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September 2025


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Small, sequential minor edits



Thanks for your wikilinks! If you're adding a lot to the same section of an article it's easier on the page history if you make them all in one go, rather than sequentially. You can use the "Preview" button if you want to check how they'll look before proceeding.

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:Avoids edit conflicts & less stressful having to find the location continuously - the save function gives a small rest: for the eyes and for thought Cattenion (talk) 14:29, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

Image at Algorithm ↗



The image at that article was a diagram showing the Euclidean algorithm. That image was fine, though the text in it was hard to read (and widely spaced).

I had replaced it with my own version, containing the same text, except without the weird letter spacing. Yet for some reason you undid that edit. Could I ask why is that? Thank you in advance. БудетЛучше (talk) 18:30, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

:en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Algorithm&oldid=1310596457
::s zero
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::(t)he value of r
:error: t isn't shown Cattenion (talk) 20:53, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
::true. i’ll fix the image to fit it. thank you! БудетЛучше (talk) 12:07, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

October 2025



25px|alt=Information icon ↗ Hello. I have noticed that you {{usertalk other|often ↗|often}} edit without using an edit summary ↗. Please do your best to {{strong|always fill in the summary field}}. This helps your fellow editors use their time more productively, rather than spending it unnecessarily scrutinizing and verifying your work. Even a short summary is better than no summary, and summaries are particularly important for large, complex, or potentially controversial edits. To help yourself remember, you may wish to check the "prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" box in your preferences ↗. Thanks! <!-- Template:Uw-editsummary2 --> Zefr (talk) 23:52, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

:If a peer-review process is thought better for everyone - this would need a review of the edit - an edit summary as trusted doesn't include the possibility of article error - like a judge giving a verdict without looking at the evidence - I thought not putting in a summary would force editors to have to review the edit - this is a guarantee of resolution of any problem in the reality of the article - but also by looking at the article again it restimulates any interested editor (those who are watching) to maybe make another improvement - everytime looking at the summary as the only input isn't reliable - summary not article input is repeat summary learning which could be thought as irrelevant to the reality of any important subject; is my defence - I think you'll insist again on "good editing" - but your "unnecessarily scrutinizing and verifying" is erroneous I think. Cattenion (talk) 00:56, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
::You're missing the point. See WP:EDITCON ↗ which states ''"All edits should be explained (unless the reason for them is obvious)—either by clear edit summaries, or by discussion on the associated talk page. Substantive, informative explanations indicate what issues must be addressed in subsequent efforts to reach consensus"'' -- it is a matter of building consensus for the edit -- and by WP:FIES ↗: ''"Accurate summaries help other contributors decide whether they want to review an edit, and to understand the change should they choose to review it."'' Zefr (talk) 22:51, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

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:You are simply a cruel and insensitive threatening editor - "If you continue to move pages to bad titles contrary to naming conventions or consensus" - I made the choice trying to make an improvement - and once! not ''continue'' your behaviour in my direction is simply a type of harrasment -what exactly is the need of consensus from adding:
:* A history of the relevant word
:*A link to "wholemeal"
:*To delete "minimally processed" from Mediterranean diet because: this is obvious if the condition: it is ''a wholefood diet'' it isn't necessary to mention it is minimally processed
:These are constructive changes so it is you who is being disruptive not me
:The only other change I made eas to move a sentence to a new subheading "Benefits of wholefood based diets" and created and linked "cardiovascular" - I think this isn't a problem and you shouldn't have a problem with it either. What is your actual problem!!!
:Cattenion (talk) 21:28, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
:And what do suppose I try and understand about "take a break and allow other editors to contribute" since there is a 16 hours + non editing 04:17 - 20:51 - I would hope to have some beneficial input from you but again I have to try and understand something which you assert in my direction which doesn't represent reality on closer investigation. There isn't any reason in indicating to me a problem if the reality of the problem isn't the thing which you think it is - how I'm stopping you making any edits to the article? go ahead and make your change -s am I continuously editing ? - no - so where is the reality in your problem? ask yourself that. Cattenion (talk) 21:39, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
::By "take a break", I mean you could go to some other area of the 7 million English articles on Wikipedia for a week or two, and edit there. You behavior has become disruptive, and you are not collaborating in a constructive way. Further disruption will get you reported to admin for review. Zefr (talk) 21:54, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

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:{{talk page watcher}} Hey, why is this a higher-level warning? I don't see any previous warnings for inappropriate talk use. Seems excessive. 🫀 <span style="color:maroon;">'''Crash // Organhaver'''</span> (<span style="color:darkred;">talk to me, maybe?</span>) 02:39, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks for noticing this problem - but I think perhaps it could be stress which causes any errors - it is a human characteristic to make a human error ↗ - infallibility is difficult - I think Zefr was somewhat harsh but: I forget this problem now and hopefully will return to a more collaborative environment sometime in the future. I did look through Zefr's contribution list and find alot of reversions and criticism which supported my frustrated notion Zefr was only being overly-critical but also then found some contributory changes - and Zefr states / does have a PhD so I then put aside the quandries of frustration. Anyone would hope someone (like Zefr) could exhibit the desired consideration and caring attitude to others but in reality it is not possible in life is not like that and perhaps the harshness of life is inescapable for us all (like children we hope for niceness and easiness - but thinking in a real way we know now this isn't possible in this world (*with violence and bad behaviours - a type of moral darkness) and universe (which does contain alot of unsupportive dark spaces and unhabitable planets). Although a little consideration is good and I wish Zefr would think more of my position than Zefr's own - the most important thing is solving the problem of the article which time could be used to help us all here and all the species: Whole foods is an essenetial health subject which could help give us all more health longevity and power while we are all here on Earth living. Cattenion (talk) 03:29, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
:::Jesus Christ. Okay. Did not expect an entire analysis. And you bring it back to Whole Foods. Impressive. 🫀 <span style="color:maroon;">'''Crash // Organhaver'''</span> (<span style="color:darkred;">talk to me, maybe?</span>) 03:33, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

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:"means that people can check that facts or claims correspond to reliable sources" indicates the source doesn't qualify as verifiable as I can't "check that the facts" as it isn't possible to view the source Cattenion (talk) 01:41, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
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I noticed you introduced links to Sanger's "nine theses" userspace essay to his biography article ↗. Please note that links to pages outside the article namespace should be avoided in articles ↗.

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:"In articles, do not link to pages outside the article namespace, including draft articles, except in ''articles about Wikipedia itself'' (and even in that case with care – see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Self-references to avoid)." Cattenion (talk) 08:04, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
::That is correct. A good example of this "except in articles about Wikipedia itself" exception would be that a search term like "Five pillars of Wikipedia ↗" takes you to the article titled Wikipedia ↗, which has a link to the Wikipedia policy. Other examples include Wikipedia administrators ↗ having a link to Wikipedia:Administrators ↗, or Arbitration Committee (Wikipedia) ↗ having a link to Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee ↗. The non-article-space links are sparingly used, very directly about the topic, are found in articles directly about Wikipedia itself, and link to the Wikipedia space.
::Larry Sanger's biography page is less directly ''about Wikipedia''. It's about Larry Sanger. We don't really do things like {{tq|"[...] stating: "Admins and those with significant authority ↗ in the system [...]"}} linking mid-quote to a Userspace essay (this is an example of easter egg link ↗), especially not when neither of the sources cited (Larry's personal blog post & the article mentioning it) were about or even mentioned his "theses." He wrote that quote about the Heritage Foundation before he ever wrote the theses, after all. I hope this explanation makes sense.
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Day



I reverted your edit ↗ to Day ↗. You've confused rotation with respect to the Sun with rotation with respect to distant stars. They are not the same. This is discussed at Earth's rotation ↗. -- Srleffler (talk) 05:36, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

:As a matter of fact I had already read the part "stellar day sidereal day" - if you notice the quote: "the sidereal day is shorter than the stellar day" - the word "day" is used in both contexts. The sentence part (which was my version) "relative to a full rotation of the Earth with respect to the Sun which is 23 hours 56 minutes and 4 seconds approximately" doesn't include the necessary information to make the differenc apparent so though is erroneous in the context of the sentence structure. Cattenion (talk) 07:57, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
:Probably should mention the fact "day" is applicable as both time periods - since it is the reality (as greater day 24 hours lesser day 23 56 4 - less people use - think of as a day). Cattenion (talk) 08:07, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
::We do have two names for these concepts. The 24-hour one is a day ↗. The shorter one is a sidereal day ↗.--Srleffler (talk) 14:30, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
:::Yes - but no: Day is solar day ↗ Cattenion (talk) 14:47, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
:::Currently Day is in common parlance day without the solar as only astronomers have the discretion of sidereal or solar. In the future when people colonize wherever (Mars) everyday parlance Martian day is everyday in ... v.estimated 1000 (max) years - time-period for longterm/permanent camps/habitations on Mars. Recognizing solar isn't all prepares humanity for the adaption / culture shock ↗. Although Day is very closely bonded semantically to 24hours since astronomy day is 23 hours 56 4 secs and the possibility of Martian day personally for a group of people - day doesn't strictly mean 24 and is simply when the sun is at the same place - on any planet - stating day is 24 hours is an error in that regard. In a more extended future if people live past Mars (where I don't know - too cold / toxic / radiation - no moons to live on perhaps) - the amount of light is insufficient for daylight to be a significant experience to think the Sun is as important as a measure / determination. Cattenion (talk) 15:04, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
::::Actually NASA missions to Mars measure time in sols ↗, which are martian solar days (24 hours, 39 minutes, 35 seconds). When there is a rover active on Mars the mission team ''live'' on Mars time. --Srleffler (talk) 02:51, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

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:The source doesn't show 58% Cattenion (talk) 20:23, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

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:Okay Cattenion (talk) 19:31, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Infinity



{{ping|Paul August}} You deleted the section again...I would think it intuitively obvious that "larger than any natural number" isn't true - which I thought the section demonstrated - I thought it not necessary to provide sources as the proof is included in the argument - it's a philosophical argument. Is obvious because if the largest possible natural number is n then infinity isn't n+1 - which I could have written instead. Cattenion (talk) 15:49, 12 December 2025 (UTC) I mean "l t a n n" someone wrote that and thought it was true - so I wasn't sure if it was true or not - the section was my proof to myself or anyone else ltann isn't true - having the section exist allows for someone to provide a contrary argument - or support.Cattenion (talk) 15:52, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
:Hi Cattenion. I'm glad that you've decided to discuss this here (rather than reverting again), so thanks! Our article does not say that infinity is {{tq|larger than any natural number}}, where are you getting that quote from? In any case, ''considered as a number'' infinity ''is'' larger than any natural number. You seem to think that this is false, and your argument, which seems to be: {{tq|if the largest possible natural number is n then infinity isn't n+1}}, does not prove it false. Paul August &#9742; ↗ 16:25, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
::this version ↗ I deleted 23:05, 11 Dec Cattenion (talk) 21:32, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
::The argument I made is in Talk ↗, n + 1 is not the reason I gave for the article change - it is an adjunct argument. {{tq|Considered as a number infinity is larger than any natural number}} / {{tq|infinity is larger than any natural number}} - My argument was: if in the reality of the universe and the infintely distant universe - larger than is like a motion in a direction not a singular position. Larger than any number is a continuum of motion to larger - so accepting that always larger than is dynamic not static the scale of motion must be that the motion is sufficient that the number as a position is unobservable / invisible. From the 1st consideration larger than makes a continuous +1 state i.e. a motion - but infinity is not any of the positions in the motion there is no knowable singular position in the larger +1 motion to place infinity at. So the two statements I made: ''larger than is a motion'' - ''infinity is unobservable / invisible'' ("invisible" is wrong actually)
::Continuing the argument to provide different argument details not made at Talk: There is no-way to know what infinity is as if it boundless=has no boundaries then has no dimensions. Infinity cannot be both larger than any natural number and boundless at the same time. From the perspective of Earth stating is larger than surely seems true because - in distance away from Earth infinity is always more distant. But this idea doesn't include any explanation of the reality of how it is possible infinity exists. Secondarily - although it seems true to state - infinity is larger than any number, science cannot prove the largeness - there will never in any timescale or permutation / different possible future reality of the species be a way to prove how large infinity is - so it impossible to state by observation "larger than" is true - it is simply a convicing argument from an Earthly perspective. Since it is unprovable then firstly it could be a trick of thought to think it true, a conceit or an eristic conviction. When any human thiinks of the universe - expansion and the dimensions then the distances of Earth extend outward and the result is the idea of infinity - like an imaginary line extending from Earth outward it continues forever. But infinity defies explanation in physics so although mathematics seem to provide a physical statement - largeness - it isn't provable in the methods of science of physics of which largeness is a subject of - in the sense it is a description of something physical. Cattenion (talk) 22:59, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
::On Earth and in observation of the universe it is possible to prove something anything is larger than some other thing but it is completely impossible to prove by the same methods of observation the infinite universe is larger than some other thing becuse there isn't any other thing that is a distinct defined entity to compare it with - there is only the idea that is larger than a smaller number in a continuum motion towards largeness. So it's meaningless to state it is larger than in a universe where smaller larger have names ascribed to them (for example the largest structure observed in the universe _______(has an astronomical name). Cattenion (talk) 23:09, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
::With regards to n + 1. If a computer is tasked with computing unceasingly incresingly larger numbers - if at any time a display of the current number processed is made - infinity isn't that number + 1 (which is larger). The moment the computer displays the number infinity is at an accelerated motion from that number to unobservable - not an unobservable number simply an unobservable state - if at a minute time instant before the universe ends and the computer is still running and a display is made - that completely unimaginably large number - infinity would again be unobservable at an accelerated distance from that number (if the number is the distnce from Earth). Is only the same as stating uncountable - so then cannot ever be shown practically to be larger in the whole future of the universe and lifespan of the human species. Cattenion (talk) 23:27, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
::I think simply: you and others would state "larger than" but I would state "is unknowable therefore cannot be larger than" Cattenion (talk) 23:31, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
::If someone draws a straight line on a page on the table they are looking at and extends the line outward through the universe - if a computer then is tasked to create an ordinal - the smallest is perhaps a sub-stomic particle (I don't know) that smallest measurement of length is in the line - as the line extends out it creates ordinals of larger - infinity is never at the other end of the line - i.e. infinity never connects to the line (or it would be a number + 1 = infinity). Instead of thinking - infinity is ''at the other end of the line'' (which proves it is the larger) instead thinking it can ''never be connected to the line'' - proves it has no largeness Cattenion (talk) 00:15, 13 December 2025 (UTC) Always at the end of the line there is a number which is the larger number but infinity is never connected to the number Cattenion (talk) 15:30, 13 December 2025 (UTC) ----- Another way to imagine - if we're looking at a vertical line on a page - and the line is the end of a horizontal line moving rightwards through the universe - to the left of the vertical line the numbers are increasing to the right of the line is towards infinity - there aren't any numbers on the right of the line, or, any number on the right of the vertical line is smply added to all the numbers on the left of the line. Infinity is on the right of thr line - but travelling forever rightways all the numbers always accumulate on the left of the line. Cattenion (talk) 19:27, 13 December 2025 (UTC)
::If we just state the minimal distance (ignoring decimations) is "1" and also the current furthest distance moved or travelled from Earth (the largest distance - of an imaginary line or ship in motion) is: 1. The front of a ship in motion is: 1. In front of the ship is 0 because the ship hasn't arrived at that position. If the motion of the ship in it's trajectory ignoring necessary navigations in the universe is inevitable=certain every 0="1"=:1. Infinity in the direction of motion is in the direction of 0=1. Except if the ship were to travel at the fastest speed possible in all possible realities of the future forever / until the end of the universe the amount of progress the ship would make, change, compared to a point to point travel, towards infinity, is zero. So for any distance out forever all 0's=1, except for infinity, the 0=0. Infact the amount of difference travelling at lightspeed (if lightspeed is the fastest) in the direction of infinity forever/the end of the universe makes with regards to change in proximacy to infinity is the same as if something or someone is completely motionless, both zero. So if the difference is zero in both situations - in the context of motionless = not towards infinity, if there isn't any attempt to make a measurement towards infinity - i.e. any increasing length is a type of motion in a direction from zero (let's say "A") to the distance measured, a number (let's say "B") - if no measurement is made the amount of difference is A - at any time whether in motion towards or still. Cattenion (talk) 19:44, 14 December 2025 (UTC)
:::We don't allow original research ↗ on Wikipedia for good reason. This type of speculative argument is never going to be any use here. All anyone will care about here is whether or not the text in the article is supported by reliable sources ↗. One editor's philosophical opinion on the nature of infinity is simply not relevant to our mission. --Srleffler (talk) 03:52, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

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:okay Cattenion (talk) 13:04, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

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25px|alt=icon ↗ Please stop your disruptive editing ↗.
If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at :Bread ↗, you may be blocked from editing ↗. ''Use the talk page to justify your changes. Your editing is careless and excessive.''<!-- Template:uw-disruptive3 --> Zefr (talk) 00:42, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

:Well I didn't see your indication "Talk Page" at the time. You know? I think it would be good if you might consider the reasons I gave in the summary - to be honest you are the disruptive editor at least with regards to the sources I used simply don't indicate the information I showed - as I summarized in the changes + the sources you used don't indicate the information you included - you don't see that? Cattenion (talk) 00:46, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
:Why you always think - your version supercedes my version then we argue that the version should me mine from the reality being yours? Can ypou answer that question? I gave good reasons in the summary but you simply reverted using Talk page. As much as I can perceive you simply ignored the information in the sources I used to push forwards your version. Cattenion (talk) 00:48, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
::You are a novice editor who has created scrutiny, feedback and criticism from admins and several experienced editors, as displayed here on your talk page.
::You should slow down and pay more attention to WP:MOS ↗ and WP:CIT ↗ which you violate in most of your edits. You also appear to be stubborn to learn from other editors, but rather ignore their points and example writing rather than adopting a more careful style. Zefr (talk) 00:59, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
:::Well that maybe could be partially true - but I'm not sure where exactly I fail to deliver citation correctly - I always provide a source + input all the information - is there some problem specifically with citation you could indicate - an example ? Cattenion (talk) 01:03, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
::::You wrote:
::::At some time the Old English ↗ was brēotan <ref name=OU01012026>{{cite web|author=Oxford University ↗: Oxford English Dictionary ↗|url=https://www.oed.com/dictionary/bread_n?tab=etymology|title=bread noun Etymology|publisher=OUP ↗}}</ref> or brēad. <ref name=UOM01022026>{{cite web|url=https://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/middle-english-dictionary/dictionary/MED5873|title=Middle English Compendium|publisher=University of Michigan ↗}}</ref>
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::::The statement iself is not informative or useful. Both sources are undated by the publisher and do not have an access-date. The OED ref is not an "author" but a publisher only. The title of the Michigan ref is "brēd", which should have the English word "Bread" in parenth. The first word of the title should be capitalized per MOS. In both refs (and all your ref edits), you ignore WP:REFPUNCT ↗ which instructs to end the statement with a punctuation mark, followed by the ref without a space.
::::As stated, you have not spent enough time with MOS, so apparently you have not learned these simple style rules. I do not want to spend time teaching an editor who has spent insufficient time learning how to use Wikipedia. Zefr (talk) 01:22, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

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Hi! I noticed that you made this edit ↗. The citations you referred to were removed in this edit ↗, which also introduced cite errors, so I cleaned that up and updated the casualties table while I was at it. I'm not sure what you mean by authority control, but hopefully this context helps you implement whatever changes are necessary. <span style="color: #35b794">'''I'''seult</span><span style="color: #3558b7;"><sup>'' Δx '' ↗</sup>talk to me</span> 19:38, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

25px|alt=Information icon ↗ Please do not insert your opinions into article as you did it in e.g., Death ↗ and Phoenix company ↗. Please read and understand out most fundamental policies, WP:CITE ↗ and WP:RS ↗. --Altenmann ↗ >talk ↗ 19:37, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

:I think discussion of those issues could be made at the talk pages there - if you ping me. I reviewed "Phoenix company" - I think using a source to add content as I did cannot be classed as "my opinion" by anyone reasonably if the content I chose to add resembles the source sufficiently that there isn't any factual difference - which is the case I'm sure - though if you'd like to review these factors and find an alternative reality that supports your criticism I would be interested to read of. In your choice you have removed a source so the statement is unsourced again (is your choice) - how no source at all has any reliability or evidence based proof attached ? tell me that. With regards to the reliability of Isadore Goldman which is not a notable company (no wikipedia article) I would think the probability the anyone-someone from that organisation who wrote the source in their professional capacity would have some reliability (failure wouldn't ensure continued employment is the nature of the reliability I indicate) - though I don't have a principle to take such sources and routinely usually of course take university professors. Cattenion (talk) 21:12, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

30px|alt=Stop icon ↗ Please stop restoring incorrect texts as you did in Death ↗ and Dead Souls (disambiguation) ↗ without discussion. If you continue doing so, you will be bocked from editing. --Altenmann ↗ >talk ↗ 19:43, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

:"Dead Souls" your summary reason "restorng wrong format" while here you state "incorrect texts" - these factors are not the same problem - would you like to be more precise? Are you stating the headings were unacceptable? if so, why you didn't then add the correct headings? Cattenion (talk) 21:16, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

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This is the last warning before the block, and I will express it as strong as I can. Concerning your move of Fock state ↗, which was swiftly reverted: Never do things if you do not have enough competence to deal with them. If you are not sure do not touch them. Here you clearly did something you have no idea about. Ymblanter (talk) 06:01, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

:What exactly do you mean? "have no idea about" specifically what are you referring to; policy or the subject? Cattenion (talk) 20:03, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
:"Never do things if you do not have enough competence to deal with them." is exactly? give details - I see you have some notion of a problem what specifically are you indicating? that I erroneously changed Fock to Fok - is your complete criticism? Cattenion (talk) 20:08, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
:From the tone of your threatening message here I would think my choice requires "as strongly as I can" to be an indication of? the seriousness of? if you look to my changes elsewhere "Fok space" & "Killing vector field" - my changes are improvements of a blatant erroneous previous article situation - you arrive here to threaten me with incompetence - I see you are a qualified physicist - why you didn't detect the errors which I corrected? Cattenion (talk) 20:19, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
:In any case..."Fok" indicated to you I have no competence to understand the subject - but honestly you don't know my personal competencies as you don't know me personally. With regards to necessity of "strong" which is your judgement of the evident seriousness of my error - as a qualified physicist - what is your estimation of the damage done to humanities current knowledge for the time "Fok" was the reality - the loss was? I'm genuinely interested. You see my curiousness - what is your opinion as the self proclaimed competency: why "Fock"? Cattenion (talk) 20:30, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
::Look. I happen to be a professional. I read dozens of books which describe Fock states. I wrote dozens of articles which use or discuss Fock states. I gave talks at international conferences. I lecture quantum mechanics at a university. I have seen "Fock states" written in English several dozen thousands times. Until yesterday, I have seen "Fok states" written in English exactly zero times. And, mind you, my mothertongue is Russian and I know who Fok was and how his name is transliterated. The fact that even now you keep insisting that "Fok state" is a correct spelling means you have no understanding of what you are doing. I see that you have been warned on similar occasions, and even blocked. If I see anything like this again, I will block your account without any further warnings. If you prefer to call this "threatening" without really trying to understand the message, I am afraid I can not help you. However, at this point, you have been warned enough. Ymblanter (talk) 20:40, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
:::"I have seen "Fok states" written in English exactly zero times - my mothertongue is Russian".Ignoring the fact "Fok" is the choice of source ↗ publisher ↗ (the American Institute of Physics ↗), The Great Soviet Encyclopedia, 3rd Edition (1970-1979). 2010 The Gale Group published by thefreedictionary.com ↗ & Steklov Mathematical Institute ↗ RAS: mathnet.ru ↗ the same choice - your stating (and I've seen the zero "states" return of "Fok" ↗) - Steklov would translate the name as -ok but "states" would be translated as -ock? (my earlier indication ↗). "I know who Fok was and how his name is transliterated" so AIP, Steklov, & a non-exhaustative indication of other sources "21:01, 12 April 2026" ↗ - you know & these other sources don't know how to transliterate? "insisting that "Fok state" is a correct spelling means you have no understanding of what you are doing" - you didn't see my 21:01 indication? You're stating all those other sources don't understand what they're doing also? Cattenion (talk) 21:03, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
:::translations through Yandex ↗ (they should know - though since your reality excludes the possibility of Fok, perhaps they don't): Fok=Фок ''Pho'' ↗ Usage examples includes "Mr. Fok", "Professor Fok". Fock=Фок ''fɒk'' ↗ "Mr. Fock" "former Prime Ministers Jeno Fock of Hungary".
:::via Fok (surname) ↗: :ru:Фок, Александр Викторович ↗=Alexander Fok ↗ (also Foch). Seriously though: as I mentioned at "these types of spelling variations in name do occur through time" ↗, very helpfully again!=iask.ai ↗: "The phenomenon describing the tendency of personal names to change, evolve, and generate variants over time is primarily studied within the fields of onomastic ↗s - there is no single "catch-all" term for this process, it is collectively referred to as onomastic evolution ↗, diachronic name change ↗, or phonological ↗ and morphological adaptation ↗" Cattenion (talk) 21:39, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
::::The sources associated were: Crystal, David. The Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English Language. (Print, Cambridge University Press)↩ Hanks, Patrick. Dictionary of American Family Names. (Print, Oxford University Press)↩ - I immediately couldn't verify if these are infact (1) (and subsequently haven't (2)) the iask.ai page had no active links (1), (I don't provide the cause of (2). Cattenion (talk) 21:54, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
:::"an elite uniformed security police force responsible for state security." interesting! not something I knew of previously though. Cattenion (talk) 21:43, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
One thing you seem to be missing is that it is ''not our job'' to correct mistakes in common usage. Arguing that we ''should'' call them "Fok states" is not at all relevant here; it doesn't matter whether your argument is right or wrong, it's just not relevant to how Wikipedia will cover this topic. We name topics based on common usage, and the common term in English is "Fock states". If you want to change that, fine, go argue your case somewhere else. If you can change common usage everywhere, Wikipedia will follow suit. Wikipedia is by policy not the place to achieve a change in common usage.--Srleffler (talk) 01:31, 14 April 2026 (UTC)

Very strong substantiation indeed



Greetings {{u|Cattenion}},

Letting you know that Hashish ↗ doesn't need that many citations in the lead. You can review this Wikipedia custom on citation volume ↗ for a guide—there are some pretty hilarious examples! <span style="font-family:Calibri light; font-variant:small-caps"><span style="color:#00bfff">'''Rebestalic'''</span></span>[[User talk:Rebestalic#bottom|<sup style="color:#228b22;font-family:Calibri">'''[leave a message....]'''</sup>]] 21:29, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

:Perhaps they should be bunched, do you think? They are the proofs - but I suppose they could look like litter I left behind instead - too many numbers! I should tidy up the mess I suppose Cattenion (talk) 21:36, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
:Just need to engage the cite vacuum cleaner ↗; that should do the trick ↗ / do it Cattenion (talk) 21:53, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
::Now that's what I call a speedy reply! Yes, I would think so... don't forget to take a look at the edit history list for that article; you'll see something you can be proud of. <span style="font-family:Calibri light; font-variant:small-caps"><span style="color:#00bfff">'''Rebestalic'''</span></span>[[User talk:Rebestalic#bottom|<sup style="color:#228b22;font-family:Calibri">'''[leave a message....]'''</sup>]] 22:30, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
:::I looked - I see I win the gold medal in "hashish olympics" authorship - but instead of feeling proud I feel meowed (i.e. ow!) because i am paw as paid zilch ↗eroo by wikipedia. I like your suggestion though! i might consider complete re-evaluation of moneys inherent value in the future - which I already have done, which is proven, because I am here now (in the past as your reading this part, and that part also →) - just everyone else who won't give me what I want for free in this world. Cattenion (talk) 22:56, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

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:is nice, thanks! Cattenion (talk) 21:17, 6 July 2026 (UTC)
:Movement, not unmoving - like things that live, I suppose, though the wind, clouds aren't. Cattenion (talk) 21:23, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

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