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Jin Jing

Please don't add your own interpretation to articles as you did to Jin Jing ↗. If the source is reliable, and the Globe & Mail as Canada's newspaper of record is a reliable source according to WP:RS ↗, you just can't change the meaning by inserting into the text that it is all speculation. If that would be an ok thing to do every single sentence in the wikipedia would start with according to the speculation of .... If you have reason to assume that it is really speculation you should have no problem finding a source that says so. Preferably not a mouthpiece of the CCP, though. Cheers, Dassiebtekreuz (talk) 07:42, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
:You are entitled to your opinion, so is Geoffrey York, author of the Globe & Mail's OPINION piece. But I would like to remind you that there is a difference between facts and opinions. As far as facts are concerned, Mr. York did not provide factual support for the statement that "Initially the state media of China censored reports on the torch protest and the incident involving Jin Jing, but soon found it more convenient to report on the protest and portray China as the victim, thus appealing to patriotic sentiments". I hope you would do a better job in checking the original source for factual reports, rather than opinions. If you only find the latter, please state it explicitly. Thanks. --Zhenqinli (talk) 08:01, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe you should check the source - this is not an opion piece as it is simply not in the opinion section of the Globe & Mail, you can easily check that. Dassiebtekreuz (talk) 08:16, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I did check the source. The article, with the full title of "BEIJING'S OLYMPIC TROUBLES: COMMUNISTS FRAME THE ISSUE AS US-AGAINST-THEM; China spins protests abroad to buttress support at home", was not labeled as in opinion section. But as I stated earlier, it did not contain much factual reporting, and none regarding the statement that "Initially the state media of China censored reports on the torch protest and the incident involving Jin Jing, but soon found it more convenient to report on the protest and portray China as the victim, thus appealing to patriotic sentiments". If something looks like a Duck, walks like a Duck, and quacks like a Duck, what do you call it? --Zhenqinli (talk) 08:33, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Hello, Zhenqinli. The section of torch relay needs to be improved. There are several sentences talking about the attack by protesters. I think that part needs to be smoothed. Thanks!--Jingandteller (talk) 13:56, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

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:Excellent advice for yourself, as I am not interested in the POV push as in your example. Thank you. --Zhenqinli (talk) 21:47, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

regarding cat for JinJing

Thanks for all the effort, but you and i can not deny the fact that they can easily find sources that labeled a big "propaganda" tag to this incident. I basically can not find any that explicitly argue that it is not. So unless we have sources to dispute it, i would suggest to settle down, for a while. thanks. (Cowboybebop98 (talk) 15:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC))
:Thanks for the concern. I will continue to edit within Wikipedia guidelines and try to separate opinions from facts, when I find time. I have to say that watching the performance of "Do What I Say, Not What I Do" is not necessarily a bad experience. :) --Zhenqinli (talk) 15:38, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
:: I understand that "Do what i say, Not What i do" refers to double standards (or not?). I guess i just don't get the hidden meaning. Do you mind explaining a bit more?(Cowboybebop98 (talk) 16:03, 1 May 2008 (UTC))

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:Yeah, talking about Law & Order by someone who himself appears to be engaged in an edit war ↗. I am eager to see how convincing is your POV push. :) --Zhenqinli (talk) 06:42, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

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{{unblock reviewed|1=The blocking appears to be based on one-sided misrepresentation of the relevant facts. The allegation that there was a "consensus" or "conclusion" on the talk page about using the controversial category is not true: I myself was one of the first to oppose the use of the category. Wikipedia allows for WP:Three-revert_rule#Exceptions ↗: "reverts to remove clearly libelous material, or unsourced or poorly sourced controversial material about living persons (see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons)" This was clearly what I was doing. I myself would not mind not to edit Wikipedia for the next 24 hours (or longer), but I think such blocking would reflect poorly on Wikipedia's dispute resolution process, and encourage POV push and lobbying activities similar to what User:Oiboy77 ↗ have done in the last 24 hours. Zhenqinli (talk) 18:56, 4 May 2008 (UTC)|decline= The reverts were about whether :Category:Propaganda in the People's Republic of China ↗ should be added to Jin Jing ↗. That's not "unsourced or poorly sourced controversial material about living persons". First, because it is presumably meant to signify that she's been the ''subject'' of propaganda, which is not really a statement about her personal characteristics. Second, the article quotes several respected newspapers as asserting that she was made the subject of propaganda; the category is thus adequately sourced for BLP purposes. Therefore, your violation of the 3RR rule was unjustified. — Sandstein (talk) 19:23, 4 May 2008 (UTC)}}

:I don't think being "presumably meant to signify that she's been the ''subject'' of propaganda" is a sufficient reason to apply the controversial category to a living person -- any living person (not just Jin Jing ↗). Presumed by whom? The readers of Wikipedia? As of now, I have lost confidence in the English Wikipedia appeal process, and will stop editing English Wikipedia for at least the next week, as a gesture of protest. --Zhenqinli (talk) 20:33, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

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The Arbitration Committee ↗ is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process ↗. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans ↗, topic bans ↗, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy ↗ describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2021 election, please review the candidates ↗ and submit your choices on the '''2021|poll}}|voting page ↗'''. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{tlx|NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. <small>MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:15, 23 November 2021 (UTC)</small>
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ArbCom 2022 Elections voter message

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Hello! Voting in the '''2022 Arbitration Committee elections ↗''' is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on {{#time:l, j F Y|{{Arbitration Committee candidate/data|2022|end}}-1 day}}. All '''eligible users ↗''' are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee ↗ is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process ↗. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans ↗, topic bans ↗, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy ↗ describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2022 election, please review the candidates ↗ and submit your choices on the '''2022|poll}}|voting page ↗'''. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{tlx|NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. <small>MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:31, 29 November 2022 (UTC)</small>

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ArbCom 2023 Elections voter message

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Hello! Voting in the '''2023 Arbitration Committee elections ↗''' is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on {{#time:l, j F Y|{{Arbitration Committee candidate/data|2023|end}}-1 day}}. All '''eligible users ↗''' are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee ↗ is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process ↗. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans ↗, topic bans ↗, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy ↗ describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2023 election, please review the candidates ↗ and submit your choices on the '''2023|poll}}|voting page ↗'''. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{tlx|NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. <small>MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:26, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</small>

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ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message

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Hello! Voting in the '''2024 Arbitration Committee elections ↗''' is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on {{#time:l, j F Y|{{Arbitration Committee candidate/data|2024|end}}-1 day}}. All '''eligible users ↗''' are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee ↗ is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process ↗. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans ↗, topic bans ↗, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy ↗ describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2024 election, please review the candidates ↗ and submit your choices on the '''2024|poll}}|voting page ↗'''. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{tlx|NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. <small>MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:12, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</small>

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ArbCom 2025 Elections voter message

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Hello! Voting in the '''2025 Arbitration Committee elections ↗''' is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on {{#time:l, j F Y|{{Arbitration Committee candidate/data|2025|end}}-1 day}}. All '''eligible users ↗''' are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee ↗ is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process ↗. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans ↗, topic bans ↗, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy ↗ describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2025 election, please review the candidates ↗ and submit your choices on the '''2025|poll}}|voting page ↗'''. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{tlx|NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. <small>MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:30, 18 November 2025 (UTC)</small>

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