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A warning


I've come to make these warnings quite a bit to certain users yet many of them had the stubborn habit of ignoring me and have been topic banned from Armenian/Turkey related articles. I'm only going to ask you once sir, cease your disruptive articles right now, stop with the systematic distortions, or it's a straight complaint to Wikipedia administrators. I've asked you kindly more than once and yet you have chosen not to heed my words. I won't ask you again. Thanks.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 20:54, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

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<div class="user-block"> 40px|left ↗ You have been '''blocked ↗''' from editing for {{#if:|a period of '''{{{time}}}'''|a short time}} in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy ↗ for violating the three-revert rule ↗{{#if:Van Resistance|&#32;at :Van Resistance ↗}}. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes ↗ or seek dispute resolution ↗ rather than engaging in an edit war ↗. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block ↗ by adding the text <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "nowiki" tags. --><nowiki>{{</nowiki>unblock|''your reason here''<nowiki>}}</nowiki><!-- Do not include the "nowiki" tags. --> below. {{#if:|<span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi</span> 22:20, 31 May 2008 (UTC)}}</div><!-- Template:uw-3block --> <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi</span> 22:20, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

{{unblock reviewed|1=My edits, factual and verifiable references and inserts have been systematically dropped or erased without any discussion in spite of my repeated attempts at having one. A well organized group seems to perpetrate these attacks, including personal attacks and name calling and hateful speech. While the group keeps their edit count low, forced me into too many reverts or edits. I would rather not play games, not look for ways to skirt wiki rules as others here do often but have a meaningful dialogue as I have real knowledge to share and contribute on these topics|decline=Merely believing yourself to be right does not justify edit warring ↗ or violations of the 3 revert rule ↗. Also, initiating discussions yourself does not give you the right to violate those rules either. Discussion is to be done '''instead of''' repeatedly reverting to add your information, not '''while''' repeatedly reverting. Repeated reversions will get you a short-term block, and I see no assurance that you intend to stop edit warring over this issue. When the block expires, please seek dispute resolution ↗ and bring in outside parties '''before''' to try to add that information again. It should be noted that this has nothing to do with whether or not the information you wish to add is '''right''' or not. Merely that the act of edit warring is disruptive, and merits this block. — Jayron32.<small>talk</small>.<small>contribs</small> ↗ 02:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)}}

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Hi



Hi - What's the story about vandalism, which articles? Rgds, Gokhan (talk) 11:34, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

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::Dog eats dog! :-) <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS, verdana, sans serif; color:#0088BB;">'''Meowy'''</span> 18:57, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Edit warring, notice of discretionary sanctions



As you seem to be engaged in edit warring ↗ in an area covered by an arbitration committee case ↗, this is to be your warning that discretionary sanctions, as provided in this case ↗ may be applied to you. Specifically, further edit warring may lead to a block ↗ from editing, or a temporary ban ↗ from editing articles on which edit wars have taken place. Please make sure to use dispute resolution ↗ rather than engaging in repeated reverts. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi</span> 05:21, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:The above warning was not in regards to Erzurum ↗, but ''all'' the articles you have been recently edit warring ↗ on. You have been mass-reverting on multiple articles recently, something that is extremely disruptive. Most of your contributions ↗ consist of edit warring. I know in your view that you are trying to bring neutrality to these articles, but your previous methods (of constantly reverting) obviously haven't been working, it only brings disruption to these pages. Instead you must follow the dispute resolution ↗ process, and keep in mind that Wikipedia is not a battleground ↗. Calling other editors "well known propagandists", is not only inappropriate, but also a violation of Wikipedia:Civility ↗. This is why I warned you that if you continue to revert against consensus on all these articles, you may be subject to these discretionary sanctions:

:<blockquote>Any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working in the area of conflict if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process. The sanctions imposed may include blocks of up to one year in length; bans from editing any page or set of pages within the area of conflict; bans on any editing related to the topic or its closely related topics; restrictions on reverts or other specified behaviors; or any other measures which the imposing administrator believes are reasonably necessary to ensure the smooth functioning of the project.</blockquote>

:So, please follow the dispute resolution ↗ process instead of constantly reverting these pages, or you may be placed on the sanctions mentioned above. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi</span> 20:50, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

::I don't quite follow. Meowy for example is already on restrictions, see the List of users placed under supervision ↗ and this notification ↗ on his/her talk page. So are other users. What I'm trying to stress is that I don't want to have to put you on that list, but if you continue editing disruptively ↗, I will have no other choice. Simply reverting again and again is not the proper solution to reach neutrality in articles, it is by discussing your changes and getting a consensus ↗ with other editors. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi</span> 01:32, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Unfortunately, since you have chosen to continue to engage in disruptive editing, I am going to have to place you on editing restrictions. Please see below. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi</span> 06:44, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Erich Feigl ↗ 2



The article still has a lot of issues, but I am particularly curious about the source for your claim ↗ that Erich Feigl was a "Professor at University of Vienna ↗". In which academic field? Regards, HaeB (talk) 02:09, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

It is a good question. All my references refer to his Prof. title and U. of Vienna, but I have not been able to determine further detail due to my limited German. I need to ask around a little. Any help would be appreciated.--Murat (talk) 15:18, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
:OK, forgetting the question about his faculty for the moment, could you at least tell me the reference which says that he was a professor at the University of Vienna? Regards, HaeB (talk) 16:18, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Erich Feigl 3



AfD nomination of Erich Feigl


48px|left ↗An article that you have been involved in editing, Erich Feigl ↗, has been listed for deletion ↗. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erich Feigl ↗. Thank you. <small>Do you want to opt out ↗ of receiving this notice?</small><!-- Template:adw --> Namsos (talk) 16:52, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Not only I have been trying to edit this piece while fighting constant pov distorions, I have actually created this very entry. It has plenty of references to his life and work, and a lot more is easily available on line as his name produces thousands of hits. Your complaint sounds very disingenous at best. I am not all done yet though, it will get better, promise!--Murat (talk) 18:57, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

AN/I



Just a courtesy note to inform you that you've been mentioned in a thread at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#POV ↗. Feel free to read and comment. &ndash; <span style="font-family: Garamond"><span style="color:#1E90FF;">'''Luna Santin'''</span> (talk)</span> 21:28, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Notice of editing restrictions



left|20px ↗ '''Notice:''' Under the terms of Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2 ↗, any editor who edits articles which relate to the region of Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Iran and the ethnic and historical issues related to that area in an aggressive point of view manner marked by incivility may be placed under several editing restrictions, by notice on that editor's talk page. This notice is to inform you that based on your edits, you are hereby placed under the following restrictions:
#'''Revert limitation''' (formerly known as revert parole). You are limited to one revert per page per week, excepting obvious vandalism, and are required to discuss any content reversions on the page's talk page.
#'''Supervised editing''' (formerly known as probation). You may be banned by any administrator from editing any or all articles which relate to the region of Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Iran and the ethnic and historical issues related to that area should you fail to maintain a reasonable degree of civility in your interactions with one another concerning disputes which may arise.
#'''Civility supervision''' (formerly known as civility parole). If you make any edits which are judged by an administrator to be uncivil, personal attacks, or assumptions of bad faith, then you may be blocked for a short time of up to one week for repeat offenses.

'''Enforcement:''' Violations of limitations, supervision, or bans imposed by the remedies in this case may be enforced by brief blocks of up to a week in the event of repeat violations. After 5 blocks the maximum block period shall increase to one year.

Note: This notice is not effective unless given by an administrator and logged here ↗. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi</span> 06:44, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

:Ok, first off, let me clarify that reverting ↗ is when you ''undo'' someone else's edit (yes, it does include the re-addition of material that has been removed by another user). Your use of the word "vandalism ↗" is incorrect in this case, because everything that you have been involved in so far is classified as a "content dispute", since you and your opponents have been disputing whether certain text should be included. This is not a case of vandalism (this ↗ is, for example). Secondly, many of the users that you have been reverting or the ones that have been reverting you are on the same restrictions, so IMO now everyone is equal, and no one is "winning" or "losing". What I've tried to explain to you is that edit wars get nothing accomplished. You keep reverting and reverting, and then someone reverts you, and the cycle continues. Wikipedia articles aren't meant to go back-and-forth like that. The only real way you get something accomplished is by ''discussing'' it with other users, in the hopes that you can form a compromise, or consensus ↗. To answer your numbered questions:
:#After we last spoke you continued to revert (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sason&diff=prev&oldid=221991244 ↗, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bitlis&diff=prev&oldid=222011626 ↗, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sason&diff=prev&oldid=222015977 ↗, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bitlis&diff=prev&oldid=222395735 ↗). On Sason, you reverted 3 times in the last 24 hours. Even though you came close to breaking the three-revert rule ↗ (which you were blocked for on May 31), three reverts is not some sort of magic barrier that prevents you from being blocked. An admin could have easily blocked you for simply edit warring. This is the type of stuff that occurred on Armenian-Azeri pages for example before the arbitration case. After that many users were placed on editing restrictions, a lot of the problems were solved. Aggressive editing can be characterized as constant edit warring, and basically a method of getting your version of the article by constant reverting as opposed to discussion. Is is the exact opposite of what is outlined at WP:1RR ↗. Even if you believe the information you are adding is NPOV, if it is contested by several users, the best thing is to discuss it with them, and once you have come to an agreement, to implement ''that'' version.
:#I'm sure you've tried to be civil, but here ↗ I notice you referring to your opponents as "vandals", this is inappropriate because as I explained above, you're involved in a content dispute here. If other users have personally attacked you, please show me links of this and I will warn them. It is never acceptable to do so.
:#Yes, it is possible. You can get mentored at Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User ↗. Wiki-adoption was created back in 2006 as a program designed to help new and inexperienced users.
:#Although you may disagree with him, it is within Namsos' right to nominate an article for deletion if he believes it is non-notable ↗. However, as you can see from the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erich Feigl ↗, it appears that many users there are deciding to keep the article, so I'm not sure that it matters anyways. Everything that you mention (awards, documentaries, books, Google hits, etc.) can be mentioned at the AfD (articles for deletion page). I have noticed that you've already made a comment there already. Make sure to keep an eye on that page, the discussion is typically open for five days.
:#I don't know the specifics about why your sources were removed, but if you feel like you're not getting anywhere with these disputes, you might try posting something at the Reliable Sources noticeboard ↗ if there is a dispute on whether your sources are valid or not. Another option is the new Ethnic and cultural conflicts noticeboard ↗. Finally, after you have made all attempts at resolving the conflict (including those two links I gave you), and you still feel like nothing has been accomplished, you can check out formal mediation ↗. There, a mediator will get involved and act as a third party.
:I hope all that I have said is helpful. Please feel free to drop a note on my talk page if you have any further questions/comments. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi</span> 21:04, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

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How to make your references appear


Greetings ! To make references appear, you need a section ==Notes== <nowiki><references/></nowiki> or <nowiki>{{reflist}}</nowiki> Rcbutcher (talk) 17:53, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

First Kerevizdere


Hello, I'm surprised that this is the Turkish name for the Battle that the British called Third Battle of Krithia ↗ because on the map Kereves Dere appears on the far Eastern side, and the battle appears to have occured further West, between Saghir Dere and Kereves Spur. ?? Rcbutcher (talk) 18:46, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Bitlis



Yes, so far you did not violate any of the terms of your restrictions, but keep in mind that if you revert more than once on that page for the next week you will. Also, I wouldn't call the anon's removal "vandalism" since he/she provided a reason here ↗. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi</span> 05:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Dardanelles victims



I noticed you changed 'military dead' to 'Casualties'. off the top of my head, I suspect the casualties are about double the numbers previously listed as 'dead'. Do you have figures to justify your change? Sandpiper (talk) 13:31, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
:Ok I had a look at Carlyon, who has turks 251,309 casualties including 86,692 dead: French 27,000 c including 10,000 dead (but they didnt count them), British 73,485 c including 21,255 dead, Aus 19,441 wounded plus 8709 dead, New Zealand 2701 dead plus 4752 wounded. But.....This is for Gallipoli, not the naval actions. So logically that naval campaign article ought to only show naval casualties? This would be much less. Probably possible to find who died/injured on the ships, but how to calcualte the proportionate losses by the defenders? Sandpiper (talk) 13:44, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree. The numbers are for the overall campaign, otherwise it would never make sense. It would be a challenge to get the numbers for the naval actions alone. One can go by listing the ships lost. I am sure we can find numbers for crew lost in each case.--Murat (talk) 23:08, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Erich Feigl 4



It appears to have been deleted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erich Feigl ↗. BTW, new comments always go at the bottom of talk pages. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi</span> 01:06, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

:What do you mean by resource? You can always contest the deletion if you want at WP:DRV ↗. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi</span> 03:05, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

::Well, WP:DRV ↗ says, "Before listing a review request, attempt to discuss the matter with the admin who deleted the page (or otherwise made the decision). There could have been a mistake, miscommunication, or misunderstanding, and a full review may not be needed. Such discussion also gives the admin the opportunity to clarify the reasoning behind a decision." So, I guess you can leave a note on Jayjg's talk page regarding the AfD. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi</span> 20:07, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

BTW, if you don't recall, I clearly said here ↗ that "You are limited to one revert per page per week, excepting obvious vandalism, and are required to discuss any content reversions on the page's talk page." You're aware that this ↗ is a violation of your restrictions, right? <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi</span> 08:51, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

:Unfortunately, the restoration of removed information '''is''' a revert. As for a compromise, if you feel the dispute is getting nowhere you try a formal request for mediation ↗ (on the condition that all other attempts at dispute resolution ↗ has already failed). As for the objection of the quality of the references, you probably already know this, but information at Wikipedia is not supposed to be based on the "truth", but verifiability ↗ -- that is, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia already has been published by a reliable source ↗, not whether we think it is true. Therefore it is entirely fathomable that someone would dispute the sources more than the actual sentence. As for the actual deletion of the references, there is a difference between good faith ↗ removal and bad faith ↗ removal. Since you are involved in a content dispute with these users and since they appear to have provided explanations for removing the paragraph, this lies within the good faith category. Therefore, since this is not vandalism, there is no restriction to prevent them from deleting the paragraph as long as they provided a reasonable explanation. As for your last question, anyone from any party of the dispute can request mediation, since you are both equally involved in the dispute. I myself would like to see this dispute among others eventually resolved in the near future, and not have it drag on forever. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi</span> 19:33, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

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Blocked



Murat, I made it very clear here ↗ and here ↗ that you are only permitted to one revert per page per week. So why did you keep reverting on Bitlis ↗ and Van, Turkey ↗? I have no other option than to block you in order to enforce these restrictions, but were you not clear on what your restrictions were? I don't want to have to block you again, so '''please''' follow the terms of your restrictions that were clearly outlined here ↗. Thank you. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi</span> 02:10, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Re:



Your the one adding the info, its better if you discuss and get people to agree to what you add instead of adding it everytime someone reverts it. --Namsos (talk) 02:46, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Erich Feigl 5



As I explained when closing the AfD, based on the material in the article and the arguments on the AfD page, it didn't appear to meet WP:PROF ↗ and WP:BIO ↗, a number of the sources don't even mention him, and the reliable second party sources that did mention him give fairly trivial mentions. You're free to bring it to WP:DRV ↗ if you like. Jayjg <sup><small style="color:darkgreen;">(talk)</small> ↗</sup> 00:25, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:Have you read the instructions at Wikipedia:DRV#Steps to list a new deletion review ↗? Jayjg <sup><small style="color:darkgreen;">(talk)</small> ↗</sup> 01:46, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
I've added it to the DRV page for you. For some reason it's not showing up yet, but I'm sure it will soon. Jayjg <sup><small style="color:darkgreen;">(talk)</small> ↗</sup> 02:10, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:Feel free to add any comments you wish underneath mine; please don't modify my comment though. Also, please remember to sign your comment with four tildes, like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> Jayjg <sup><small style="color:darkgreen;">(talk)</small> ↗</sup> 02:43, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:::The article has been userfyed at User:Hudavendigar/Feigl. Please leave the {{tl|noindex}} template on the userspace article as you are cleaning and correcting it. Once you feel that you have successfully brought the article to wiki standards, it can be moved to article space and your subpage will be deleted. Please note that its userfication does not in any way protect it from an MfD, like any other page, and that the article should not be moved into article space until such point it would reasonably withstand an AfD. Good Luck. -- Avi (talk) 21:16, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

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Erich Feigl Recovery



Hi. I'm not an expert on the subject. It does look better, and I would suggest that you get another German speaker to confirm the references. Also, perhaps approach some people who opined to delete it in the AfD, and see if they would change their minds now. That would tell you a lot as to how the article has progressed. Lastly, once it goes in to article space, there is nothing stopping someone from nominating it for AfD again, so do as much as you can to get it into shape now. Good Luck! -- Avi (talk) 02:49, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks for your note, but I think the place to raise this is at DRV. Jayjg <sup><small style="color:darkgreen;">(talk)</small> ↗</sup> 04:57, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

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Bitlis



Murat, you are still limited to one revert per week. Please respect this and discuss your edits. If you believe your reference is unfairly contested you can go to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard ↗. There you can discuss it with third party editors. However, this edit warring needs to stop. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi</span> 03:21, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Religion section



Please add any comments or suggestions relating to the reversion of the Religion section at the talk page ↗ on Religion (2). Thanks! Salaam. Mohsin (talk) 14:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
: I have re-edited my version of the section, please add your comments on the Talk Page ↗, whether you are in favor of my revision (hopefully), or the other after reviewing it, Thanks! Mohsin (talk) 18:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


Blocked



You have been blocked for violating the editing restrictions placed on you by {{user|Khoikhoi}} as part of WP:ARBAA2 ↗. The 1RR violations in question:
Please note that further violations of your editing restrictions will result in topic bans, blocks, etc. <span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF;font-family:Georgia;">Nishkid64 </span><sub>(Make articles, not wikidrama)</sub> 20:53, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:You have been blocked for 1 week for violating your 1RR editing restrictions on Van, Turkey ↗: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Van,_Turkey&diff=246878336&oldid=246836730 ↗, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Van,_Turkey&diff=248120608&oldid=247748807 ↗. <span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF;font-family:Georgia;">Nishkid64 </span><sub>(Make articles, not wikidrama)</sub> 04:02, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

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Kansas Bear



I've been looking at his editing (and yours). If I see some outright policy violations, I will consider issuing a block. <span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF;font-family:Georgia;">Nishkid64 </span><sub>(Make articles, not wikidrama)</sub> 04:38, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

AN/I Thread



Your name came up an a thread on AN/I here ↗. Ioeth <sub>(talk ↗ contribs ↗ friendly ↗)</sub> 16:52, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

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ArbCom Enforcement


Hello, please see the following AE report http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Hudavendigar ↗, in regards to your latest edits. Thank you.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 16:16, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:In regards to the above mentioned report: Since you are restricted to 1 revert per article per week and the report clearly shows you violated this restriction, I have blocked you for one month. If you have interest in editing other topics on Wikipedia and would prefer a lengthy topic ban to a full block, please let me know. Note that such a topic ban would include a ban from any article at all related to Armenia or Azerbaijan or any related disputes. Shell <sup>babelfish ↗</sup> 08:49, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

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Armenian spellings of Turkish cities on lead.



I saw your last revert on Bitlis ↗. I have been struggling with this issue for a while. Some armenian users constantly revert the changes by adding the spelling to the lead without any reasonable explanation. I believe we (including armenian users) should standardize all of these changes, by, as you said, moving ''relevant'' spellings to etymology and/or history section. See my debate with Sardur on Igdir talk page.

Armenia–Turkey relations reversions



With reference to Armenia–Turkey relations ↗, I would caution you to not be so quick to undo another editor. Edit warring is totally unhelpful. You are probably already aware of the discretionary sanctions remedy of the ''Armenia-Azerbaijan 2'' arbitration case, but, for the purposes of this ↗ log, I attach this formal notification:

{{Cquote|The Arbitration Committee has permitted administrators to impose, at their own discretion, sanctions on any editor working on pages broadly related to Armenia ↗-Azerbaijan ↗ and related ethnic conflicts if the editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process. If you engage in further inappropriate behavior in this area, you may be placed under sanctions, including blocks, a revert limitation, or an article ban. The committee's full decision can be read at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2#Final decision ↗.}}

If I can be of assistance, in arbitration enforcement matters or otherwise, please contact me. AGK 20:04, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

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ArbCom Enforcement


Once more, this regards your latest editing habits. See here please, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Hudavendigar ↗. --Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 20:59, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Notice



http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArbitration%2FRequests%2FEnforcement&action=historysubmit&diff=326873191&oldid=326867499 ↗--Tznkai (talk) 04:46, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Re: Kunuri



Please see my project here.

Anyway, the short answer about the scope of the Kunuri battle is that during the Battle of Ch'ongch'on River, the Turkish Brigade ↗ first handed the mission to stabilize the collapsing US Eighth Army ↗'s right flank, where it got ambushed by the Chinese 38th Corps and pushed back. Then the Turkish Brigade was given the mission of holding a line east of Kunuri with the US 38th Regiment ↗, but both units soon came under siege by the Chinese 38th Corps and lost heavily during the action. In the aftermath, the Turkish Brigade was completely scattered, lost most of their weapons and transport, and was forced to join with the US 2nd Infantry Division ↗ for a retreat at the south of Kunuri. With the US 2nd Infantry Division, the Turkish Brigade was again forced the "run the gauntlet" against the Chinese 38th Corps' ambush that is miles long and suffered heavily during the retreat. By the time it got out of Kunuri, the Turkish Brigade suffered 20% casualties and need extensive refit and reorganization.

If you need more information on the Turkish Brigade ↗ during the Kunuri battle, please read {{cite book
| last = Appleman
| first = Roy
| coauthors =
| year = 1989
| title = Disaster in Korea: The Chinese Confront MacArthur
| publisher = Texas A and M University Military History Series, 11
| location = College Station, TX
| isbn = 9781603441285
}} However, most US Army records on the Turkish Brigade are extremely fragmented due to language barriers, thus it is very hard to come up with a coherent history for the unit and create a stand alone article for the Kunuri battle. Also, despite the medals, the US military history had a rather low opinion on General Tahsin Yazıcı ↗ and the general performance of the Turkish Brigade (US army records keep on saying General Tahsin Yazıcı was simple minded, allowing the Turk to be routed at the east of Kunuri and the US 38th Regiment ↗ was almost destroyed as the result), thus it is hard to express the accomplishments of the Turkish Brigade during the Kunuri battle.

On a side note, the Chinese did not know who they were fighting against until one Chinese Uyghur ↗ officer identified the wounded in the aftermath of the Battle of Ch'ongch'on River.Jim101 (talk) 14:26, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
:As for your request for the maps, since I'm not a Turkish military expert, I will leave the uploading up to you. However, this ↗ maps showing the action at the south of Kunuri is better suited to show the action of the Turkish Brigade during the Kunuri battle. Jim101 (talk) 18:01, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I do have a favor to ask you on the topic. Most of my research are very Chinese, Korean or American-centric. I managed to reconstruct a time line of the Turkish Brigade's action by using Chinese and Korean materials, but almost no sources actually highlighted that only Turks were defending Kunu-ri on the day of November 28. If you can provide me with a reliable source that explicitly stating this fact, it would greatly help me to highlight the importance of Turkish Brigade.

As for the stand alone article on Kunu-ri, like I said, no rush. If the Kunu-ri section on my project is shaping up in such way that it demonstrates the critical actions of the Turks on the day of November 28, then we can talk about splitting it up into a new article. The information on the Turkish action must be organized first with significance established before splitting into a new article. Otherwise it would a very poor article with little chance of surviving the deletion process.

In the meantime this is the important actions of the Turkish Brigade I manage to gather, and I put it here so that you can help me check if I missed anything.


Jim101 (talk) 16:03, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
: If you want to upload images from Turkey, you have to follow the laws here ↗ or it will be deleted. Jim101 (talk) 21:37, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Good find! I'm looking for materials like this. BTW, can you provide me with the source of this material? Jim101 (talk) 01:05, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
: I started a draft here, what do you think? Jim101 (talk) 02:40, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
::I wrote the introduction and aftermath first, since they set the tone for the rest of the article. Can you check if they are fair, objective and correct?


Almost finish the draft article except the source http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67557 ↗ is a forum post. Can you find this article published in places a more reputable, like veteran associations, government documents or books? If not, can you find alternative sources that help me remove all the citation needed tags on my draft? I don't mind Turkish sources provided they are from veteran associations, government documents or books. Jim101 (talk) 21:02, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
:Too bad most the the pics are not free under Turkish laws, otherwise I could upload them...I'll move the picture from the Turkish Brigade ↗ page onto this article once this page goes live. BTW, any headways on the source? Jim101 (talk) 21:10, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
:If you want me to cite Turkish books in order to remove the citation needed tags, don't forget to provide me with page numbers. And please translate the Turkish book titile. Jim101 (talk) 23:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
::Well, that is a real a bummer, I hoped to grab the combat actions on each individual Turkish units within that battle.
::I did checked out that source, but it looks like a blog, thus I cannot use it. As for the photos, if I cannot pinpoint they are the properties of the US federal government, I cannot upload it due to copyright problems. I'll upload the draft as soon as possible in this case. Jim101 (talk) 06:12, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Battle of Wawon ↗ is now live. Jim101 (talk) 06:29, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
:::One more notes on editing more battle articles in Wikipedia...the bulk of the article has to be presented blow by blow between two sides, otherwise it is considered to be completely off topic. Jim101 (talk) 07:13, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Thanks for the compliment...btw, if I do the Kunu-ri article, it will probably sounded like US 2nd Division saved the day — can't let them steal all the thunder, can't it? :D BTW, few months down the road, I'll be doing the Chinese Third Phase Campaign, which is when the Kumyangjang-Ni battle probably happened...I'll give you a ring once I get around to that. Nice working with you. Jim101 (talk) 16:30, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Battle of Wawon




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|15px|Updated DYK query ↗
|On December 1, 2009 ↗, '''Did you know? ↗''' was updated with a fact from the article '''''Battle of Wawon ↗''''', which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page <sub>(here's how)</sub> and add it to DYKSTATS ↗ if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page ↗.
|} '''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color: #AC0000">So</span><span style="font-variant:small-caps; color: #35628F">Why</span>''' 15:22, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

A problem with this source ↗ since it stated that this battle is "the first real combat since World War I". I put it in the draft and it seemed okay with you...so what is your opinion on this statement? Jim101 (talk) 18:36, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
: Can you comment on the article's talk page ↗ to resolve the current dispute? Jim101 (talk) 01:21, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Note



Under WP:ARBAA2 ↗, I am topic-banning you for 3 months from all articles, talkpages, templates, categories, images etc that relate to Armenian Genocide ↗, to be interpreted broadly. While it's clear that 1RR has slowed down your reverting it has not had much effect on your POV-pushing, which is seemingly based on either out-of-date sources or Turkish-government-related ones. Please find something else to edit for the next 3 months, and return to this area with better sources and an attitude more congenial to collaborative editing. Moreschi (talk) 11:12, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Ottoman submarine Abdul Hamid


Greetings. Maybe you can help this occasional editor with an article I started in my user space, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hudavendigar/Submarine_Abdul_Hamid. I would like someone more expert to go over and comment. Also, and this is embaressing, how do I release it eventually - it is not ready yet. Also, of there are more appropriate tags, maybe you can add them. There is also a probelem with the name. Though most Western sources use "Abdul Hamid" (it is a name for many many things), Turkish is "Abdulhamid". How do we deal with it? Thanks.--Murat (talk) 00:26, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
:Hi, I think Ottoman submarine Abdul Hamid ↗ would be the best name for the submarine on English Wikipedia : Abdul Hamid appears to be the most common way of spelling it there. I have tidied up the article a little bit in your user space, but I can't correct any facts as I'm not a submarine expert. I suggest you copy the article as is to Ottoman submarine Abdul Hamid ↗ and there are lots of experts who will be happy to add more information to it. regards, Rod Rcbutcher (talk) 06:08, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Ottoman ships



Hello! Thanks for your kind words, and kudos to you for starting articles on the neglected topic of the Ottoman navy. If you require any assistance, 'm glad to help out as much as I can :) Cheers, Constantine ✍ 03:07, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

:Hmmm, these are the things you can do, depending on the case:
:a) if the person who took the picture is known by name, then find out when he died. If 70 years or more have passed since then, it will probably be public domain. You will still have to add his name in the file info however. If less than 70 years have passed, then it is not PD, but it could conceivably be uploaded under a fair use license (as an example, a file ↗ I uploaded under fair license). I do not however know whether they will let you keep it, since there already is a PD photo of the ship, so that you cannot really claim that this picture is absolutely needed as a visual aid.
:b) if the photographer is unknown, then write when and where the photo was first taken or published (I cannot read Ottoman Turkish, but it may be that the date is indicated on the photo). Again, if it is pre-1920, it should qualify as public domain.
:Hope this was helpful. At any rate, once you find the info on when & where it was taken, feel free to contact me again. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 13:54, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

File copyright problem with File:Hamidiye3.jpg


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:I've placed the source on the image and updated the copyright template to {{tl|PD-US-1923-abroad}}. Please check & see if this is the appropriate license. <span style="color:ForestGreen">Skier Dude</span> (<span style="color:SaddleBrown">talk</span> ↗) 04:47, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


File source problem with File:Abdulhamid Torpido.jpg


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:Given the source, it appears the appropriate template (which I added) would be {{tl|PD-US-1923-abroad}} . Please check this out to see if this is accurate. 05:56, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Abdulhamid Torpido2.JPG


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Orphaned non-free image File:Hamidiye.jpg


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"İdris-i Bitlisi‎" article name fixed.



With redirects at the old page ↗ and also at (plain-I) Idris-i Bitlisi ↗. <small>— '''Sizzle&nbsp;Flambé''' (☎ ↗/✍ ↗) 18:25, 19 December 2009 (UTC)</small>

To move an article yourself, either for a name change as above or from your userspace to mainspace, look at the tabs on top of the article — they vary depending on whether or not you're using the "Beta" interface, but either there's a "Move" tab or a downward-pointing triangle you can click to get a menu including "Move". Click "Move" and you'll be asked what the new name should be. Remove the "User:Hudavendigar/" and leave the article name by itself. There's a "Reason" field to fill in; give an answer like "Move completed article to mainspace." A checkmark in the "Watch article" box means it will show up on your watchlist. "'''WP:Move ↗'''" will tell you all this and more. <small>— '''Sizzle&nbsp;Flambé''' (☎ ↗/✍ ↗) 15:58, 20 December 2009 (UTC)</small>

İsmet İnönü



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Türk müsün?


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"Sledgehammer" plot


Dear Hudavendigar,

Since you are a Turkish speaker could you please add the interwiki of the article "Sledgehammer" plot ↗ which I have created to the respective Turkish Wikipedia article which I am sure alredy exists? I cannot do it since I do not know Turkish. Maybe you would also add some information to this article.
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Pasha


In English, we use not Paşa but Pasha. Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 18:53, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I do know who we is. "Pasa" shows up in an English disctionary search. I suggest you refrain from emposing your opinions on Wikipedia, maybe engage in more constructive and productive activities here. Thank you.Murat (talk) 02:46, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Hello



Hello, nice to see you on Wikipedia. I recommend you to keep calm, especially in discussions, otherwise the discussion will turn onto your tone rather than the main issue. --Seksen (talk) 12:05, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

'Ottoman Air Force'


There appears to be a scholarly argument, with some basis (Erickson) to say the least, that the title 'Ottoman Air Force' was either never used, or not used early on. Reading the article I did not see a single referenced point backing up the term "Ottoman Air Force" - likely enough, the term wasn't widespread. As far as I know, the first use wasn't until 1918 with the Royal Air Force ↗. Thus right at the moment we have one reference for 'Avaition Squadrons' and no references for "Air Force". Therefore I will not change it back unless someone can come up with some references. By the way, the principle I'm operating under is WP:BRD ↗. Kind regards from New York, 23:10, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
:Thanks for your comments Hudavendigar. (What does Hudavendigar mean?) Would you please like to cite some of those many books you have read which refer to the Ottoman Air Force? Then we can clear this matter up quickly. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) ↗ 02:08, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

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Ottoman Airforce



The original article named "Ottoman Airforce" (190 google hits) was renamed an obscure "Ottoman Aviation Squadrons" (8 google hits, all here)in spite of my strenous efforts to have it first discussed and explained. Not clear at all in what whay this improves the article not to mention accuracy, and instead of a simple re-direct, insitance on re-naming was confounding. The very dispute tag itself was ignored, other massive edits were carried out without search of concensus or discussion. The article has been rendered unrecogizable, negating work of so many contributers and basically removing it form these pages. Help?!Murat (talk) 23:07, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
:Thanks for your message SilkTork. To centralise the discussion, I suggest we continue everything on the article talkpage. Briefly however what we have, I believe, is (1) separate air services within the Ottoman Army and Navy, referenced and referred to by Takabeg, and (2) a lot of ill-informed English language references to an 'Ottoman Air Force,' probably actually referring to the Ottoman Army air service. Neither Murat no anyone else has produced any reference to the creation of an 'Ottoman Air Force' seperate from the Ottoman army and navy services. To continue reference to a separate third service where as far as I can tell so far, none existed, would be a traversty of what WP is supposed to stand for. Hope that makes my position clear. Please, if you can produce references aboutr the creation of a third service, I would be very happy to hear. Otherwise the article may need to be at 'Ottoman Army Air Force'. Kind regards Buckshot06 (talk) ↗ 13:28, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

At this point plenty of credible references, from the time period, which clearly refer to this "force" or organization as Ottoman Air Force have been listed (as the above editor had originally requested). The reference to a particular wording in the offical name of the first aviation organization to be established, "inspectorate", "office", etc. does not take away from the reality of this being an Air Force, same as any other air force that came into existence. All this could have been dealt within the article itself instead of taking the drastic measure of moving the article to where it will not be found by anyone, and without a discussion or concensus. Frankly, why and how this was done by a seasoned editor who should know better and has still not reversed himself to at least allow room for this discussion is a mystery to me. Where do we go from here? Murat (talk) 11:18, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

::There is generally a backlog at Wikipedia:Requested moves ↗. I sometimes deal with such moves, and the discussions can be long and drawn out, which doesn't aid making a decision. I prefer closing those requests where discussion has stopped, and I think other admins feel the same. Someone will close the request at some point, and as it stands there is only one person opposing the move, so it should be a relatively straightforward decision. <span style="border: 1px #F10; background-color:cream;">'''<span style="font-family: Script MT; color: #1111AA; font-size: small;">SilkTork</span>''' *<sup>Tea time</sup></span> 11:33, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Disruptive editing



Please be aware that I had to resort to asking for a third party help due to your repeated and unexplainable and unwarranted reverts in Tevfik Fikret ↗ article. Regards. Murat (talk) 05:35, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

: Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources ↗ ? Takabeg (talk) 05:39, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

:Tevfik Fikret ↗


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I have performed a web search with the contents of your edits ↗ on :Tevfik Fikret ↗, and it appears to include material copied directly from
http://www.turkeyodyssey.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1914:tevfik-fikret&catid=18:articles&Itemid=9 (Turkey Odyssey), which says Copyright © 2011 Turkey Travel Guide Copyright © 2009 Turkey Travel Guide, and http://www.turkishculture.org/literature/literature/turkish-authors/tevfik-fikret-424.htm (Turkish Cultural Foundation), which says (c) Copyright 2011 Turkish Cultural Foundation. Takabeg (talk) 22:06, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

July 2011



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''The Bugle'': Issue LXXVI, July 2012



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''The Bugle'': Issue LXXVII, August 2012



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''The Bugle'': Issue LXXVIII, September 2012



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''The Bugle'': Issue LXXIX, October 2012



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''The Bugle'': Issue LXXX, November 2012



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''The Bugle'': Issue LXXXI, December 2012



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''The Bugle'': Issue LXXXII, January 2013



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''The Bugle'': Issue LXXXIV, March 2013



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''The Bugle'': Issue LXXXV, April 2013



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''The Bugle'': Issue LXXXVI, May 2013



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''The Bugle'': Issue LXXXVII, June 2013



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''The Bugle'': Issue LXXXVIII, July 2013



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''The Bugle'': Issue LXXXIX, August 2013



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''The Bugle'': Issue XCI, October 2013



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Merhaba, olağan üstü katkılarınız ve başarılarınızı takip ediyorum. Yaptığınız katkılar Türkiye ağırlıklı olmak üzere uluslarası ölçüde ve yaptığınız iş takdir edilmekten öte olduğunu öncelikle belirtmek isterim. Üstadım yazmakta olduğum bir makale üzerine eksiklerim var mı yayına alınır mı gibi sorularım mevcut.Öğrenmeye çalıştığım bulunduğumuz platformda eksiklerim var ise yardımlarınızı istirham ediyorum. Makalesini yazdığım kişi uluslararası tanınmış ve saygıdeğer bir isimdir. Sizinde uğraşını verdiğim bu yolda katkılarınız beni onure edecektir.

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Hazırlamakta olduğum bir makale.



Hazırlamakta olduğum bir makale.



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Please review and make sure you understand WP:MINOR ↗. <span style="font-family:Helvetica; color:#503753; text-shadow:#b3b3cc 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">'''Seraphim System'''</span> <sup>(<span style="color:#009900">talk</span>)</sup> 17:32, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

I appreciate the reminder, but I truly believed this was a minor edit. In essence all that was said was that there was a failure of talks preceding the military action. This was not an opinion, an interpretation, or in any way altering the essence of the article. In fact, the absence of this preamble gave a fundamentally misleading information in my opinion.Murat (talk) 17:57, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
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: Here is the exact reference for naming conventions:

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The title: When a widely accepted English name, in a modern context, exists for a place, we should use it. This will often be a local name, or one of them; but not always. If the place does not exist anymore, or the article deals only with a place in a period when it held a different name, the widely accepted historical English name should be used. If neither of these English names exist, the modern official name (in articles dealing with the present) or the modern local historical name (in articles dealing with a specific period) should be used. All applicable names can be used in the titles of redirects.
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Now, please read clearly and again explain which part of this I am contradicting or violating by the edit you have reverted. I have run into this before, and really would like to get it right. What exactly is the objection?Murat (talk) 22:51, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

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