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<div style="font-family: 'Palatino Linotype', 'Times New Roman', 'serif'; font-size:110%; padding:7px; border:dotted 1px" align="center" title="welcome">Welcome to my talk page :)

In general, I prefer conversations about specific articles to be held on the corresponding article talk pages instead of here, so that other editors can follow them too.

If you are referring to a particular edit, it is best to use a diff link ↗.

I usually reply here. I am often working on several things at the same time, so if I haven't answered yet even though I am online and editing elsewhere, please have some patience - if it is really urgent, prod me with a follow-up message.

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M.Balfas

M.Balfas is my father I lived it and am the best source for the truth Salim Balfas (talk) 09:35, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
:Replied at User talk:Salim Balfas. Regards, HaeB (talk) 13:01, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

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Think my edit was mistakenly deleted

Hi HaeB,

You deleted my edit on Conscientiousness and subjective well-being because I did not add a source. The thing is, a source was already there. You can find the information in the same study that was used in a source for the first sentence. On page 145 you can find a table of the big five personality traits and how they influence subjective well-being.

Link to the edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Conscientiousness&type=revision&diff=1028841253&oldid=1028841123
<small><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding unsigned ↗ comment added by 2a02:a03f:ea7c:8800:edeb:dfb5:ed92:d737 (talk • contribs ↗) 11:13, 16 June 2021 (UTC)</span></small>
:Hi, the revert was intentional - if you reuse a citation that is already in the text, you should communicate that to fellow editors who may be reviewing your change (personally I use something like "per already cited ref" in the edit summary in such cases). I'll also note that you did not update the citation's access date (it still says "Retrieved 2012-07-11"), so even following your logic regarding the article text, one would have had to conclude that you did not actually inspect that source.
:In any case, I appreciate that you have followed up on this now, and thank you for the explanation! Based on this, I was going to reinstate your edit, but on closer inspection there are other issues with it, regarding WP:NOR ↗ in particular. See my notes at Talk:Conscientiousness ↗ (article talk pages are a better place for conversations about the actual article content, so that other editors can weigh in too - see also the note on top of this page.)
:Regards, HaeB (talk) 07:20, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

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User:Chinmay589 keeps vandalizing the page. From his edits, he seems to have a Conflict of Interest with the subject. 103.151.156.81 ↗ (talk) 07:41, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

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This page is so severely out of date that it got tagged for that reason... in 2013. I'd like to improve it, but I don't really know where to look for sources besides Google Scholar. Given your experience monitoring research on WMF wikis, I was wondering whether you were interested in helping, or if you might have ideas on where to look for summaries of scholarly and non-scholarly assessments of Wiktionary. —Μετάknowledge<sup>''discuss/deeds ↗''</sup> 17:04, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

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Hello. You raised some points here ↗ but you didn't get back after that. Please do join the continued discussion if you have time and good will. --阿pp (talk) 05:57, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
:{{Ping|阿pp}} Thank you for your courteous note, it is appreciated. I hadn't gotten to do much editing in recent weeks, but I just left another comment in that discussion.
:Keep in mind that no one is obliged to "get back" in such content discussions, and neither are you obliged to wait for everyone's sign-off. But do expect that if policy violations that had been pointed out earlier remain unresolved, any editor may still take issue with them going forward. Regards, HaeB (talk) 16:54, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

::Thanks for your help on China at the 2020 Summer Olympics ↗, it is interesting that 阿pp hasn't resurfaced since 19 August 2021, while Casualfoodie has been indefinitely blocked. Have noticed that both editors have attempted to blank the disputed content in question (censorship?), later justifying the removal with state-owned media sources, is this a sign of the 50 Cent Party ↗? Have had a similar problem ↗ on the Sun Yang ↗ page. FobTown (talk) 20:04, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

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Started Recent research

I started ''Recent research'' because there were a couple of studies that caught my eye. Hoping you can still do your usual contribs for the upcoming issue. ☆ <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">Bri</span> (talk) 23:09, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Bri}} Great, thank you! Always feel free to start the draft already if you have something to contribute. The only thing I would suggest is to start with the section layout template ↗, and also to check the Etherpad with the current todo list of papers to cover (to note which papers you covered, so as to avoid duplicate effort). The latter should always be linked in the newsroom ↗. (If my note there is still from last month, then that means I haven't yet gotten to create the updated pad with the newest papers - but in that case feel free to leave that note in last month's pad instead.)
:Thanks again for covering these two important items for this issue. Regarding the Google image dataset, I just added mention of the accompanying Kaggle competition and the WMF research team's aims and involvement, as both should be of interest for our readers in particular.
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I just read your explanation of your current and former usernames. Is it a reference to a German folk song ↗ I'm familiar with? ☆ <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">Bri</span> (talk) 15:59, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
:Ah no, a different one (and not - originally - German). Regards, HaeB (talk) 17:24, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

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You might want to comment at Wikipedia:Administrators noticeboard/Incidents ↗. --<span style="color:#F80">Orange Mike</span> | <span style="color:#FA0">Talk</span> 18:26, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Orangemike}} Thank you for raising the issue there! I see it was already handled shortly afterwards. Regards, HaeB (talk) 09:15, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

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Knowledge Graph panels and click-through rates

Hey, we were discussing the other day what impact the Knowledge Graph panels had on Wikipedia click-throughs.

Re-reading Heather's Wikipedia@20 chapter, "The Rise of the Underdog" ↗, just now, I realised that we had both forgotten a part of the history that explained why click-throughs did drop for a while, causing panic at WMF ↗ (see fundraising and Knowledge Graph references on that page – this is the year the WMF started exceeding its fundraising targets).

Heather says, "Soon after Google’s announcement, former head of research at the Wikimedia Foundation, Dario Taraborelli, started taking notice of how Google represented information from Wikipedia in its knowledge panels. One of the first iterations featured a prominent backlink to Wikipedia next to each of the facts under the opening paragraph. There was even reference to the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike license that Wikipedia content is licensed under. But, as the panels evolved, blue links to Wikipedia articles started shrinking in size. Over time, the underscore was removed so that the links weren’t clickable, and then the links were lightened to a barely visible grey tone. Now, facts under the opening paragraph tend not to be cited at all, and hyperlinked statements refer back to other Google pages."

I remember this phase now, where Wikipedia wasn't clickable. (Here ↗ and here ↗ are some examples from 2013, showing Wikipedia in pale grey rather than as a blue hyperlink.) This is no longer the case. The blue Wikipedia hyperlink has become standard again in Google, and it's also standard on DuckDuckGo, the search engine used for the particular study we were discussing. Best, --Andreas <small><span style="color: #FFBF00;">JN</span> ↗466 ↗</small> 12:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

let me know please

about any progress. I'm definitely delayed and looking for a publisher! Smallbones<sub>(<span style="color: #cc6600;">smalltalk</span>)</sub> 19:56, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Smallbones}} I just saved a version (right before seeing your message) and could have it publishable in just a few minutes, but I can definitely use some extra time this time. Regards, HaeB (talk) 19:59, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
::Take an hour if you need it. I need it. I also need a publisher. BTW, I think daylight savings time affected my time expectation (UTC didn't change) as well as the holiday. Smallbones<sub>(<span style="color: #cc6600;">smalltalk</span>)</sub> 20:14, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
:::Ceterum censeo we should always focus on the deadline template ↗ as a central location for coordinating publication time... Regards, HaeB (talk) 20:30, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

do you know

how to publish?
20:55, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Smallbones}} No, sorry - I have never used the publishing script, and the instructions for the manual process ↗ (much of which I wrote a decade ago) are very likely outdated by now. Regards, HaeB (talk) 21:05, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
::Me neither - I guess I'll just wait untill somebody shows up! Smallbones<sub>(<span style="color: #cc6600;">smalltalk</span>)</sub> 21:06, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

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It looks like I will be acting ''Signpost'' manager around the end of the month due to holiday schedules. The writing deadline is set for the 27th. Should I expect your column around the deadline as usual? Maybe earlier? ☆ <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">Bri</span> (talk) 19:55, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

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Dear HaeB, thank you for your initial help at Carl von Bimsarck page. Editors on the German and Portugues page insist on mantaining the poorly source article and locked the page for editing.Can you please help? <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding unsigned ↗ comment added by Otto-Christian von Bismarck (talk • contribs ↗) 16:47, 11 January 2022 (UTC)</span>

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:{{Ping|Xoltered}} It looks that this was an effort to retaliate against the 3rr warning ↗ you had received 25 minutes earlier, about your persistent edit-warring over several days against several other editors to remove Uyghur genocide ↗ from the article lead (and which you chose to dismiss ↗ within less than one hour, alongside separate concerns brought up by other editors about your editing).
:Now that you have also received an official administrative warning ↗ about this, it might be a good moment to reconsider such tactics. Regards, HaeB (talk) 22:02, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

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Hello! Can you clarify on the reliability of the source material of "obituary :The Independent" report on NFAK. Is it safe to cite 'obituary' for a reliable source of info for a living person? I see one person removed it from that page.. Arorapriyansh333 (talk) 18:30, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

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You could add citation needed to my undisputed edits instead of just deleting without knowing the facts and seeing the whole picture. Georgeadelmoureed (talk) 12:54, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
:Perhaps, but the text is still preserved in the version history, so once you find a reliable source ↗ for your assertion ↗ about the CIA's capabilities in "tracking brain waves and reading minds", you can easily add it back. Regards, HaeB (talk) 20:43, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Excuse me what about habit cough where its method of transmission if revealed it could end this new phenomenon ? How can i find a source other than "see and notice" manner ? Georgeadelmoureed (talk) 11:51, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

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Saw this underneath the top bar on that Signpost article just now. Looks like you've just broken a milestone! Congratulations. '''jp'''×'''g''' 20:33, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
:Oh nice, thanks for the heads-up! (Xtools says 50,187, but either way I entirely missed this.) Regards, HaeB (talk) 20:39, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

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Hey! Not sure if this is okay, but I've found a pretty recent and interesting study on Wikipedia ↗ citations and open access. I've made a draft here ↗, but it still needs a lot of work. I've asked my boyfriend to revise it a bit, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on this too. '''<span style="background:#4C516D; color:white; padding:2px;">Gerald</span><span style="background:#B9CFF0; color:black; padding:2px;">WL</span>''' 10:31, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Gerald Waldo Luis}} Apologies I missed this earlier. It looks great, feel free to add it to the draft for the upcoming issue ↗, which is due for publication in a little over 22 hours already (27 March 20:00 UTC) - if that timing doesn't work out for you, we could also run it in a future edition. The only thing I can think of adding might be mentions of related research about open access citations on Wikipedia (e.g. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=%22open+access%22+citations&prefix=Research%3ANewsletter%2F20&fulltext=Search+past+issues&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&ns12=1&ns200=1&ns202=1 ↗ has earlier coverage of two or three relevant papers).
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Hello! I'd appreciate if you could send me the credentials for our Twitter and Facebook accounts :) I'd love to help with writing copy for each issue, as well as scheduled Tweets/Facebook posts, in order to hopefully increase our reach. Thank you! My email is open. 🐶 EpicPupper <sup>(he/him | talk)</sup> 23:05, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
:Replied here ↗. Regards, HaeB (talk) 07:49, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

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Hello, HaeB. Hope you are doing great!
I don't think that I made any mistake by adding this external link to the time-lapse photography page.

The above videos on the page are just low quality and not expressing the "time-lapse" appropriately.

The link I have added is one the best time-lapse video in the world. It was taken in California and it is an award winning photograph collection of more than 10,000+ images.

HaeB, it is my request to you please approve the change. This is not just a normal time-lapse video, it is work of someone's year. Ryankillackey (talk) 20:26, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
:Replied at User talk:Ryankillackey. Regards, HaeB (talk) 20:26, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

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Hi! Could you or @JPxG write this month's Twitter summary? I can take care of the other tweets. Thanks! 🐶 EpicPupper <sup>(he/him | talk)</sup> 03:22, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
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Is there a link for this ↗? I didn't see anything in the letter linked in the article. If this is verified, a note needs to be added to that section (which I can do, or someone else can do, but it needs to happen). '''jp'''×'''g''' 07:52, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

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Responding to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom&type=revision&diff=1123527446&oldid=1122414285&diffmode=source ↗, here's my short review of "Wikipedia as a trusted method of information assessment during the COVID-19 crisis".

The chapter, unfortunately not yet in open access, provides a good overview of Wikipedia's history and practices, concluding that Wikipedia's coverage of the COVID-19 pandemic is "precise and robust", and how this generated positive coverage of Wikipedia in mainstrem media. The author provides an extensive and detailed overview of how Wikipedia volunteers covered the pandemic, and highlights the efforts of the dedicated Wikipedia:WikiProject COVID-19 ↗, an offshot of the larger Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine ↗, as important in creating quality content in the topic area. He also praises the Wikimedia Community and the Wikimedia Foundation for their dedication to the fight against fake news ↗ and related misinformation.

One of the most interesting, if somewhat tangential to the main topic observations of the author is that Wikipedia "is used [by readers] in ways similar to a news media", which "generates a tension between Wikipedia's original encyclopaedic ambitions and these pressing journalisstic tendencies" (an interesting and in this reviewer experience, under-research topic, at least in English - for a recent French book on this topic, see here ↗ (a review of said book). The author concludes that this, somewhat begruding, acceptance of current developments by the Wikipedia community has significantly contributed to making its coverage relevant to the general audience, and at the same time, notes that despite reliance on media sources, rather than waiting for scholarly coverage, Wikipedia was still able to main high quality in its coverage, which the author attributes to editor's reliance on "legacy media utlets, like the New York Times and the BBC". <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></sub> 12:07, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

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If we could bury the hatchet for now, if you can get the Recent research up by about 23:00 UTC today (the 26th), I'll do my best to make sure it's copyedited before publication day. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">'''Adam Cuerden''' <sup>(talk)</sup><sub>Has about 8.2% of all FPs ↗. Currently celebrating his 600<sup>th</sup> FP ↗!</sub></span> 02:24, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
:{{ping|Adam Cuerden}} Thanks for the offer, and no hatchets in sight from where I'm sitting! ;)
:I am going to work on this a bit later today and will update the newsroom page once there is more to copyedit. As always ↗, I'm committed to having it in publishable form by the publication deadline tomorrow. Regards, HaeB (talk) 22:39, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
::Aye, you do great work with it. Just trying to make things a little easier on JPxG. I copyedited what existed, not sure how much is coming. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">'''Adam Cuerden''' <sup>(talk)</sup><sub>Has about 8.2% of all FPs ↗. Currently celebrating his 600<sup>th</sup> FP ↗!</sub></span> 01:03, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
:::Well, I for one am hoping that the ''Signpost'' gets delayed so Recent Research can be finished properly, but don't know how much JPxG checks messages in all the chaos of publishing, so might be a good idea to at least add a link to where the final paper will be, since I think it's published somewhere else too? <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">'''Adam Cuerden''' <sup>(talk)</sup><sub>Has about 8.2% of all FPs ↗. Currently celebrating his 600<sup>th</sup> FP ↗!</sub></span> 21:00, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

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Are you requesting a revdel of that gross WP:BLP ↗ violation? --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 14:19, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
:{{Ping|John Maynard Friedman}} I'm not quite sure which edit(s) you are referring to - I have reverted at least four BLP violations in the last hour or so. In any case I didn't request a revdel for any of them so far, so feel free to go ahead if you see a case where that is advised. Regards, HaeB (talk) 14:27, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
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This is for https://doi.org/10.1093/iwc/iwac033 ↗, finally got around to reading it.

The paper addresses the issue of systemic bias, and focuses on English, Chinese, Arabic and Spanish Wikipedias. The authors study {{tq|the production of seven years of news}} on these projects (from WP:ITN ↗ and its equivalents), and conclude that {{tq|while there is an indication of self-focus bias, there is also strong evidence of a global representation of events}}. Self-focus, here, refers to focusing on one's home region or culture, and past studies found that about a quarter of most Wikipedias are about "self-focused topics".

The authors ended up with the dataset of {{tq|a total of 6730 articles... 2064 in English, 1379 in Arabic, 1527 in Chinese and 1760 in Spanish}} which correspond to {{tq|2064 events, 172 in Arabic-speaking countries, 115 in Chinese-speaking areas, 114 in Spanish-speaking regions, 445 in the US, 472 in other English-speaking countries and 746 in [other] areas}}. The events were also coded by topic covered, which resulted in the {{tq|192 events classified as Science & Nature, 714 in Notable Person, 337 in Sports, 299 in Politics, 231 in Man-made Incidents, and 291 as Other}} categories. To compare Wikipedia's coverage to global media coverage, the author also associated their dataset with that of the GDELT Project ↗.

Some specific findings suggest that English Wikipedia suffers from {{tq|a slight under-representation of events in Arabic-speaking countries}}. Arabic project on the other hand does not show much self-bias; instead it over-represents events that happen in English-speaking countries (but not the USA). The Chinese and Spanish Wikipedia, authors argue, have a stronger self-focus bias than Arabic and English projects, although still, over 90% of events covered by the news sections of these projects are about items not related to these countries. The authors also find, perhaps unsurprisingly, that larger Wikipedias will react to breaking news faster and update their news section more promptly. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></sub> 10:52, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

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Censorship attempts

Please read how Holocaust studies was started by the Israeli embassy in a secret meeting ↗. Then please read about the recent initiative of Grabowski to censor Wikipedia: https://www.jewsandpolesdatabase.org/2023/02/22/wikipedia-does-censorship-massive-holocaust-related-suppression-of-independent-thinking-polish-scholars-jewish-influence-grabowski/ ↗, https://www.tysol.pl/a100497-grabowski-wysledzil-polski-spisek-na-wikipedii-jest-odpowiedz-wikipedysty-kompromitacja-badacza-holocaustu ↗. Wikipedia shouldn't censor Polish scholars who cover the heroic efforts of the Poles to fight Germany and rescue Jews. 188.147.175.5 ↗ (talk) 09:28, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

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I appreciate a seasoned editor and community member stepping in at GISAID ↗ -- what is happening there with "new-who-claim-not-to-be-new" agenda-driven editors is pretty disgraceful. I have some time finally to address the problems, point-by-point, in discussion. I'll be sure to make the case for following Wikipedia policies and guidelines before making any alterations. Would you mind looking back in over the next couple of days on the Talk page, to see how you would assess or characterize the dispute? - AppleBsTime (talk) 14:20, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
:{{Ping|AppleBsTime}} That sounds like a good plan of action. As always on Wikipedia, you don't need me or any other third party to come to an agreement with the editor about whose edits you are concerned; but I have this article on my watchlist now and if time permits I may try to take another look and perhaps weigh in in case it seems that my input could be useful. As already indicated on the article talk page though, I would strongly recommend to focus your arguments on the content. Regards, HaeB (talk) 20:29, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Regular sciency business

For the etherpad. My new article on mundane but I think pretty cool sciency Wiki stuff: European Wikipedia platforms, sharing economy and national differences in participation: a case study ↗. It is a follow up to my earlier article Macro-level Differences in Participation in Sharing Economy: Factors Affecting Contributions to the Collective Intelligence Wikipedia Platform across Different Asian Countries ↗ which was briefly summarized in Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2021-10-31/Recent research ↗. If a prospective reviewer needs an OA copy, let me know; I need to double check that journal's archival policies (I forgot the link to the website that helps with that). <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></sub> 09:07, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Piotrus}} Happy to add (and tweet) it either way, but yes, an open access version would be preferable. Per https://authorservices.taylorandfrancis.com/research-impact/sharing-versions-of-journal-articles/ ↗ they allow the "Author’s Original Manuscript" to be shared in any venue, and the "Accepted Manuscript" on a "personal website". Regards, HaeB (talk) 16:32, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you. See academia.edu ↗ and researchgate ↗ for open access links. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></sub> 06:20, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Piotrus}} Nice; I just got around to posting a tweet ↗.
:::By the way - I haven't read the full paper so maybe I'm missing something, but did you consider using this dataset ↗? (The WMF's privacy-motivated bucketing complicates statistical analyses, but there should be ways to handle that.)
:::Regards, HaeB (talk) 09:11, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
::::Belated reply - thanks for the link to the dataset, it's worth considering. Also - wondering if I missed it, but which RR issue was my European research mentioned in? Did it slip through the cracks? <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></sub> 02:30, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::Just following up? <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></sub> 01:58, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
::::::Hmmm. In either case, here's ↗ another new paper of mine, which TL;DR can be sumarized as: Wikipedia is not as popular in South Korea as in most other countries. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></sub> 06:57, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks - happy to tweet, as before, but at the risk of repeating myself from above: Is there a freely accessible version? I assume T&F's policies haven't changed since April.
:::::::{{tq|Also - wondering if I missed it, but which RR issue was my European research mentioned in?}} - I thought that after all these years you might be somewhat familiar with our production process ↗? It can take a few months, and that's OK (the monthly editions are not for super timely breaking research news, we have Twitter and Mastodon for that. Sooner is better of course, and with the help of some new volunteers we are currently speeding up things a bit and also reducing the backlog).
:::::::That said, in this particular case your plight has since attracted the attention of a good Samaritan, who added it to the current issue ↗ (although in the "Other recent" section only, without full coverage). Regards, HaeB (talk) 00:34, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
::::::::I did miss you reply - may I kindly suggest WP:ECHO ↗ing people when replying on your talkpage? These days we have the subthread subscription too but I am not sure if it was active back then and I did not have it activated.
::::::::Anyway, reporting on my new papers since July, I think they the first two are more interesting for our readers:
::::::::* https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/08944393231220165 - OA preprint: https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.14401
::::::::* https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/WikiJournal_of_Medicine/Where_experts_and_amateurs_meet:_the_ideological_hobby_of_medical_volunteering_on_Wikipedia
::::::::* https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02188791.2023.2220936 Here, I don't think we have an OA version yet, sadly, but frankly, I don't understand what Sherpa tells me about this journal ↗ - can you tell me what am I allowed to do here?
::::::::Side note: do you think WMF should have grants for open access licencing of Wikipedia research? I wonder if this is something for an OPED for TS... <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></sub> 04:52, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::{{Ping|Piotrus}} Oh, I seriously thought this kind of reply would generate a ping by default nowadays.
:::::::::* {{tq|https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/08944393231220165 - OA preprint: https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.14401}} - happy to post the latter, but since there seem to be considerable differences (starting from the title), perhaps you want to update it with the accepted version first? (Which is permissible per https://us.sagepub.com/en-us/nam/journal-author-archiving-policies-and-re-use ↗.)
:::::::::* {{tq|https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/WikiJournal_of_Medicine/Where_experts_and_amateurs_meet:_the_ideological_hobby_of_medical_volunteering_on_Wikipedia}} - thanks, posted ↗
:::::::::* {{tq|can you tell me what am I allowed to do here?}} IANAL obv, but my reading of that third-party page (btw, this ↗ appears to be a more readable version) is is that it is consistent with what I had said above: {{tq|Per https://authorservices.taylorandfrancis.com/research-impact/sharing-versions-of-journal-articles/ ↗ [T&F] allow the "Author’s Original Manuscript" to be shared in any venue, and the "Accepted Manuscript" on a "personal website"}} (if you translate "Author’s Original Manuscript" to "Submitted version" and "Accepted Manuscript" to "Accepted Version").
:::::::::{{tq|do you think WMF should have grants for open access licencing of Wikipedia research?}} - https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Policy:Open_access_policy/Frequently_asked_questions ↗ says {{tq|The Wikimedia Foundation does not cover APCs for research conducted under the terms of [its open access] policy, but researchers may apply for an additional grant from the Wikimedia Foundation to cover these fees under certain circumstances.}} Not sure though how current that information is. As for "should": From the perspective of the newsletter anything that makes relevant research more accessible would of course be welcome; although I could also imagine some tricky implementation questions, e.g. about very highly priced fees or predatory journals, process/governance details, COI/bias issues (should WMF be compelled to fund distribution of research that criticizes it or doesn't align with its opinions and priorities) - although much of this may not be worse than for some already existing systems. A Signpost op-ed might be a good way to launch such a discussion. (It doesn't quite fit in RR, but we could surely link to it.)
:::::::::Regards, HaeB (talk) 22:43, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::Thank you. Keeping IANAL in mind, what do you think is a "personal website"? Would my profiles on academia or researchgate fit under that definition? (A also offers this service ↗); and I also found this ↗). Frankly, I consider my Wikipedia userpage a personal website, but again, legally, it's weird, uploading the paper to wikibooks or such would be more copyright craziness. What are best practices here? Right now my simplest idea is to upload the file to a file locker and link it from my old forgotten blog :P <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></sub> 01:58, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::{{ping|Piotrus}} Well, the aforementioned T&F page ↗ clearly distinguishes between {{tq|my personal website or blog}} and {{tq|scholarly collaboration networks (ResearchGate, Academia.edu etc)}}. So it seems clear that at least from their point of view, the answer to your second question is no. Regards, HaeB (talk) 04:06, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::Link to submitted version for the first paper, OA: https://lewoniewski.info/files/americanization.pdf <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></sub> 05:47, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
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Proposed GA nomination of Angela Merkel ↗

Hi! I'd like to nominate Angela Merkel ↗ for consideration as a Good Article, and I'm reaching out to you as you are one of its most significant contributors ↗. I have fixed some issues with that article, and I expanded it a little in some places, but I still feel that this is the right way to go per WP:GAN/I#N1 ↗.

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Just to say I'm really liking your contributions to the current debate about the Orsini/Gitz business. Dronkle (talk) 12:01, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

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The RFPP section has already been archived, but since you pinged me, I didn't want to just ignore you. My thoughts:

I didn't notice the prior, longer protections. I also see that my gut instinct - that this was a limited-time, coordinated attack - was likely wrong. Hence the 1 week protection yesterday.

I see User:Dennis Brown upgraded it to a month today. Better than mine, but you're probably right that it will need protection almost immediately after Dennis' protection expires.

I hate to semi-protect talk pages for very long, as that leaves non-confirmed good faith editors no way to easily make edit requests. But I agree this talk page situation looks untenable; when it is unprotected, there's a firehose of confused and/or stupid edits that make legit use of the talk page almost impossible. On this particular page, I wouldn't object to a 1 year semi-protection.

I'll poke around and see if it's common/possible to add an unprotected subpage that is open to non-confirmed editors.

Dennis, if you got this ping, any objection to increasing to a year, since three 1-month and 1 3-month protections weren't sufficient? If you look at the page history, HaeB is right, this is basically guaranteed to start right back up.

HaeB, if Dennis wants to try a month, feel free to ping me in July if/when it starts back up, and I'll semi for a year.

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{{u|Floquenbeam}}, I have no objection to increasing, with the justification being that this isn't a flash in the pan topic, and the likelyhood of continued distruption is extraordinarily high given the subject matter. I would note that there is more than "vandalism", but actually spamming and other disruption that makes this a rather unique case. This was my thinking in giving it a month (and brainfarting when it was asking to override), which is longer than most first time semi- for non-BLP articles. <b>Dennis Brown</b> - <b>2¢</b> 22:22, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

:Thanks both! I certainly agree with Floquenbeam that talk pages should be only be protected in rare and unusual situations. But this is clearly one of them. I would add that these edits are actually in all likelihood not intentionally disruptive, as they appear to come from people who mistake that talk page for an interface where one can post requests to a chatbot. This also means that protecting the page may in fact doing these people a favor, preventing them from wasting their time. - In any case I have posted a note about this on the page itself ↗, which is probably the best location for continuing the discussion if necessary. Regards, HaeB (talk) 21:36, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

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at me there or stay out of the conversation you clearly have no idea about

read the talk page as to why i was justified in editing

then notice the immediate topic sliding of the other users, failure to understand text when that's what they're trying to do for wikipedia and unwillingness to explain their position just like in another article that took 2 months and a forced edit before it even got attention..

now tell me these people aren't being biased in their conduct and editing, or that they don't have personal stakes here...

also biased you immediately listen to the account guy over me just because i post anonymously

or did you actually have a reason, you know, one you would have no issue posting here or on the talk page? ill wait 62.145.196.138 ↗ (talk) 08:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

:I see you have since been blocked and also had received feedback from other editors already. So I'll just add the advice to cite sources ↗ and be aware Wikipedia's "Neutral Point of View" policy ↗ when e.g. adding plagiarism accusations ↗ to an article, and to include an explanation in the edit summary when removing content (no, this one ↗ was not sufficient); if space is too short for such an explanation, feel free to link to one on the article's talk page instead. Regards, HaeB (talk) 19:37, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

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Hello, I've just left this comment on User:Red-tailed hawk's talk page. It applies to you word for word. I could have pinged you there, but I wanted to leave a record of it on your talk page as well, and copying and pasting it here seemed silly - so that's it. Thank you kindly, Gitz (talk) (contribs ↗) 15:13, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

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RR - over my head

Hi, I held back on adding something to my Recent research writeup; feel like I'm already over my head especially considering the stature of the journal it's appearing in. However, I thought I'd run this by you. A statistician at U Toronto named Ulrich Schimmack has criticized experiments on psychological priming (see de:Priming (Psychologie) ↗) and IAT specifically, saying {{tq|I find no support for the claim that IATs have practically significant incremental predictive validity. In conclusions, IATs are widely used without psychometric evidence of construct or predictive validity.}} ("Invalid Claims About the Validity of Implicit Association Tests by Prisoners of the Implicit Social-Cognition Paradigm", PMCID PMC8167921) This may pertain to the study under review, but I don't feel like I can make that statement myself. In the paper they don't seem to acknowledge IAT may be imperfect, and yet, of the study results dependent on IAT, they acknowledge that {{tq|we view our implicit bias results as suggestive}}. ☆ <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">Bri</span> (talk) 00:25, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

:It's not just the statistician that you mention, there seems to be an entire literature raising concerns about the IAT's validity and reliability (and also defenses by its proponents). Some of this is described at Implicit-association_test#Criticism_and_controversy ↗; for a more concise explainer targeting a lay audience one might try one of the journalistic articles highlighted approvingly by Andrew Gelman ↗ here ↗.
:But, while I haven't yet read the entire paper that you're reviewing, it does actually seem that the authors are transparent about the test being controversial in general: {{tq|We acknowledge important continuing debate about the reliability of the IAT}}. In fact they appear to report results that bolster such reliability concerns ({{tq|We note, however, that the distribution of participants’ implicit bias scores was less stable across our preregistered studies than the distribution of participants’ explicit bias scores.}}) So one might want to focus on their justification of still using it in their particular situation ({{tq|Our specific choice of IAT is supported by ...}}), and also highlight that they apparently primarily relied on an alternative, less questionable metric for their overall conclusions: {{tq|Given these considerations, we view our implicit bias results as suggestive and emphasize our measure of participants’ explicit bias as our primary and most robust outcome of interest.}}
:Regards, HaeB (talk) 01:42, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for the copyedit, I like the way it's looking now. One other thing that I hesitated to add. If the linchpin of their result is not the IAT, but now is rather the self-reported "gender slider" test for perceived fitness for occupations. How did they determine that the people willing to do this task are good subjects? I know they did some demographic basis-setting, but do you think that was legit? Seems to me that anonymous quiz-taking (for pay) on the Internet is ... hmm... less than ideal in terms of filtering out trolls and getting a representation of the psychology of "average" users. Then again, maybe bored and underemployed people ''are'' the average Internet user. I don't know what to do with this speculation. ☆ <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">Bri</span> (talk) 22:27, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
:::I mean, yes, that kind of sampling bias ↗ is definitely a concern in general when using such platforms. But their use is also pretty much standard in this line of research, and the authors seem to have done at least some due diligence (also search for "attention checks" in the paper). So it isn't necessarily a red flag. If you want to dig deeper into this: The other day I happened to see ↗ - but didn't read yet - a new working paper ↗ which investigated such quality issues; the abstract specifically mentions Prolific's "nationally representative" option that was used in the Nature paper. (More generally, Amazon_Mechanical_Turk#Research_validity ↗ mentions some other concerns about that platform specifically but needs to be updated with newer findings. More recently, giving the increasing capabilities of AI, there has been a bit of panic that many such survey reponses might ... not be human-generated, but at least in some cases ↗ these concerns seem to be overblown so far.)
:::Having read a bit more of the paper now, I think the review could still use a bit more detail on what the Wikipedia-related findings looked like concretely (given that they were not the paper's main focus), I might take a stab at that shortly - will ping you again if I make any substantial changes and possibly add myself to the byline.
:::Regards, HaeB (talk) 06:26, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
::::PS: Wait, reading again (and further into the paper), I realize you were referring to a separate task where they indeed used MTurk, separate from the one where they used Prolific. So adjust the above accordingly. Again, I would look into what kind of due diligence they mention having done in either the paper or the supplement (e.g. regarding a third task. coding faces by gender, for which they also used MTurker, they say that {{tq|our results are robust to controlling for coder demographics and the rate of intercoder agreement ↗}}). Regards, HaeB (talk) 06:53, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

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Oh, it's ''that'' paper. Well, I am ready to roll on the rest of the issue. it's 6:30 AM so hopefully that TK will TK soon --otherwise a nap mayhaps and then rolling? <b style="font-family: monospace; color:#E35BD8"><b style="color:#029D74">jp</b>×<b style="color: #029D74">g</b> ↗🗯️</b> 10:32, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

:My apologies. I had already taken the latter advice ;) The review was mostly written already, but while looking further through the paper's replication data (to extract some illustrative non-cherry-picked examples to use in the review, from my own user talk page - i.e. this one...) I encountered what I'm now certain is yet another problem (non-existent or mis-attributed comments), in addition to the several methodical ones that the review is going to cover. I want to take a bit more time to check whether this is a more widespread data problem that may warrant mention in the review, or a fluke that just happened to affect my own talk page. But I don't want to hold up publication (and also need to move on to other things myself for a while), so let's postpone it for another month. I'll replace this placeholder with another already drafted item in a minute and then it should be ready to go.
:Btw, another thing I found looking at the replication data is that warnings such as https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stefroe&diff=prev&oldid=808255408 ↗ were ''not'' counted as toxic for the purposes of the paper (while that one did indeed receive an extraordinarily high overall "toxicity" score of 0.239654, caused by the "threat" and "insult" subdimensions, that was still below the 0.8 threshold used in the authors' analysis). I'm glad to have checked that - would have quoted the result you got from the API in our discussion here ↗ instead. Will take some more time to figure out what's going on with these warnings too. (Had you removed wiki and HTML formatting - as described on p.6 of the paper - before passing it to the API? Sometimes language models get tripped up by this kind of thing.)
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By the way, I apologize again for not helping you with the last issue... Oltrepier (talk) 08:10, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

:Thank you and (and Gråbergs Gråa Sång) for bringing this to my attention. It looks like this paper indeed hadn't yet been on our radar, so I just tweeted it ↗ and it will go on our to-do list ↗ for upcoming issues as usual. Regards, HaeB (talk) 09:20, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

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I'm not sure this is the kind of thing we cover in ''The Signpost''{{'}}s Recent research item, but you might want to take a look at Is Wikipedia Politically Biased? ↗. On the surface it looks like statistically based research, not just someone's raw opinion. ☆ <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">Bri</span> (talk) 19:39, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Bri}} thanks for the heads-up! Yes, that should be in scope for RR. (It's not peer-reviewed and the publisher is a conservative think tank, but the author has done related research for a while, which seems to have been well-regarded and was featured e.g. in the Guardian ↗ and the NYT ↗). I have put it on the to-do list ↗ for the upcoming issue. Of course, like in our previous coverage ↗ of some previous studies alleging a political bias of Wikipedia, it may be interesting to examine what the study uses as its purportedly neutral baseline, which is always a challenge in such bias research. Regards, HaeB (talk) 07:08, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

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:{{ping|Horse Eye's Back}} Do you mind explaining briefly why you added me ↗ to that request as involved?
:After a quick look at the linked page, I conjecture that you did so because I had expressed agreement ↗ with Red-tailed hawk's concerns about a comment by Elinruby, where Red-tailed hawk cited that Noleander case among other policies. Is that correct?
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Hello, thank you for pointing out and correcting my mistakes ↗ on that ITM entry. I'm still pretty inexperienced at dealing with these topics, so I always appreciate it whenever someone else steps up to give more insight! Oltrepier (talk) 17:39, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

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“Reverted 1 edit by 80.41.110.133 (talk): Please avoid substantial content changes after publication, also, be aware that these articles carry a byline and are not subject to WP:NPOV”

Got that, thou shalt not contradict members of the Wikipedian inner party with facts ;) <small class="autosigned">— Preceding unsigned ↗ comment added by 80.41.110.133 ↗ (talk) 10:34, 24 February 2025 (UTC)</small>

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I am following up on the conflict of interest ↗ discussion we had in the WP:Newsroom ↗ regarding my reporting of Wikimedia LGBT+ ↗.

As I said, I am going to change my behavior to do more disclosure at ''The Signpost'' newsroom and elsewhere.

You are also correct about me having lack of awareness of how my involvement affects my reporting. If you can think of a way for me or anyone to better manage that, then I can try, but for now I am going to be more , then be open to questions if anyone asks.

The other issue you raise is about personal ideology, which may not trigger a COI, but may be the relevant point to communicate. As you pointed out, I am a bit unusual for seeing a Wikimedia Movement conflict between centralization of power in the Wikimedia Foundation versus distribution of power into the user community, and I advocate for decentralization. In my view, practically no one in either LGBT+ or India's community organization cares much to listen to me talk about these things and I am unaware of anyone in either of those groups taking a position on these things. If anyone else with a COI from those organizations wrote ''Signpost'' stories, they would not be taking my positions, so communicating the COI means something different for me than it would for another person.

As a matter of personal feeling, it does seem to me that I am pushing my ideology on these organizations more than they are pushing their conflicted interests back through me, but the disclosure model is to state conflict of interest and not to state personal bias. I get that, but in what you said, it seemed that part of what you wanted readers to know was how my bias was affecting my content output. I feel like another person from LGBT+ would not have written the story that I did, but another person who shared my decentralization views but lacked the LGBT+ affiliation might have. I am just reflecting and I do not have a point to make, except to share that I will continue to discuss with colleagues. Thanks for the conversation and support in getting the piece out. <span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e">''' Bluerasberry '''</span><span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e">(talk)</span> 14:50, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
:I talked things over with :meta:Wikimedians in Residence Exchange Network ↗, and we started :meta:Wikimedians in Residence Exchange Network/Best practices for contribution ↗. Although that is a group effort, not by my lead, and not a specific fit to the concern you raised, I ask that you accept this as an outcome to resolve your request to me to take action. I continue to bring issues to that group, and we continue to discuss together to try to do better. I am open to discussing more with you or anyone else. I hope you find my response to be a reasonable and good-faith attempt to improve. Thanks. <span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e">''' Bluerasberry '''</span><span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e">(talk)</span> 14:36, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

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Submitted Recent research piece

Let me know what you think. It's directly on the page. Smallbones<sub>(<span style="color: #cc6600;">smalltalk</span>)</sub> 20:59, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks! Looks good to me so far. I think readers might be interested in some more detail about what was changed, so I added Table 4 from the paper - your call though.
:No major concerns, I would just suggest that next time you import the figures as the original images from the paper without screenshotting the captions (the captions are better added as text in MediaWiki's own layout, which has several advantages, including but not limited to accessibility).
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Hi there, I just read your nice and comprehensive review of the Common Pile and Common Corpus posted here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-06-24/Recent_research but I think you might have misinterpreted some of the statements we have made, or may be trying to find a policy stance where we have intentionally made none. I'd be happy to discuss if you'd like - feel free to send me an email at craffel at gmail.com 66.205.13.56 ↗ (talk) 21:30, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

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Sorry for reverting your edit. I misspressed on my mobile phone. Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 12:22, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

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I'll wait a bit and if the thing seems settled, I'll do https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANewsmax&oldid=prev&diff=1309715821 ↗https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AFox_News&oldid=prev&diff=1309715799 ↗https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AReliable_sources%2FPerennial_sources&oldid=prev&diff=1309715591 ↗, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMSNBC&diff=1309715766&oldid=1309690940 ↗ then we'll see what happens. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:10, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

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Why are people so rude to me on here? You too! Even when I add a source, people remove it, so there's no point to it! 173.25.88.172 ↗ (talk) 23:45, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

:Stop removing everything I try to add! I'm sick of people stalking me! And stop being so rude! Nobody likes me or what I do! You are all just a clique of mean, stuck up people. 173.25.88.172 ↗ (talk) 23:49, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
::Please respond to me. I do not think I am being treated with respect here. 173.25.88.172 ↗ (talk) 00:02, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

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Hi, I couldn't figure how to use Etherpad so I've created a draft here. I plan to contact the researchers (though the only way to do that is to leave a message at their meta talk pages) and also maybe draw comparison with the General Support Fund grants. How does that sound? Alaexis<sub>¿question? ↗</sub> 20:07, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
This is a follow up to this conversation ↗. Alaexis<sub>¿question? ↗</sub> 20:08, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

:Sounds good so far! Apologies, the pad should have said that the draft page ''will be'' at Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Next_issue/Recent_research ↗, instead of "is at" (now fixed). In any case, feel free to use a separate page for now, we'll just need to move it over once publication comes closer.
:As mentioned, it would be great to include summaries of the most interesting research findings and publications resulting from each (or lack thereof).
:Regards, HaeB (talk) 01:10, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
::@HaeB, can you take a look at my draft? User:Alaexis/research Alaexis<sub>¿question? ↗</sub> 13:18, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

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Just a heads up, I use they/them pronouns on Wikipedia; would you be able to adjust your comment? Thanks, <span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)"><span style="color:#FFF;text-decoration:inherit;font:1em Lucida Sans">Sdkb</span></span> <sup>'''talk'''</sup> 23:06, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

:I already did ↗ (exactly 12 seconds before your comment here... ;-)
:Sorry! Regards, HaeB (talk) 23:11, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

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Hi HaeB. I'm still hoping for a follow-up over here ↗, and perhaps a redaction if you can find your way to it. We can disagree about what, if any, value there is in including "I asked Grok" or the way I worded it, but your extended comments there extract one element from a piece of commentary (not research) and use it to launch into several weirdly broad and frankly insulting claims that extend beyond disagreement. If I'm being honest, I'm a little disheartened that nobody else chimed in to take issue with it. I can take criticism, especially in areas where I'm not an expert, and while I stand by the piece as a whole, yeah, if I could I'd probably go back and tweak the wording along the lines I wrote in my first response there. It's just kind of jarring -- as someone who's done much more Wikipedia-related writing as a member of this community than as a writer about this community -- to see that "comment on content, not on contributors" doesn't apply across the signpost threshold, and to see it from you. Do with this what you will. — <samp><span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span> <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk ↗</sup></samp> \\ 01:42, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

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Feedback request: Economy, trade, and companies request for comment

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Excellent article on using chatGPT to find errors. Question...

Thanks for writing the Signpost article about using chatGPT to find errors in articles... it was very well written and Informative. I'm working on the Bridge ↗ article in the English Wikipedia and I would like to run that tool and try to detect errors. I'm planning on nominating it for featured article next month it would be great to have chatgpt examine it beforehand. Can you please give me instructions how to do it? I'm not too familiar with chatGPT - does it require a paid account to run it? If you have an account would you mind running it on the Bridge ↗ article and sending me the results? if you are too busy, no worries. Thanks again for the Signpost article! Noleander (talk) 05:26, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Noleander}} Thank you!
:I ran it for the Bridge article, the output is here: https://chatgpt.com/share/692d5042-4920-8001-afb8-0f60dece663e ↗
:Your question made me realize that this could have been discussed in more detail in the article. I just posted somewhat more detailed instructions on the talk page ↗ - let me know if that is helpful.
:Regards, HaeB (talk) 08:27, 1 December 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks for running it. Only two minor errors in a 10,400 word article - not bad. Noleander (talk) 11:19, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

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Feedback request: Biographies request for comment

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Happy First Edit Day!

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:Thank you! Regards, HaeB (talk) 07:06, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Anniversary HaeB 🎉

Hey @HaeB. Your wiki edit anniversary was 1 day ago, marking 22 years of dedicated contributions to English Wikipedia. Your passion for sharing knowledge and your remarkable contributions have not only enriched the project, but also so inspired countless others to contribute. Thank you for your amazing contributions. Wishing you many more wonderful years ahead in the Wiki journey. :) -<span style="color:#990000">❙❚❚</span><span style="color:#339966">❙❙</span><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000"> GnOeee </span><span style="color:#006699">❚❙❚</span><span style="color:#339966">❙❙</span> ✉ 19:13, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

:Thank you! Regards, HaeB (talk) 12:27, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

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Feedback request: Wikipedia policies and guidelines request for comment

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Reverted comment

Hey @HaeB, thanks for your comment. I agreed on what you mentioned on the weight of the comment related to the total size of the article. I tried better to integrate it with an already related paragraph of very similar events happening during the previous year. I think it should be ok now. Josep a11 (talk) 10:18, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Percentage points

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I am FULLY aware what a percentage point difference is. But they aren't meaninful if the data sets are different. If one measures percentage of dogs with fleas, and percentage of cats with toxoplasmosis, the percentage point difference isn't a useful metric between them.

To a lesser extent, the percentage increase of internet usage - which includes all purposes - and percentage increase of editing on an educational site are not so comparable that it's worth emphasizing an arithmatical difference, especially when one is a negative number. Showing the percentages is far more meaningful.

I found the article dense, hard to read, and questionable, but I thought it was human-created, so did my best to fix what I could to at least make it somewhat comprehensible. Instead, it's AI slop. Which, had I known, I'd never have put the effort in in the first place. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">'''Adam Cuerden''' <sup>(talk)</sup><sub>Has about 8.8% of all FPs ↗.</sub></span> 00:40, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Wikimania 2026 Research track

Hi, I'm a member of the program committee for the research track at Wikimania 2026. For this Wikimania, we plan to have both professional researchers and Wikimedians discuss in the track. So I'm trying to reach out to Wikimedians, like you, who might have something to say on the research track. Deadline is March 31st.

The other broader reason I'm reaching out is that I'm at loss about where to post on en.wp about our Wikimania research track. I plan to post on the diff and Signpost but this is casting a very wide net. Do you have any hint on where it might be useful for me to post information regarding to the research track?

I also saw the link to your 2012 Wikimania presentation: Movement broadcasting mechanisms ↗. Seems pretty relevant to my current problem (trawling vs angling).

More information on the research track: wikimania:2026:Program/Research ↗ and for the more general anouncement: wikimania:2026:Program ↗.

Thanks, (:Julien:) ✒ 18:19, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

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Signpost article regarding Wikidata graph split

You had comments on my May 2024 ''Signpost'' submission regarding the Wikidata graph split. On matters of database architecture I am as ignorant as ever. Nevertheless, I have an upcoming submission giving my perspective on the update to the graph split.

User:Bluerasberry/Wikidata graph split

I prefer to avoid writing long articles and also I have my doubts that there is audience demand for this information, in this format. Still, I tried to write a complete story.

I am planning to submit this to ''Signpost'' as an op-ed or community perspective. I want to keep it simple, positive, and understandable to a general audience, but I also do not want to make technical omissions or miss obvious necessary points. You have insight into this which I lack. Do you have feedback or suggestions for me?

Thanks. I do see that you have been away from wiki for a few weeks. I am seeking feedback from others too, so if you are committed, then I am getting other opinions and making due otherwise. Thanks for considering. <span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e">''' Bluerasberry '''</span><span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e">(talk)</span> 21:35, 10 February 2026 (UTC)

Thank you

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A barnstar for you!

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New York Times Co. v. Sullivan

You asked how this was a journalistic scandal. NYT printed false information, and they were taken to court for their conduct. How is that NOT a scandal? Even though the Supreme Court found thrm not liable, I think this case still belongs in that category. Many people, including some current Supreme Court justices, have questioned the correctness of the Supreme Court's decision, with some suggesting that it be overruled.IGAEB (talk) 18:23, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

:Thanks for elaborating. However, I agree with Masem's explanation here ↗: It seems that this description as a journalistic scandal might be your own original research ↗ and thus inconsistent with Wikipedia's policies. (Also, regardless of Wikipedia policies: While the court decision itself is of course known for its importance for journalism, it seems that you might have overlooked that the particular information that gave rise to it hadn't even been authored by the NYT's journalists, which makes me doubt that you will be able to find a reliable source ↗ describing it as a journalistic scandal.) Regards, HaeB (talk) 06:19, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

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