗ you linked to actually backs up what I did.
It says date shortening should be used "Only in limited situations where brevity is helpful" - and then specifies "For use in tables, infoboxes, references, etc." See here ↗. It's all on the style guide to which you linked.
Shortening dates for tables is part of the Wiki style guide. Tables look a lot better like that because wide columns become problematic, depending on the platform being used. Peterspeterson (talk) 19:38, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
:See my response on your talk page ↗. Sariel Xilo (talk) 19:42, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
Awards tables
I reverted your edit on G. Willow Wilson ↗ and wanted to explain my reasoning. A few other users and I have been working on awards tables for SFF authors. I’ve tried to get a discussion going about standardized formats, but no one had wanted to add anything yet. See here ↗. Please feel free to jump in if you would like to have a discussion there!
Generally, we have been using the “shortlist” template and manually changing the wording to match the awards. The rationale is that an awards shortlist, list of finalists, and list of nominees generally represent similar ideas. This assists with readability. In contrast, a longlist can be a different color because it is a “lesser” level of award than reaching a shortlist. Michelangelo1992 (talk) 10:26, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Michelangelo1992}} I disagree. Nomination & finalist are slightly different; it essentially boils down to if the award is doing multiple rounds of elimination (thus something ending on a short list). By using the same color, you're adding weight that nomination is the equivalent to shortlist. Also, nomination has its own template so we should use it. Unless you establish consensus that the template should not be used, I think we fall under "retain style" so I'm going to revert. Thanks for leaving an explanation. Sariel Xilo (talk) 13:26, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
Smith related
{{collapse top|title=Hopefully this is all resolved. Collapsing given the length, Sariel Xilo (talk) 17:45, 6 October 2025 (UTC)}}
= Conflict of Interest =
Dear Sariel Xilo,
I have respect for your length of time editing Wikipedia. I also know that you have ties to the RPG scene. Although I am not part of that world, I understand that Smith is a decisive figure within it. I believe you should divulge your association with that scene. Slacker13 (talk) 07:14, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Slacker13}} I don't have a conflict of interest or any professional ties to the industry that require disclosure. Just because I primarily edit "geeky" topics (tabletop & video games, comics, TV/film, etc) is not a reason to cast aspersions ↗ or bring this up at my talk page after making an entire discussion about this at the article's talk. Given the WP:HOUNDING ↗, I'm asking you to not contact me on my talk page unless it is to use a template to notify me of a noticeboard discussion (per WP:USERTALKSTOP ↗). Everything about Smith can be discussed at the article's talk page. Sariel Xilo (talk) 15:22, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
= AN/I Thread =
FYI I mentioned you in the AN/I thread about Slacker13. Here. ↗ Simonm223 (talk) 16:48, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
:Thanks! I got pinged so I'm in my sandbox putting diffs together. Sariel Xilo (talk) 16:49, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
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:Yikes. I'm not going to get involved in that but it looks like a boomerang that's going to come back around and hit twice. BOZ (talk) 21:13, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:: Mostly a note (in case the link is needed in the future) - request was declined ↗. Sariel Xilo (talk) 03:14, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
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= "LLM or similar tools" =
Hello.
While I don't use AIs for text generation (or other uses, if I can possibly avoid it), I understand how specific formatting can look similar to how AIs format text.
Since the comment in question at the Zak Smith Talk page is marked as "do not edit" and cannot be commented upon, and you did the collapsing, I suppose it would be better to ask my question at your Talk page directly - which is why I'm here. So:
Would you find it appropriate if I rephrased my comment in a different format, and posted it at the same Talk page?
Thanks in advance. White Spider Shadow (talk) 18:55, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|White Spider Shadow}} Broadly, I think that is fine; I will flag that an admin suggested WP:COAL ↗ early on which is good advice & there are serious WP:BLUDGEONING ↗ throughout the RfC with so many editors feeling the need to respond to every !vote/comment. I would suggest starting a subsection in the RfC's discussion section. The survey section is such a mess to parse because most of the discussion is occuring there even though the RfC was setup with a discussion section. Collapsing off-topic or LLM comments is meant to help it be more readable. Sariel Xilo (talk) 19:23, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::Understood, thank you. Sadly, it really is a mess. White Spider Shadow (talk) 19:40, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
= Rearrangement of Zak Smith RFC =
Hi there! I hope you're having a nice day!
Regarding the recent rearrangement of the RFC above - my comments in reply to "Morbidthoughts (talk) 23:57, 24 August 2025 (UTC ↗)" got folded into a collapsed section you made called "'''Extended discussion in survey section".'''
When I posted that comment for discussion, there was no separate section for discussion/survey for me to post into, so it was in the correct location at the time. It is only after your rearrangement that it appears misplaced. Could you please move it into the recently created "discussion" section, since that's what it is, instead of folding it into the collapsed section?
It's also a single comment with no replies, and thus I do not believe it is correct to call it an "extended discussion". The other comments in that section contain a lot of back-and-forth; mine does not.
Thank you much! Winstonbury (talk) 03:06, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|LokiTheLiar}} collapsed ↗ the section. It looks like your comment was one of the ones that triggered the discussion so it should stay grouped together for context. Sariel Xilo (talk) 03:13, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
::Hi, thanks for responding so promptly!
::All the replies come directly from "Itstheschist (talk) 23:28, 29 August 2025 (UTC) ↗", and related to that comment's content, which is "Wikipedia requires that reliable sources are independent".
::None of the following comments address anything I said in mine. I don't think the extended discussion is related to my comment, which no-one replied to or addressed directly or indirectly. Winstonbury (talk) 03:21, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
:::Oh, sorry - there are two comments with replies - the one above and another by White Spider Shadow (talk) 20:58, 30 August 2025 (UTC) ↗ that has been collapsed as LLM.
:::In any case, none of the discussion therein replies to, or addresses, my comment. They're all about LLMs and sources which do not relate to my comment at all.
:::Regardless - if it's discussion it should be moved into the discussion section, not just collapsed due to a recategorization of a section of text. Winstonbury (talk) 03:31, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
= Splitting into EC/non-EC =
Hello.
I noticed that the comments regarding the RfC at {{pagelinks|1=Talk:Zak Smith}} are split into EC and non-EC - I believe that you split them after ECP was applied to the Talk page. <s>However, the page was returned to its current semi-protected state. Does it make sense to keep the comments split when the page is not under ECP?</s> It's currently under ECP, I'll return to this question after it's lifted, if it will be relevant. White Spider Shadow (talk) 14:25, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
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:I hope the moves I made on the talk page archives made sense. You've got a whole lot of comments from years ago, and ''comparatively'' less on the second archive from the last couple of months, even after I moved 100k of recent text there. :D While technically it is all related, the more recent stuff is all deeply interconnected so it made sense to be able to review it all together. BOZ (talk) 18:28, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
::It is a mess, yeah. Thank you for the help. White Spider Shadow (talk) 19:00, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
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Hey Sariel, been a while. I’m a bit busy right now so can’t participate at the moment but, in case you have a little more time, I wanted to flag this SPI up to you ↗ – if you don’t get around to it, all good (I will later this week) but I think someone should mention the meatpuppet accusations from ANI a few months back. I’m on mobile so it’s hard for me to check if Symphony Regalia had any connection to the VG RFCs. – '''ImaginesTigers''' 10:54, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:I wasn't aware of that SPI (this is the only one ↗ I knew of because of the retaliatory filing ↗) or the potentially connected editor. Offhand I don't recall them in those RfCs & from a quick scan of that link, it looks like Symphony Regalia was topic banned from a few connected aspects before the wave of RfCs occurred so they might have just stayed well away to avoid stumbling into their topic banned areas. But I also don't have the bandwidth to wade into this (see recent notifications on my talk). Sorry I can't be of more help! Sariel Xilo (talk) 15:59, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|ImaginesTigers}} I'm not getting involved but that SPI you flagged last month has jumped over to AN/I ↗ (in case that noticeboard isn't on your watchlist). Sariel Xilo (talk) 02:18, 19 September 2025 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Cdjp1}} Thanks for the barnstar! And thanks for doing all that reference clean up work at the article! Sariel Xilo (talk) 22:02, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
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::Thanks for the list! Just came back from a break so I'm hoping to dive into the drive later this week. Sariel Xilo (talk) 16:23, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
:::Sounds good. :) BOZ (talk) 14:50, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Toadspike}} I was on the fence about needing it before the rollout so thank you for recommending it! Sariel Xilo (talk) 16:18, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
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Kpop Demon Hunters cites in lede
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Hi Sariel Xilo: I've just noticed your edit about the genre of the film citations. Wikipedia policy for lede usually means trying to keep cites out of the lede as much as possible. Are you planning to take those cites out of the lede now that they are in the main body of the article? ErnestKrause (talk) 17:24, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|ErnestKrause|Jamie Eilat}} I was looking at the infobox options because typically it has a genre option where you can also stick the citations but I'm not seeing that as an option in Template:Infobox film ↗. Thoughts? Sariel Xilo (talk) 17:27, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
::The genre parameter is specific to Infobox television template not film template. — Jamie Eilat (talk) 17:31, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
::Most recent films are keeping genre in the lede and the main body, without listing genre in the Infobox; that sounds correct to me. The inclusion of the citations at the top of the current lede for ''Hunters'' looks a little top-heavy to me, and not needed now since its already covered in the main body. Any thoughts? ErnestKrause (talk) 17:33, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
:Wikipedia's policy is to keep redundant citations out of the lead, but it also states that "the presence of citations in the lead is neither required in every article nor prohibited in any article ↗". It isn't fully uncommon for film articles to have genre &/or nationality being cited in the lead. There isn't any good reason to try to jam the mention of the genre into the release section (where it honestly doesn't ''quite'' belong) ''just'' for the purpose of geting the few non-redundant citations out of the lead. — Jamie Eilat (talk) 17:38, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
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Hi Sariel; GA review is in process now; you might take a look and start in if it looks interesting. ErnestKrause (talk) 01:47, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
:Hi Sariel; GA nomination seemed to go through fairly well and it seems time to start the process for the next promotion, possibly to make the nomination on Nov 22 or Nov 23. Are you interested being part of the co-nomination for the next promotion of the article at this time? ErnestKrause (talk) 15:50, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
::Hi Sariel; Nomination for FAC of Kpop Demon Hunters should be going forward in about 48 hours; if you would like to participate then let me know. Its perfectly fine for you to sit this one out if this is not your thing. I'll be able to invite one of my other Wikipedia editor collaborators with FAC experience to take your place. Its fine if you prefer to sit this one out, and you could let me know your preference at this time. ErnestKrause (talk) 16:30, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
:::I'd like to participate! Just missed the original talk page notification. Sariel Xilo (talk) 17:01, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
::::Good to hear from you. I've put in the nomination this morning and you can add your signature to the co-nomination whenever you are ready at WP:FAC ↗. If you have time then you can also look at the other nominations there to get a general perspective on how the evaluation moves forward; generally it needs to have 3-4 editors who are willing to support it, with another editor who needs to review the images. As a general approach, try to be polite with the evaluation comments and it should be useful in moving the article through the evaluation. ErnestKrause (talk) 14:29, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
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Hi Sariel Xilo: If you are good in the subject matter of any of the other FAC nomination currently being evaluated on the general nominations page, then you might consider doing one of the other nominations listed there. That way at the end of your evaluation there you can mention that you currently have a nomination also in progress and politely ask if they might be able to join the review of your article. It is a way to try to attract other editors to join the review for the Kpop nomination. It doesn't always work though its often worth a try. ErnestKrause (talk) 15:11, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
:That's a good idea! My weekend got a bit swamped IRL but I should have wiki time after today. Sariel Xilo (talk) 16:39, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
::Nice edit yesterday on the main article for the film about the Oscars. When I added that edit into the recently created Accolades article for the film, then Jamie reverted there as well; what do you think? ErnestKrause (talk) 14:57, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
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Some almonds for you!
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Hey, would you be willing to go to commons and nominate commons:File:Vic-Michaelis_imdb.png ↗ for speedy deletion on my behalf? I can't typically edit outside of en as I'm on an otherwise blocked VPN and my need to edit outside of en is infrequent enough that I'm not IP block exempt anywhere else. <span class="nowrap"><sup>''Laffy''</sup><span style="color:#a30d8f">Taffer</span>💬<small>(they/she ↗)</small></span> 17:46, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
:I see you've just done so, thank you so much <3 <span class="nowrap"><sup>''Laffy''</sup><span style="color:#a30d8f">Taffer</span>💬<small>(they/she ↗)</small></span> 17:52, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
::I guess we were thinking alike because I had the commons criteria for speedy deletion up when I saw your ping (I never remember the exact code numbers)! Tagged it with speedy deletion for copyright issues. Sariel Xilo (talk) 17:53, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
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Your edits on MPS are conspicuosly flattering and overly detailed. Do you have any personal connection to the school? -- Melchior2006 (talk) 17:43, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Melchior2006}} I don't have a COI. I just tend to go down rabbit holes & rely on quotes (as can be seen from my long-term editing trends). I don't think the academic quotes about Sarah Porter were all that flattering. I'm trying to find secondary sources on the school's evolution from finishing school to a college prep school. I'm also trying to add national context on trends (like tuition increases and enrollment numbers). While I trimmed down the paragraph you called boosterism ↗ in February 2026, I didn't add it. Sariel Xilo (talk) 17:52, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
::OK, thanks. Your edits are a bit heavy on detail, so maybe you can keep that in mind as we move forward with this article. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 15:15, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
:::By the way, I found your recent edits to be particularly valuable. The foundress's rejection of higher studies, the Whartons' assessment of the teaching ... what fascinating details! I was thinking about the tag claiming the article is based too much on primary sources. Do you think this tag is still justified? You have improved the article a lot. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 15:04, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
::::Thanks! We could maybe move the primary tag to just the campus section if you thought the history section has enough secondary sources now.
::::In terms of Sarah Porter, I thought her views were really interesting and seem to be left out of the myth of the school (ie. while she was an education pioneer, Sarah Porter seemed more interested in education as a way to become cultured and not learning for learnings sake but you wouldn't be able to tell that based on the school's website). It is really fascinating because a bunch of those early students then went on to be very academically focused & pioneers in all sorts of subjects even though Porter didn't support higher education. I'd love to find any sources about the environment there in the 1880s that led to that happening. The other eras I'm striking out in research are 1903-1917 (Elizabeth Keep), 1917-1943 (Robert Keep Jr), and 1943-1966 (the Frenches). As Elizabeth Keep becomes the head, the majority of the student body abandoned the school to follow Dow to a new school so how did she turn that around? There's a throwaway line in one source that college prep became a focus between 1910 & 1916 so why that pivot to & away from academics? The 1973 NYT article describes it as a quintessential finishing school with no mention of a previous academic era; it basically just says the school had to hard pivot to college prep in the 1940s. I also couldn't find anything about those early official "not a finishing school anymore" years. Let me know if you have any ideas on how to tackle those research areas. Sariel Xilo (talk) 18:47, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
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KDH
Hi SarielXilo; I've not seen you at KDH for nearly a month. There have been a string of edits from Fruitful Frugal to the plot there which I'm not sure what to think of; do they belong in the article. Could you take a glance. ErnestKrause (talk) 01:13, 25 June 2026 (UTC)
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