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Problem Editor

I have noticed a string of highly problematic edits by user Carmaker1:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Carmaker1 ↗. As with Volvo V70 ↗, Nissan Murano ↗, Audi 100 ↗ and Honda Odyssey (North America) ↗, he inserts the names of car designers based on missing, misleading or spurious references. In the Volvo V70 article, he inserted the name of a dubious designer into an article in such a way as to leave a direct and referenced quote by the actual designer attributed to his newly introduced spurious designer. And from what I can tell, he's pretty much blazing a trail through lots and lots of articles. His responses are... well... not helpful, to say the least. I notice that you ran into some similar issues with him recently. Is this something you could help with?842U (talk)

US$

Thanks!

Thanks for the edit that says only one image can be selected in the Infobox of an English Wikipedia article.
I made this mistake because I'm Brazilian, I work at the Portuguese Wikipedia, and there are no limits on how many images can be placed in the Infobox.
Pax NeroRezend (talk) 16:46, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
:You are welcome. ''' Stepho ''' talk ↗  20:28, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

A appreciation message!

Hello there! I saw your recent reverts on AEC Regent III RT ↗ and AEC Routemaster ↗ and I want leave a appreciation message here!

Seriously, there's some proud English editors (I think two: User:Murgatroyd49 and User:Redrose64 - this one is English) on articles about British vehicles (buses and cars) who can't accept a edit about placing "United Kingdom" on vehicle infoboxes (even when technically the country is correct for Wikipedia and naming standards), and they revert: "United Kingdom: (name of the city), England" by removing the UK alleging, per example, "convention is to use the country, not the state".

Some of their complaining on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject London Transport ↗: "An editor has unilaterally decided to change "England" to "United Kingdom" in the location field of the infoboxes of various bus articles, such as AEC Regent III, AEC Regent II etcetera. I was under the impression that the relevant country was the preference", "And since when did the country come before the town/city?" (but all editors do this edit recently) and "Their latest trick is to use both United Kingdom and England, with one before and the other after". As far as I know, a revert is applied to vandalism, unsourced informations, etcetera, not for some kind of nationalist opinion (other non-British editors here doesn't have these issues!!)

Anyways, congratulations for your work here in Automobile articles in Wikipedia. Best regards, 創新劇ゴジ SoshingekiGoji (talk) SoshingekiGoji (talk) 23:37, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

:And thank you for your work.
:I'm not too worried about them. I've been here for almost 20 years, I can outlast them.
:The country first thing is mostly for when there are a ''group'' of cities from a single country. Otherwise we normally do city, country. ''' Stepho ''' talk ↗  22:46, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
::Hello!
::I know that location thing isn't a big issue, but these editors I mentioned earlier revert like if is some kind of vandalism or bad thing (as you can deduce by their comments on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject London Transport ↗ topic abot "England or UK")
::This (unecessary) issue and revert spree occured more with British vehicle articles (specially by User:Murgatroyd49 and User:Redrose64)
::Other countries with complex group of cities (like Japan, Canada or USA) doesn't face this revert kind. Only UK cars.
::I don't know if these English editors are very nationalist or proud (like, they think thay placing United Kingdom is wrong so that's why reverting UK), but avoiding a edit war is a better sollution for now
::Best regards, 創新劇ゴジ SoshingekiGoji (talk) 22:50, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Ways to improve Toyota Deliboy

Hello, Stepho-wrs,

Thank you for creating Toyota Deliboy ↗.

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Fade258 (talk) 16:04, 11 September 2025 (UTC)

:Er, there is some confusion here. I created Toyota Deliboy ↗ as a redirect. Redirects never have references. It seems like some other editors keep changing it to a stand-alone article, which then gets quickly reverted back to a simple redirect. ''' Stepho ''' talk ↗  00:00, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey there!
About your reverts on my edits on Triumph TR7 ↗ and Triumph TR8 ↗ articles, I want to thank you (ok, it's a little weird to thank for a revert, I guess) for recommending the see WP:GEOCOMMA ↗ and WP:SEAOFBLUE ↗. They're helping me to avoid overlinkings (about cities) in future edits.
Honestly, the reverts were more reasonable than from the last two editors from the last issue about UK vs ENG revert discussion, where they just complained (as on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject London Transport#England or UK ↗ discussion). It's better when a editor have embasis while reverting

Best regards, 創新劇ゴジ SoshingekiGoji (talk) SoshingekiGoji (talk) 00:36, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

:No problem. There are a lot of rules to learn and it takes a while to be comfortable with them all. Even us old hands get it wrong sometimes. ;) ''' Stepho ''' talk ↗  01:34, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

:For most parts of WP we would list a location as something like "Speke ↗, Merseyside, England" or "Speke ↗, Merseyside, UK" (with no preference for England vs UK). For automobile infoboxes, this looks a bit clumsy when there are multiple locations in the same country, so we make a fake heading for the country and then list the locations under that. Eg:
::'''United Kingdom:'''
::Speke ↗, Merseyside
::Coventry ↗, West Midlands
::Solihull ↗, West Midlands
:Although the counties could be considered optional if the links go to the correct place.
:We never list a location individually in colon form like "United Kingdom: Speke ↗, Merseyside" or "England: Speke ↗, Merseyside". ''' Stepho ''' talk ↗  01:55, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
::This example of fake heading is usually used, as far I saw, on some articles where a car was built in more than two or three cities (like Ford or Chevrolet car articles like this: Ford Model T ↗). They can help to organisate better a infobox.
:: 創新劇ゴジ SoshingekiGoji (talk) SoshingekiGoji (talk) 23:04, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

Porsche 356

the supporting references are {{cite book |last1=Conradt |first1=Dirk-Michael |title= Porsche 356 |year=2020 |publisher=Motor Buch Verlag |isbn=978-3-613-04262-9}} Page 244.
Always make sure to review the sources first before deleting anything!
With Kind regards Neptun22 (talk) 12:36, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

:Apologies for being drastic with the revert but it was necessary. Wikipedia lives and dies by every fact having a supporting reference. Any "fact" that does not have a supporting reference must automatically be treated as suspect. We don't know if the unsupported fact is the truth, a misunderstanding or an outright lie. The support reference gives us confidence that it is the truth. This is covered in WP:FACT ↗ and WP:RELIABLESOURCES ↗.
:Your additions had the ring of truth and I assumed that you probably had the supporting references at hand but your additions had absolutely no support references. As you are a new editor, I wanted you to know that references are a necessary part of adding facts to Wikipedia. Note also that I asked you to undo my revert when you had the references ready, so I was not being harshly critical but was rather gentling guiding you.
:As I said in my edit summary, please undo my revert and add the reference to the article. Putting the reference on my talk page is not helpful becuase other editors in 5 years time will not know where to look to verify the information. If you are not sure how to add references, please look in the article's wiki text for the {{tag|ref}} tag. If you still have toruble then try your best and I will clean it up afterwards. Also feel free to ask if you want help.
:Lastly, assume WP:GOODFAITH ↗ when somebody reverts your changes - especially when the reason is given in the revertig edit summayr. Many of us old hands are happy to help the new guys. ''' Stepho ''' talk ↗  12:52, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
::the reference was on the Porsche 356 page and also reversed ! I only have forgotten to add the page 244 where everything is documented.
::with kind regards Neptun22 (talk) 13:10, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
:::Ah, I see your misunderstanding now. It is not enough that the reference already exists somewhere on the page. It must be attached ''directly'' to the fact. Otherwise we cannot check your new "facts" without tediously going through every single existing reference on the page.
:::Please undo my revert and add {{tlx|sfn|Conradt|2020|4=page=244}} at the end of the first line of prose in the new section. This gives enough clues to other editors who wish to double check your facts. ''' Stepho ''' talk ↗  13:24, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

Lamborghini sterrato

Here: User talk:TKOIII#“Lamborghini Sterrato” 93.38.65.80 ↗ (talk) 21:08, 11 October 2025 (UTC)

Web: https://www.dariozani.it/

Thanks and Bye! --93.38.65.80 ↗ (talk) 21:12, 11 October 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks. With YouTube, it is sometimes hard to tell what is an official production and what is just some random guy with an opinion. ''' Stepho ''' talk ↗  04:07, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

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Unit order

Hello Stepho-wrs ↗, I don't know where you are getting your information from, the Wikipedia:WikiProject Automobiles/Conventions has Germany in the rest of the world so we lead with kW for power. I'm surprised, you're normally very knowledgeable on this. Avi8tor (talk) 09:19, 21 November 2025 (UTC)

:There was some discussion a year or 2 ago where it was sort of agreed that countries that use/used PS get the same privilege that hp gets for the US. This mostly applies to older European cars and Japanese cars because their home countries extensively advertised power figures in PS.
:However, I don't think we ever went back and re-worded WP:AUTOCONV ↗ to reflect the consensus.
:Nevertheless, please feel free to raise it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles/Conventions ↗ or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles ↗. ''' Stepho ''' talk ↗  09:48, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, I'll do that tomorrow. That discussion you mention did include me (I have a copy). What I understood was we use the units used in the country where the headquarters are situated. Tesla being made in the USA, China and Germany, the US is where the headquarters are so US units prevail. In the UK the only unit in new vehicle owner manuals is kW, I'll have to check when that took place. The rest of the world uses SI for the primary unit for vehicles manufactured after 1980. Avi8tor (talk) 16:57, 21 November 2025 (UTC)

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:Thank you. And of course, a happy upcoming new year to you. ''' Stepho ''' talk ↗  06:14, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

Re: Flat-plane crank page edit

Thx for the revert but to be fair I think McLaren would be better example than Lotus's V8 since all of their (Lotus) bespoke V8 cars has gone out of production for many years. And the most common example in modern days alongside with Ferrari is McLaren. So should we replace Lotus with McLaren? Nicc34 (talk) 06:26, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

:Sure. As long as it's a short, indicative list I have no problem with that.
:It sure is nice to chat about these things instead of arguing like some others do. ''' Stepho ''' talk ↗  06:41, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

ANCAP alignment

The alignment goes both ways. Euro NCAP adopts some ratings for Eastern vehicles given by ANCAP. Trigenibinion (talk) 14:27, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

Why can't City of Everett be marked as "developed_from" for the Boeing 747?

Isn't the Boeing 747 ↗ prototype City of Everett ↗ and the Boeing 707 ↗ prototype Boeing 367-80 ↗ the same principle? Why can't City of Everett be marked as "developed_from" for the Boeing 747? Houtyuhn (talk) 12:42, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

:I have left a reply at Talk:Boeing_747#Why_can't_City_of_Everett_be_marked_as_"developed_from"_for_the_Boeing_747? ↗. ''' Stepho ''' talk ↗  22:56, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

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Koenigsegg Gemera in Automotive Superlatives

Concerning your reversion of my (somewhat) recent edit to List of automotive superlatives ↗, should the TFG not technically be counted, considering that the engine never made it to being in a production car? I imagine it's also probably not the largest three cylinder ever, considering the absurd engines they were putting in race cars in the early 20th century. Buv16 (talk) 13:58, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

:Yeah, re-reading the Koenigsegg Gemera ↗ article and some references, it's not clear if the 3-cyl actually reached any customers or not. References say that ''most'' 3-cyl orders were converted to V8 orders but don't say if the unchanged orders were made or cancelled. Best to ask at Talk:Koenigsegg Gemera ↗ if anybody knows if it reached production or not. ''' Stepho ''' talk ↗  23:01, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
::Also, notably, even if some three cylinder customer cars have been delivered, the qualifications to be on the list include having at least 25 of those particular instances to have been made, and there's almost certainly not 25 three cylinder Gemeras made. I'll still see if I can find some sources saying otherwise though. Buv16 (talk) 15:52, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

Can you do me a favour

Hi Stepho-wrs, I hope you are keeping well. I'm glad you enjoyed the image of the purple i30. Its actually blue for correction.
Are you kindly able to take a look at the Hyundai i30 ↗ article for me please. There are a lot of really bad quality images

I want your opinion on which of the two N-Line i30s are suitable.
thumb|right|Option 1 ↗
thumb|right|Option 2 ↗

I'm not sure, both are bad, but option 2 is cluttered in a dealership. The Hyundai i30 article for the N-Line i don't think a car dealership is the best representative, and I'm glad you are very versed on the carpix standards :).

If you are able to help out, please let me know. I want a second opinion for own reference. I don't like car dealer pics and its not a very good prominent spot, would you expect to picture your partner for a birthday frae wall with people surrounding or some goose driving a HiLux rocking out (reference to Beavis and Butthead) ~2026-16510-18 ↗ (talk) 09:36, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

:Agreed, WP has mediocre car images. Like you, I'm not much of a fan of car park pictures - the backgrounds are too distracting. The blue image is a bit better than the grey car park image becuase it stands out from its background. It's rear image is also not too bad.
:hu-hu, hu-hu (B+B ref) ''' Stepho ''' talk ↗  10:34, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

thumb|Option 1 - rear ↗

::No worries. Are you able to help me out with the Hyundai i30 ↗ article. GaryJAllen seems to prefer the car dealership ones and is being protective of them. Either that or what you reckon, maybe chuck a proposal on the Talk:Hyundai i30 ↗ with proposed changes and we get everyone to vote? --~2026-16510-18 ↗ (talk) 11:02, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

:::Sorry, I'm a bit busy at the moment. ''' Stepho ''' talk ↗  22:32, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

Toyota Crown Comfort

Hey mate, in reference to your revert ↗ I inserted a taxicab ↗ in the article. I removed it because of WP:GALLERY ↗ plus we don't need to show every single cab in different countries, this is not Taxicabs of Hong Kong ↗ for instance. I apologise if my edit summary ruined the article, but I don't want to clump edit, rather break down each edit to make it easier. ~2026-16756-09 ↗ (talk) 00:02, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

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Toyota Land Cruiser

Listen, the link provided is a dynamic government dashboard. It doesn't have a unique URL for every specific model search, but the data is 100% there under the 'Land Cruiser' filter. Reverting a valid government source just because you don't want to click a filter is not 'good faith'. If you have a better source that says otherwise, show it. Otherwise, stop removing verified official data. Wrcw (talk) 05:12, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

:Furthermore, I see you are now mass-deleting my edits on the Toyota Avanza page as well, including verified data from GAIKINDO and data.gov.my.
:These are official industry and government sources. Deleting them across multiple articles because you refuse to navigate a simple dashboard is a violation of WP:DE (Disruptive Editing). You are actively making Wikipedia less accurate. If you continue to delete these verified official statistics instead of helping to format the citations, I will be forced to report your behavior to the Administrator's Noticeboard for targeted harassment and disruptive conduct. Stop your baseless reverts now. Wrcw (talk) 05:52, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

List of best-selling automobiles - Toyota Corolla

Hello, I had updated the total worldwide sales of the Toyota Corolla without providing a reference for it, due to which you have reverted the changes made. I am new to Wikipedia editing and not very well-versed on how to add and cite references on this website. It would be really helpful if you could add my references on my behalf, which I have linked below, and bring back my prior changes to the article. Kindly let me know if my references are not upto the mark or are not legitimate. Thank you very much.

2022 sales- https://www.drive.com.au/news/top-10-best-selling-cars-worldwide-in-2022/

2023 sales- https://www.drive.com.au/news/tesla-model-y-worlds-best-selling-car-2023/

2024 sales- https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/worlds-top-10-best-selling-cars-2024-toyota-tesla

https://www.racv.com.au/royalauto/transport/cars/top-selling-car-in-the-world-2024.html

2025 sales- https://www.statista.com/statistics/239229/most-sold-car-models-worldwide/

(Kindly note that I am not able to find my source for the Corolla hatchback sales in 2024. The two links provided only mention the sedan sales) DunkZupreme (talk) 12:43, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

Citroën 2CV

Hey there!

About the edit on the Citroën 2CV article, I know that the correct is Cimos, but I added Tomos|Cimos to avoid "Redirected from..." message when clicking on the hyperlink (I know some edits can be understood as errors did sometimes but wasn't this case)

Best regards, 創新劇ゴジ: 創新劇ゴジ SoshingekiGoji (talk) 09:39, 20 May 2026 (UTC)

:Thanks for the heads up.
:The "Redirected from..." message is not actually a problem. WP:REDIRECT ↗ is our guide in this situation - specifically, WP:REDIRECTSAREOK ↗. ''' Stepho ''' talk ↗  10:02, 20 May 2026 (UTC)

Lexus RX

Hi Stepho-wrs, just to clarify my cut-off edit summary: adding "and electric" introduces a factual error for the Indonesian market. In automotive nomenclature, an "electric lineup" explicitly denotes Battery Electric Vehicles (BEVs). Since the Indonesian Lexus RX currently only offers HEV and PHEV variants without any pure BEV options, keeping it as "electrified" or simply "hybrid" is the most accurate approach. We should prioritize technical accuracy over assumed reader confusion. Thanks! Wrcw (talk) 04:44, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Octane rating edit

Thanks for the change on Octane rating ↗ re: removing the acid conversion citation. I'm still learning the rules of the site and didn't have a better source for the claim. The expectation is that the claim was at least more realistic than "[converts to] hydrochloric acid" which is frankly absurd - I am flabbergasted that claim was unedited for nearly 8 years. ~2026-36992-12 ↗ (talk) 17:08, 1 July 2026 (UTC)
:No problem. Having a claim supported only by a company that will benefit from it is definitely a conflict of interest. ''' Stepho ''' talk ↗  23:29, 1 July 2026 (UTC)