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Sierra Nevada

Thanks for your edit to :Sierra Nevada ↗, that is an interesting addition. I grew up in California but had never heard anyone object to "the Sierras" and didn't know it had become a point of contention. (Although it was firmly drummed into me that it's ''never'' "Frisco".) Cheers! Schazjmd ''(talk)'' 15:33, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

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Irene Byon

hi: thank you for adding the article about Byon. once it is fleshed out you could add a link to it in the "Kenosha unrest" article. but all the diffs prior to 1056012036 ↗ are not related to the article and could be restored to your sandbox by a sysop or simply deleted. also, you may want to add her story to MSNBC controversies ↗. thanks for reading. :) 173.87.170.14 ↗ (talk) 00:30, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

:Thanks. I did add to MSNBC controversies but the "Kenosha unrest" article is protected and I don't have 500 edits yet, so I can't add the link. BBQboffin (talk) 01:19, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

::yw. i saw the work you did on that controversies page. thank you, sometimes my writing is poor. :) 173.87.170.14 ↗ (talk) 07:20, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thanks for the fix on :Sierra Nevada ↗. I noticed the coords error but didn't realize it was my edit to "width" in the infobox that caused it. I appreciate you pointing that out. Schazjmd ''(talk)'' 20:40, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

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Reliable Sources Discussion

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:Well now I can cross “Have one of my edits be the subject of a Wikipedia Noticeboard discussion” off my bucket list! BBQboffin (talk) 03:37, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red

Hi there, BBQboffin. I noticed you have added the Women in Red user box to your sandbox page. I see you have already created a page on Naomi Tacuyan Underwood ↗. Do you wish to become a member of the project? If so, is there any particular area you wish to contribute to? Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 06:10, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

:Thank you. As I wrote in my application, I am hoping to add to (or help save by adding good sources) articles relating to journalism, STEM, and civil rights. BBQboffin (talk) 04:13, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

::Welcome to Women in Red. Good to see you are interested in women from several different sectors including STEM which is one of this month's priorities ↗. As we are moving into a new registration approach, I have added your name to Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/New members ↗. If you have not already done so, you may find it useful to look through our Essays ↗, for example our Ten Simple Rules ↗. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties or need assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 06:06, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, BBQboffin. Thank you for your work on Liubov Kostiukova ↗. User:SunDawn, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process ↗, had the following comments:

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CE Issues

There are still some issues relating to grammar and a way to reword multiple sentences. For example, the sentence "Waters joined the Hughes Aircraft Company ↗ in 1952 and was involved in pioneering research on germanium and silicon bipolar transistors ↗, and filed five patents during this period." can be reworded as "Waters joined the Hughes Aircraft Company ↗ in 1952 and was involved in pioneering research on germanium and silicon bipolar transistors ↗; filing five patents during this period." These mistakes should be easy to fix, but I'll leave it to you to fix them. Ray 09:13, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

:This is the article I'm referring to: Warren P. Waters - Wikipedia ↗ Ray 09:13, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
::Thanks! I'll reword the sentence, but your rewording appears to me to be an incorrect use of a semicolon, as "filing five patents during this period" is not an independent clause, but "he filed five patents during this period" would be correct. I'll look over the rest and see if I can find more issues. BBQboffin (talk) 16:19, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for November 24

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:Thanks, fixed now. BBQboffin (talk) 07:19, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

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Sam Brinton

You deleted highly notable information from the lede, citing (1) WP:CRIME and (2) UNDUE. Re. (1), there is nothing (that I can see) in that very long piece saying that someone charged with an offence or having a warrant issued against them cannot have that info in the lede. That article is all about particular major criminals' articles, so isn’t relevant here. Re. (2) this man is the very first "non-binary" high-level appointee in the Govt that we know of and as such anything about him that is untoward is highly notable. Unfortunately for him there is a lot that is untoward about him and his story. He has been charged for the first reported theft and there’s a warrant out for his arrest for the second reported one. That’s two thefts, both of which law enforcement has video evidence for. And that’s not DUE!? smh Boscaswell talk 06:57, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

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Help with removing excessive detail

Hello again - I'm taking up your offer of help! I'm editing a page tagged for having excessive intricate detail and I can see some detail I think I can remove and summarise. I was wondering if when doing this I should paste a record of the original text containing the detail I'm removing on the article's talk page. Or is that not necessary? Breatheforpeace (talk) 02:35, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

:No need to post the deleted text since the page history saves a record of earlier revisions. If anyone has a beef about your edits, they can revert. I'd suggest you: (1) make your WP:BOLD ↗ removals and condensations and in your edit summary add "see talk page" and (2) explain on the talk page your rationale. Cheers! BBQboffin (talk) 02:48, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
::Ah brilliant, thank you. I also have a question about adding tags for issues - I can't find the insert button to do this - any tips? I'm on iOS, could that be why? Breatheforpeace (talk) 03:15, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
:::Sorry, I don't use iOS. When I personally add a tag I click on "Edit source" and add it that way. Maybe ask at the Teahouse ↗? Cheers! BBQboffin (talk) 21:34, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

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Capitalization

Will you tell me why the term is not capitalized? I also added content that is factual and provable. It was deleted. I think it is very important that the world knows Amy Kremer sent a letter in support of the confirmation of one our Supreme Court Justice's. It's a listed document on the U.S. COMMITTEE OF THE JUDICIARY website. EnlightenedIllusions (talk) 18:41, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

:Wikipedia has a Manual of Style ↗ which provides rules for capitalizations. The United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary ↗ page also does not have every letter in every word in caps. The committee itself might use the name in all caps on its letterhead, but that doesn't affect Wikipedia's presentation.
: As for the inclusion of the Amy Kremer letter, although it may be a fact that she wrote it, why does it merit inclusion on Lindsay Graham's page? You could try adding it to Amy Kremer ↗ but it's likely to be removed unless you have a secondary source for it (such as the Washington Post or New York Times reporting the letter). Officeholders have their staffs write and attach their names to hundreds of letters, so why is ''this particular letter'' notable and merit inclusion? '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 18:56, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
::I listed the link and the date. It's a download straight from Committee of the Judiciary. EnlightenedIllusions (talk) 19:49, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
::He was Chairman. So you have a possible traitor associating with a high ranking member approving a Supreme court juctice. EnlightenedIllusions (talk) 19:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:::The place to discuss the inclusion of the letter would be on the various articles' talk pages, not here. Your case will be strong if you have multiple WP:SECONDARY ↗ reliable sources, rather than just the WP:PRIMARY ↗ source (the letter on the Committee website). Cheers! '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 21:00, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
::::" EnlightenedIllusions (talk) 21:12, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::Did you look for it before you deleted? EnlightenedIllusions (talk) 21:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
::::::I did not. The WP:ONUS ↗ is on you. '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 18:00, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::::You asked! <nowiki>https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/grill</nowiki> EnlightenedIllusions (talk) 18:12, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
::::::::OCTOBER 12TH 2020! U.S. COMMITTEE of the JUDICIARY. Downloadable! EnlightenedIllusions (talk) 18:15, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::Staight from the source. EnlightenedIllusions (talk) 18:18, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::I emailed Mr. Graham. The response was he is only responsible for answering questions from members of his State. Feinstein... I will never speak to Amy Kremer for good reason. EnlightenedIllusions (talk) 18:35, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::Per WP:ONUS ↗ verifiability does not guarantee inclusion. I'd suggest you read Wikipedia policies on WP:PRIMARY ↗ and WP:SECONDARY ↗ sources as I think you have some confusion there. And again, please take your arguments for inclusion to an article talk page ↗ and not my personal talk page. Cheers! '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 19:22, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::I guess facts don't matter! EnlightenedIllusions (talk) 19:24, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::This is news!!! Roll the tape! EnlightenedIllusions (talk) 19:25, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::::It might be news, but this is an encyclopedia, not a news site ↗. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:11, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Welcome to the drive!

Welcome, welcome, welcome BBQboffin! I'm glad that you are joining the
drive ↗! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.
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Blake Masters

You're removing sourced information from the lead and claiming it's a BLP violation. That's a blatant and transparent excuse for wanting to minimize sourced info that you find "negative" in Masters' article's lead. Talk it to talk, indeed. I think you'll find few editors sympathetic to a politician who hangs around with white supremacists. There are many articles that ID their subjects as white supremacists in the lead, and we're not even talking about that here. Fred Zepelin (talk) 03:52, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

:Per WP:LEDE ↗ we don't need inline sources there since it it supposed to summarize the article, and the source I "removed" is retained in the appropriate section. How to write the lede (and the rest of the article) in a dispassionate manner that accurately and fairly uses the sources is a discussion best had on the consensus talk page. '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 04:51, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
:: There's a talk page discussion, and you didn't initiate it. You haven't taken part in the talk page discussion that was initiated by another editor. You've continued to try to soften the well-documented support Masters has shown for white supremacists and other far-right fringe figures. What's your goal here? Fred Zepelin (talk) 20:05, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
:::I didn't create the discussion because the WP:ONUS ↗ is on the editor that wants to add the disputed content. When one was created, I responded herehttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABlake_Masters&diff=1210052247&oldid=1209921971 ↗ and you can see from the timestamp that my response predates your erroneous accusation above that I "haven't taken part in the talk page discussion", when in fact, I had. What is my goal here? My goal here is to build an encyclopedia in accordance with policy, and your edit appeared to me to be NPOV and BLP violations and to overstate what the sources say.
:::Also, I suggest you temper your expectations that editors will respond within hours to a discussion. Most of us, myself included, are busy IRL and we volunteer as our time allows. Let's go to the talk page and WP:FOC ↗, and in the coming days, weeks, months and indeed, WP:TENYEARS ↗ we'll see what consensus emerges about the content you want to see added. Cheers! '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 01:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
:::: What's your goal here? Fred Zepelin (talk) 01:37, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::Already answered above. What's yours? '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 03:46, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

February 2024

25px|alt=Information icon ↗ Hello, I'm Fred Zepelin. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, :Andrei Cherny ↗, but you didn't provide a reliable source ↗. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation ↗ and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners ↗. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you.  Fred Zepelin (talk) 04:26, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

:As you are fully aware, I added content from a Fortune ↗ article written by Andrei Cherney ↗ who is the article subject. That his editorial was published in the magazine is significant to his biography, and I believe the content regarding his executive decision to set the minimum wage of his company to $25/hour that I added from the article was appropriate to improve the page, so I added it back, along with the original citation.
:And please refrain from making further comments on my talk page. '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 04:44, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

A word on edit summaries

Please read WP:REVTALK ↗: "Edit summaries are not for explaining every detail, writing essays about "the truth", or long-winded arguments with fellow editors. For discussions, you should use the talk page." You appear to be doing the opposite at Andrei Cherny ↗. Fred Zepelin (talk) 04:38, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Andrei_Cherny&diff=1210136932&oldid=1210119834 ↗ and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Andrei_Cherny&diff=1210137259&oldid=1210137132 ↗ show the edit summaries I made. My first edit summary was: {{tq|The Fortune editorial is written by Cherny himself; he is the article subject, and so the inclusion is improves the biography. See talk page as this was a suggested addition by another editor.}} and then I make a correction with a second (dummy edit) to say: {{tq|Correction to my previous comment: the Fortune source was posted on the talk page by another editor, not the specific addition of the "minimum wage" content.}} I made a mistake with the first comment and so I wanted to quickly correct it so as not to misrepresent the other editor. '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 04:54, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
:: Exactly. For all of that, you should have used the talk page. You have explained how you literally did the opposite of WP:REVTALK ↗. Fred Zepelin (talk) 19:59, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
:::Again, please refrain from making further comments to my talk page per WP:USERTALKSTOP ↗. '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 03:20, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

My bad

I thought I was reverting a diff between two edits; I believe I was actually looking at a diff between an earlier edit and "current" and restored that instead, my mistake. Fred Zepelin (talk) 03:11, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Blake Master and Quotes

You're getting into WP:TENDENTIOUS ↗ territory now, and you're doing it over a piece of text that doesn't even show up in the article text. Ask yourself if it's worth getting blocked over. This will serve as your warning, if I (god forbid) have to report this nonsense. Fred Zepelin (talk) 11:44, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
:: That insinuation without clear evidence is itself “inflammatory”, per WP:AOTE ↗. Report what you feel you must, but I think you’ll be shooting yourself in the WP:FOOT ↗. The two other editors involved in the discussionshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Blake_Masters#2024_House_Campaign_alleged_BLP_and_NPOV_violation_removal ↗ suggested you “focus on content, not contributors” and “clear the slate with a strike and or apology” for your personal attacks.https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fred_Zepelin&oldid=1224826980#Careful ↗ But instead of doing either, you went to another article where your first-ever edit there was to revert me https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Andrei_Cherny&diff=prev&oldid=1210119834 ↗ and then you templated me with an inapplicable warning message.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BBQboffin#February_2024 ↗

::Per WP:USERTALKSTOP ↗: {{tq|repeatedly posting on a user's page after being asked not to, without good reason, may be seen as harassment or a similar kind of disruptive behavior.}} I have asked you twice before to stop posting herehttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ABBQboffin&diff=1210139356&oldid=1210138700 ↗https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ABBQboffin&diff=1210737930&oldid=1210736842 ↗ and you have violated my requests. If you do it again, I will view it as harassment and ask that you be blocked. '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 22:08, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

1953/Katie Porter

Saw you re-added ↗ these statements which I had removed for not reflecting the citations. Could you please clarify what citation you are using for '''"the first Democrat to represent the 45th district or its predecessors since it was created in 1953"'''?

I reviewed the two sources provided.

The closest I can find is: '''"it is smack in the middle of the once reliably conservative Orange County, in California’s Forty-fifth Congressional District, which has voted Republican since it was created, in the early nineteen-eighties"''' from the New Yorker citation.

ABC7 just notes that she is the first Democrat to hold the 45th district (which isn't particularly relevant without explanation since the district was Riverside based before redistricting).

Possible I'm missing something but I'm not seeing the verification on this? Dcpoliticaljunkie (talk) 13:01, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

:Thanks; I don't see 1953 in those sources either, but the districts do get redrawn, so someone could argue that the 1980's district isn't the same as the 1953 district. I just now added ↗ a David Lightman article from the Sacramento Beehttps://web.archive.org/web/20230508044658/https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/election/california-elections/article271425827.html ↗ to the page that says {{tq|Porter was elected to Congress in 2018 by defeating two-term incumbent Mimi Walters, the first time since the district was created in 1953 that a Democrat won.}} Cheers! '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 16:41, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks! I do still find the date suspect. Looks like we had the 1953 date in the article for a while without a citation for it, so it seems likely that the Sacramento Bee article relied on Wikipedia so this might be a case of circular referencing. That said, California did gain 7 seats in 1950 redistricting including an Orange County, although why we would trace any of the 45th, 48th, 46th, 47th, or 49th specifically to that seat is beyond me (they all flipped ↗). Dcpoliticaljunkie (talk) 19:02, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
:::The page used to say the predecessor district in 1953 was the 28th, but the statement was unsourced. I'm not a stickler for the 1953 date; you could change it to 1982 which would match the California%27s_45th_congressional_district ↗ page. But Porter's historic flipping (and holding) of the deep red seat is noted by many sources, and I think it's of biographical importance to include on her page as well as being lede-worthy. '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 19:33, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
::::It does seem as if her district is the descendant of the 28th although that's just individual research at this point. I think focusing on the flip of a seat in a deep-red county rather than a detailed discussion of the seat's ancestry is the way to go here. Might take a stab at this later. Dcpoliticaljunkie (talk) 20:24, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::Let me know if you have any concerns about this edit ↗. Dcpoliticaljunkie (talk) 20:32, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::Looks good to me. Cheers! '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 20:36, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

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:Thanks and I see the page is now speedy-deleted based on my PROD request: "Useless redirect as no one is wearing "plants" to church unless a Carmen Miranda fan converts to the LDS and wears a fruit hat on Sunday morning. When I created the page I made a typo for "pants", but for some reason this silly page is still here. Maybe I shouldn't have picked Palm Sunday for the PROD, but here goes." Cheers! '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 06:00, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

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:Thank you! I was happy and relieved today to see the 2186 eclipse article ↗ was closed as Keep. '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 20:52, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Dad joke ↗

<s>Pl look again at your revert of my edit, which consisted solely of adding 2 x "not a typo" templates i plain text. I can't see that these affect any list. Ingratis (talk) 17:37, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</s>As you were - I see it now. The string beginning with # shows up as a typo, but clearly "not a typo" is not the tool to use to deal with it. Ingratis (talk) 17:46, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

:Maybe there's some specific syntax to use the "not a typo" template but not have the "#" render the numeric list? '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 20:11, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
::There may well be - I'll experiment (on my own pages). At the end of the day, it's not a big deal just to leave it. All best, Ingratis (talk) 21:30, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

November 2024

Sheehy
Thanks for your edits.

This is in the 10/28 Hulse NYT article. "...married to a former Marine officer with whom he shares four children being home-schooled outside Bozeman." I'll add. Activist (talk) 02:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

:Good find! '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 05:35, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

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Hi BBQboffin, you've helped improve the Tim Sheehy ↗ article a lot, and I appreciated your feedback on his legislative activities. I posted an edit request with some details about his military service and I hoped you would take a look at it here ↗. Thanks so much! Clarkfork79 (talk) 13:12, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks; frankly, I was hoping an editor with more experience with military service and awards would input the material, as I'm unsure how more weight should be given to that as it's already a large component of the article. '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 04:42, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{u|BBQboffin}}, I appreciate this. Talk:Tim_Sheehy ↗ doesn't seem to get much traffic and you have been involved in editing there in the past, so it seemed logical to reach out to you first. I hear your concern. I tried to base my request on the weight given in the sourcing. Perhaps going through those briefly could help inform your decision? To me they do seem to paint the Navy as a significant part of Sheehy's life and career. I did a bit of browsing now through relevant categories on Wikipedia as well, and it does seem that biographies' military career sections tend to include things like rank, awards, and places served, if that's helpful. Thanks again for your time on this. Clarkfork79 (talk) 16:15, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

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:The ANI discussion is archived here ↗. '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 06:04, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

Arabella Advisors

Dispute opened. Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#Arabella Advisors ↗ Julian in LA (talk) 21:31, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

:Dispute closed without prejudice on 05:26, 16 November 2025 "due to at least two problems with the filing", archived here ↗. '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 06:09, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

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Ilhan Omar

Please join the discussion at the talk page rather than reverting again, as your edit-summary suggested. I have already had to block one editor for repeatedly adding that section. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) ↗ 18:51, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks, I added my comment and some sources to the talk page as you suggested, and will see what consensus develops before I add anything back to the article. I was surprised at your decision to give a first-offending violator '''a one-month block''', giving that you are personally involved with the content dispute discussion. Your action appears to me to conflict with Wikipedia:Edit warring#Administrator guidance ↗ which says, "Where a block is appropriate, '''24 hours is common for a first offense'''" and "Administrators should not normally use their tools in matters in which they are personally involved (for example, in a content dispute in which they are a party)." '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 02:07, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

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:I keep getting "notices" like this, but when I go to the noticeboard, the discussion isn't there. Could you please post the correct link to this one, and to the prior ones you've left? And kindly sign your posts to my talk page? Thanks. '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 19:41, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

:Well I guess you're not going to do it, so I went back and found the (now archived) discussions and added the links so I can find them later. '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 07:23, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

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:thumb|251x251px|Or not. 5 more whacks should do it! ↗
:Thanks for the notification, but consider reading WP:DROPTHESTICK ↗ or WP:DOGGY ↗. Every Wikipedian has "been there" where our preferred version of a page is not what the consensus is, but trying to get the page deleted and/or a half dozen editors blocked isn't a collaborative response. '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 02:00, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
::Discussion is archived here ↗ with no action taken. Essentially the same content dispute being raised for a 4th time. '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 05:52, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

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:Ouch, well that wasn't the sort of page protection I was requesting.https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection/Increase&diff=prev&oldid=1325294143 ↗ I thought my clearly-labeled edit summarieshttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carroll_Fife&diff=prev&oldid=1325289808 ↗https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carroll_Fife&diff=prev&oldid=1325290534 ↗https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carroll_Fife&diff=prev&oldid=1325293139 ↗ such as {{tq|''"No, they are violations of our WP:BLP policy and editors are obligated to 'Remove immediately any contentious material about a living person that is unsourced or poorly sourced' which is what I'm doing"''}} gave me a WP:3RRBLP ↗ exemption, but upon re-reading the WP policy more closely, I see that I should not have relied on that. Sorry, I goofed. I added a new talk page section here ↗ to the Carroll Fife ↗ article and will create a thread on the BLP noticeboard once the page is unlocked to try to get more eyes on it. Sorry again for causing trouble, and thank you for your past and present work to improve the project. '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 06:48, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

Open Secrets

Thank you for expressing a view about the reliability of OpenSecrets at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Is "OpenSecrets" / the Center for Responsive Politics reliable? ↗. Several editors in that discussion distinguish between the databases at OpenSecrets, and their reporting/analysis. I've created a format there to allow you to do the same, if you would like to weigh in on each. Thank you! Novellasyes (talk) 21:56, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

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Sarah Saltzberg ↗

I'm 2 degrees of separation from the subject, so I'm not getting involved with either a Prod2 or Deprod, but I did alert the Theater project. Bearian (talk) 01:31, 7 February 2026 (UTC)

:Thanks! '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 16:41, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
::Hi @BBQboffin, I have deproded this article as the subject was profiled by the NYT in 2018https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/10/realestate/brokers-with-a-song-and-dance.html ↗ and she's been a significant contributor to several shows on and off-Broadway in addition to ''Spelling Bee'', which are well covered in the press. You're welcome to bring it to AfD, of course. —BrechtBro (talk) 18:29, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
:::Wow, thanks for adding that NYT source to the article! She looks notable to me based on that. Cheers! '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 06:48, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

Halloween Martin ↗

Thanks your interest on the talk page notes for Halloween Martin ↗, but I think you misunderstood the problem. Leona Alford Malek ↗ worked at the same company as Martin. That’s not OR. What would be OR is to call her a mentor. Also, Prudence Penny is already linked. It is not OR to add a notable co-worker who worked in the same industry to an article. The see also section can be used to point readers to related topics as well as a holding pen for links that need to be merged into the body. Nothing remotely OR here. Viriditas (talk) 19:47, 10 February 2026 (UTC)
:I self-reverted my edit in the See Also section. You make a good argument that since we're not making any direct claim that Malek was the particular Prudence Penny (it seems much more likely than not, of course) it is OK to include the link. '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 20:11, 10 February 2026 (UTC)
::No worries. I understand what happened now. The adding of the link triggered a message on your end because you had it on your watchlist as the primary contributor to that article. I didn't know that before. The article is somewhat new, so I will either end up deleting the links entirely or merging them into the body if I can find sources. Viriditas (talk) 20:33, 10 February 2026 (UTC)

'''Update''': Looks like it is confirmed.https://digicol.lib.depaul.edu/digital/collection/p15448coll1/id/29462/rec/1 ↗ Viriditas (talk) 00:41, 28 February 2026 (UTC)

:Wow, fantastic work on this page! '''BBQ''''''boffin'''grill me 04:05, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

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