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The DR Code is <nowiki>{{ffd|log=2009 April 9}}</nowiki> --Leoboudv (talk) 06:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

:File:KlamathFalls Oregon USA.jpg ↗



Apologies for my delayed response.

This picture shows the eastern shore of Klamath Lake ↗, about {{convert|9|mi|km}} north of the southern end of the lake, which is about where Klamath Falls is located. The man in the photo is standing roughly at the coordinates 42°21'40"N 121°47'22"W, looking west. These coordinates are on the side of a big hill, and if you come down to ground level here in Google Earth and look southwest, you will very clearly see the field that's visible in the picture. Where the man is standing is about {{convert|7|mi|km}} north of the northernmost extent of Klamath Falls, as the crow flies.

I hope this clears things up. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps;">Athelwulf</span> <sup>[T]</sup>/<sub>[C ↗]</sub> 04:44, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!



I'd like to thank you for your user page at English Wikipedia. Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 22:53, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

TAS



Hi, don't panic, the first season of TAS wasn't deleted, just redirected to a list of episodes.

If you type in the name of the episode in the search box, you'll get to the list of episodes. Scroll up to the top of the screen and you'll see a hyperlink to the old article, click on it and you can edit the article to remove the redirect and add any pertinent information.

You should make sure that you're adding plenty of relevant information to show that the episode is notable. To be honest, the TOS episodes are just about, given the amount of information that's been added, try and get as much as you can for TAS. Alastairward (talk) 09:38, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks for adding all the extra commentary to the TAS articles, I really did run up against a brick wall in trying to source a little bit of influence, critical commentary etc. "Inside Star Trek" by Solow and Justman doesn't cover much on the series, and even then only covered production. Yesteryear was easier to see some further influence but nothing else turned up.
:Ironically enough though, when I was unpacking some books, I found my old copy of Altman and Gross in the middle of them all... Alastairward (talk) 09:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Pictures


Thank you for the pictures! I'm sorry that you're ill, I hope you will get better soon. – <span style="color: #008ea1">Alensha</span>&nbsp;<span style="color: #008ea1"><sup>talk</sup></span> 16:32, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Mereruka




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Surrey School coordinates



All done! '''<span style="color:#880088;">PK</span><span style="color:#449900;">T<small>(alk)</small></span>''' 15:24, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
: Actually, time has been tighter for me since May 4th......I'm in training for a new job. No guarantees as to when I might take care of the additional schools. Cheers! '''<span style="color:#880088;">PK</span><span style="color:#449900;">T<small>(alk)</small></span>''' 22:41, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:: I get coordinates from Google Maps. When you have a satellite view of the school/building/site/whatever, set your cursor over it, click right and select "What's here?" and the coordinates appear in the top search box (in decimal form) with a green arrow pointing at the building. '''<span style="color:#880088;">PK</span><span style="color:#449900;">T<small>(alk)</small></span>''' 11:13, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:: Sorry - my fault - I forgot to tell you about the way coordinates are represented. In the example you mentioned, "49.130004,-122.701779", the coords are 49.13 degrees North and 122.7 degrees West. However, I would rather use 49.12896,-122.703039; it's better to put the green pointer on the roof of the building, rather than outside the parking lot. It's for this reason that I use the satellite view (and street view as well to confirm I've got the right building). You can't rely on Google's landmarks to be correct. '''<span style="color:#880088;">PK</span><span style="color:#449900;">T<small>(alk)</small></span>''' 13:10, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Ramesses I and other topics


Thanks for the message on my talkpage. I was just curious where the information about the siblings of Ramesses I ↗ came from. It would be really interesting to find out more about the family of this man. I know Cruz-Uribe wrote an article about him, but it's a while since I looked at that. I will see if I can find it and see if that where it comes from. I have noticed the work you have done over the years. I quickly realized your edits are of good quality. It will be nice to have more good quality images on wikimedia commons. I nicely illustrated article just is so much better (IMO anyways). Best regards --AnnekeBart (talk) 02:05, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

An option for editing on all wiki pages by Kam Solusar


PS: Have you considered creating an Unified login account? See Help:Unified login ↗. If you convert your account to an Unified login account, you only need to login once to use your username on all projects.

Tefnakht


Dear Leoboudv,

Thank you for the photo. I'll include it in the article when I get around to writing it (I don't have as much time for Wikipedia as I used to do…)

I hope you've recovered from the flu and feel better now.

kind regards, – <span style="color: #008ea1">Alensha</span>&nbsp;<span style="color: #008ea1"><sup>talk</sup></span> 17:22, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Chronology again



You may have already heard about the radiocarbon study that moves some dates back by a century (I had), but someone pointed it out here ↗. I'm not sure what can be done about it until an Egyptologist publishes a revised chronology, but I thought I should let you know. A. Parrot (talk) 19:24, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Prince Thutmose



I haven't seen Dodson's article, nor can I access it now. All I know is that Stephen Quirke wrote briefly about Thutmose in ''The Cult of Ra: Sun Worship in Ancient Egypt'' (2001). On page 152, it says: "Hieroglyphic inscriptions record that [Amenhotep III] had a son, Thutmose, who held the office of high priest of Ptah. Some have seen this as an elder son and heir apparent, and have asked why he did not ascend to the throne as co-regent. However, there is no instance where a king's son was appointed high priest and then succeeded to the throne. The lack of parallels may imply the opposite – that, if Thutmose was appointed high priest of Ptah, he was already excluded from the succession." Quirke mentions the cat sarcophagus, but he doesn't address the "crown prince" title. Maybe not all Egyptologists agree that the words that Dodson translates as "crown prince" actually mean that; maybe Quirke failed to read Dodson's article. I just thought, given that Dodson's view does not seem to be universal, that the article on Thutmose should avoid adopting that view in the title.

Maybe some more recent sources on the Amarna period can sort it out. A couple of books have been published since then, and they're probably easier to obtain than journal articles: ''Akhenaten: Egypt's False Prophet'' by Nicholas Reeves, and ''Akhenaten and Tutankhamun: Revolution and Restoration'' by David Silverman, Josef Wegner, and Jennifer Houser-Wegner. (Dodson published a book on Amarna in 2009, but it apparently begins with Akhenaten's Year 12 and presumably wouldn't address this issue.) A. Parrot (talk)

Looking for Anything Picture-wise for Your Ancient Egyptian Articles?



Hello there -- long time no speak! Sorry, have been busy with a number of things for a while, and have not been very active here since helping to bring the Rosetta Stone ↗ up to Featured status last year.

Business will take me to Cambridge, U.K. next week, and am planning on visiting the extensive Ancient Egyptian collection at the Fitzwilliam Museum ↗ while there and I plan on bringing my camera along (assuming non-flash photography is allowed). Is there anything you will like me to be on the look-out for to help illustrate any of the articles you have an interest in?

Cheers! Captmondo (talk) 15:47, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Sénakh-en-Rê Ahmès



Hello,

You can read our talk upon Sénakh-en-Rê Ahmès here ↗.

Sincerely, Néfermaât (talk) 07:58, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

:Hi Leoboudv,

:I thank you about your post on Senakht-en-Ra. Don't worry about, we have a talk with Nefermaât about the right method to change articles (Senakht-en-Ra, but Seqen-en-Ra and all relatives) and of course we will use the publication of Biston Moulin (I downloaded succesfully), the most complete publication we can have actually about the Karnak's discovery.

:We talked also about the numbers given in some case to now three pharaos with the ''sa Ra'' name of Ahmes, respectively :
:* Ahmes Senakht-en-Ra of the 17th dynasty.
:* Ahmes Neb-pety-Ra of the 18th dynasty.
:* Ahmes sa-Neith Khnem-ib-re of the 26th dynasty.
:About this last point of discussion precisely, we choose to not number these pharaos untill new egyptologicals sources.

:I will change it asap ;) Thank you again. Best regards.
:Sebi alias Neithsabes on Commons 01:20, 31 March 2012 (UTC) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding unsigned ↗ comment added by 89.93.128.163 ↗ (talk) </span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Ahhotep I


Many thanks for the remark on the picture in the German article of this queen. I checked that and the image is fine; it is just that the German articles have different numberings of both queens; Ahhotep I is Ahhotep II and vice versa. bw -- Udimu (talk) 09:12, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Diadem ↗


Many thanks for the pic of Antef's diadem. That is an amazing good picture (I am never manage to get any pics out of flickr!) bw -- Udimu (talk) 10:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
::the other similar crown, published by N. Reeves is now in the Fitzwilliam Museum in Cambridge.;-) bw -- Udimu (talk) 14:55, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
:::I saw the crown on display in the museum (try to find it on the museum database but could not find it, so do not have the museum number); they bought the crown about 5 years ago (please answer at the places where we started any discussion, ready the messages later i am always confussed abiut what was going on;-). bw -- Udimu (talk) 06:35, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Khufu ↗ II


It´s finally finished now. I have emended the part of the evaluations of the Greek traditions and other parts. Might satisfy you. Greetz;--Nephiliskos (talk) 08:12, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Fifa's policies on who gets Olympic medals...and who doesn't


I understand your point, each player on the roster gets a medal, if the team finished first, second or third. A team like Great Britain had one injured player and was replaced by an alternate, but since the team did not finish in first three positions, it did not matter. Japan and USA both received 18 medals for their second and first place finish. Presumably Canada received 18 bronze medals like other two teams. Canada has 20 players listed in the roster with none of the players reported to have been replaced. Looking at the statistics for the players at fifa.com, Zurrer and Booth did not play any minute, and therefore are actually alternates. To confuse the issue even more, Nicole Barnhart is a standby goal-keeper who did not play any minute but was on the roster and received a medal, and was seen presented a medal in the medal ceremony. Searching official websites of FIFA and Olympic does not reveal who actually received the medal. Best Regards, -- Harvardton (talk) 20:03, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Apepi (pharaoh) ↗


I had a look at the article and will work on it. I think the basic information are fine, just do not know what is that about the son Apepi (do not have the Dodson book here). What I always find difficult is the mixture of different sources. Some people refer to very general coffee-table books, other people refer to ''hardcore'' research publications; the result is a mixture of hard facts and opinions. They are often not clearly distinguished as facts and opinions. If objects are mentions I always like to refer to the publication of the objects; for conclusions and opinions I prefer more general books (still research publications). all the best -- Udimu (talk) 17:07, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Pictures from Cairo Museum


Hi there! Wow, that picture of the Senet game intrigued me. I put it here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senet ↗. Thx for telling, the pic of king Khafra is also fantastic! Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 02:49, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
:We should clearly show our gratitude to ddenise! Superb job! Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 03:00, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

New pictures



Dear Leoboudv, many thanks for the news of additional pictures you mentioned on my talk in the Dutch Wikipedia. Being an author I spend most of my time writing books and only scarcely look at my Wikipedia pages. But in the near future this will surely happen and I will arrange to fit in the images you made available in the right place with the right subtexts in the Dutch (and Flemish!) Wikipedia. Thanks again an kind regards. Ben Pirard (talk) 09:27, 14 March 2013 (UTC)


A treasure trove of pictures


Dear Leoboudv, I recently discovered a FlickR account with photos of hundreds of rarely seen objects and monuments. The FlickR account is : Juan R. Lázaro. I am currently in contact with the author of the photographies and he accepted enthusiastically that his photos be used on Wikipedia. How should we proceed in order to make sure that everything is alright when it comes to copyright ? Should he upload the photos on wikicommons himself or can I do it on his behalf ?

His photos are just amazing: he has photos of statues and artifacts representing obscur pharaohs of the SIP
like Mentuhotep VI, Sobekhotep II and Neferhotep II, photos of the treasures found in the tomb of Awibre Hor, photos of the funerary furniture of the queen of Sekhemresementawy Djehuty, photos of statues of Khafra that I had never seen, an artifact clearly mentioning a Ka house of Djet and many more things... It's an endless stream of rarely seen stuff. Iry-Hor (talk) 09:52, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Copyright barnstar



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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | This is a reward and a thank-you message for your precious help regarding the complicated world of copyrights ! Iry-Hor (talk) 16:07, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks



For the beautiful picture of Djesertetj's ivory label! What superb quality! It's a list of delivered linen for the king's afterlife. The inscription in the lower section describes different types of clothes such as bed sheets, shirts, nightgowns, vestments and even underwear. The central section names them or describes their size and colour. The upper section bears the reading "the king lives!", at the right several horus falcons are depicted, the line on which they sit ends in a ostrich feather (a symbol of light and harmony). Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 09:00, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

GAR



Akhenaten ↗, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page ↗. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Dana boomer (talk) 17:08, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Stephanie Cox cropped photo



By any chance did you delete the cropped photo of Stephanie Cox (used for the Women's football taskforce userbox) from Wikimedia Commons? The version you subbed is too big. Thanks. Hmlarson (talk) 17:15, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

This User's Images ↗


Shouldn't all this user's "free" images be speedily deleted since he had a history of copyright violations ↗ and typing in fake OTRS tickets--at least the ones without a real OTRS ticket? Just wondering. I am not really active on Wikipedia, more on Commons, but one of his images was transferred to Commons from Wikipedia here ↗ and I just tagged it as a probable copyvio. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 05:09, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
:I'm not sure why you're contacting me specifically, but I think this is one for WP:CCI ↗. Stifle (talk) 18:52, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Major blunder


Hello, I just noticed a '''major problem''' with the identification of Sobekhotep I and II. Recently, the tomb of Sobekhotep I was discovered in Abydos, however, the archeologists are actually referring to '''Sekhemre Khutawy Sobekhotep''' and not Khaankhre Sobekhotep. This is a big problem because on wikipedia the article Sobekhotep I points to '''Khaankhre Sobekhotep''' whom the archeologist would refer to as Sobekhotep II. The problem is further obscured by the fact that the dynastic position of Sekhemre Khutawy Sobekhotep is debated, with some egyptologists seeing him as the founder of the 13th dynasty and others believing it was Wegaf. In the latter case, Sekhemre Khutawy Sobekhotep would be Sobekhotep II and Khaankhre Sobekhotep I.
In any case, the mistake here is terrible because I and others have been editing the article Sobekhotep I ↗ with the discovery of the tomb when the rest of the article talk about Khaankhre Sobekhotep, who, regardless of the position of Sekhemre Khutawy Sobekhotep in the dynasty, is '''not the owner of the tomb'''. I should add that if we do not do this, people from all over the web who heard about the discovery of the tomb will type "Sobekhotep I" and end up on the page of Khaankhre Sobekhotep when archeologists talk about Sekhemre Khutawy Sobekhotep. Thus it is urgent to do something, and to avoid problems of who is I and II, we should just name the articles "Sekhemre Khutawy Sobekhotep" and "Khaankhre Sobekhotep".
I have Ryholt's book, Baker's book and the Petrie Museum website confirming this blunder. I do not know how to change an article title, so please help me!&#32;Iry-Hor (talk) 10:21, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
::Yes I finally did it after A. Parrot told me how to. Thanks anyway! I will soon edit the article further with an extended discussion of the chronological position of Sekhemre Khutawy Sobekhotep. &#32;Iry-Hor (talk) 09:24, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Yaqub-Har ↗ again


I just read the German wiki article on Yaqub-Har and they wrote something which surprised me: they identify him with Aper-Anati. Is that something stated somewhere by a reliable scholar? The German wiki source for this is here ↗, which is completely unhelpful and does not look very reliable to me. Do you know more on this ?&#32;Iry-Hor (talk) 15:44, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
::Allright, thanks anyway, it seems the German wiki is dead wrong on this one. At least neither von Beckerath, nor Ryholt and Baker see Aper-Anati as the same person as Yaqub-Har.&#32;Iry-Hor (talk) 21:49, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Copyright advice


Hello Leoboudv, I have a contact at the CNRS Centre Franco-Égyptien d'Étude des Temples de Karnak, he says CNRS can give permission for the use of its pictures to individual websites, however under the condition that the images cannot be reused on other websites without additional agreement on the CNRS behalf. He and I think that this will not do on wikicommons, but I just wanted to have your opinion on the matter.&#32;Iry-Hor (talk) 14:55, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
::Alright, thanks!&#32;Iry-Hor (talk) 10:36, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Ramses XI





Dear '''Leoboudv''',

Thank you for your response.

To correct a statement. You write:
''"The Turin Taxation Papyrus was called a papyrus by Thijs in GM 173 when it is actually just a houselist, I agree."
''

I'm afraid you are mistaken: the Turin Taxation Papyrus is indeed a papyrus, as stated correctly in GM 173. The Houselist, however, is a mere entry on P. BM 10068. You should not mix up the two. They are separate entities, as stated quite explicitly in GM 173. The Viceroy appears in the Turin Taxation Papyrus, not, as you suggest, in the houselist.

The issue of the return of Pinehesy has been dealt with extensively in

-Thijs, SAK 31 (2003), 289-306

-Thijs, SAK 35 (2006), 307-326

I hope you agree that, to be fair, rejection of the reappearance scenario in the pages of Wikipedia should at least incorporate the evidence given there, in order to give the readers the opportunity for a fair judgment. Merely stating that the reappearance of Pinehesy is 'impossible' or 'problematical' without reference to the actual evidence underlying the case for a reappearance would go against the very principles of scholarship.


There is nothing inherently wrong with someone returning to the stage after having fallen from grace. History is full of examples. E.g. Winston Churchill, who had become virtually persona non grata after the debacle of Gallipoli, but who gloriously returned to lead England in WW II.
This in itself is not an insurmountable problem and should not be presented as such, given that the author has provided detailed explanations to explain such a scenario.
To name but one thing: there is evidence suggesting that by year 10 Piankh may have set out to negotiate with Pinehesy rather than attack him. Such a scenario might readily explain his return. Other explanations are also possible. In fact, the onus is on the shoulders of anyone who would want to posit the very impossibility of a return to office of Pinehesy, given the complicated political situation of the time.


By the way, can you cite any hard objections given by Egyptologists against the possibility of a return? Do you know of any serious rebuttals of the theory as given in SAK 31 and 35 or is it only your assumption that this is the reason why "most Egyptologists" reject ascription to the Whm Mswt?


Rejecting a theory is easily done. By far the easiest way is to simply ignore it. That does not account for much. Rejection should be somewhat more than a gratuitous act.
It follows that, by definition, calling in the silent majority as active rejecters is also a bit tricky.
Perhaps the safest option is to assume that those who did not publicly take a stand should be treated as neutral-until-proven-otherwise.

On the other hand, Dodson's acceptance is based on a detailed study, which should account for something, especially since the theory he accepts is labeled quite controversial. He would never lay his head on the block if he had not carefully weighed the evidence.
BTW, Aston's remark is not as damaging as you suggest. He calls the theory "controversial" and "rejected by most Egyptologists" but also calls the crucial starting point hard to ignore. Why focus on the first part of his statement and not on the second?

Regarding the "rejected by most Egyptologists": you should also read

-Thijs, GM 240 (2014), 69ff

There it is made objectively clear that most objections raised so far are based on misinterpretations or faulty reasoning.

A case in point is the mistaken identity of the Chief Workman Nekhemmut as presented on the Wikipedia page. Every Egyptologist can tell you that he was the son of Chief Workman Khons (e.g. Bierbrier, Late New Kingdom, 30, Chart VIII) and not the son of Amenua. Contrary to what was suggested, these were clearly distinct individuals.
Still, this bit of sloppy research has been presented on Wikipedia for decades, if not years, as actual evidence against the case for a redistribution of sources to the Whm Mswt. I hope you agree that this should never have happened: a detailed theory has unnecessarily been damaged (to what extent?) by incorrect statements. IMHO, in most cases it is better not to contribute than to contribute material which is based on insufficient knowledge. That is the only way to keep Wikipedia a reliable source of information.

Likewise, the observation on the discrepancy in the titles of (Chief) Doorkeeper Dhuthotpe in P. Mayer A is misleading to the uninformed reader, since it should have been mentioned that the more modest title appears in an abandoned entry (see my previous TALK). It is a little strained to bring this case forward as ‘evidence against’, while one could even argue that the best way to explain the unfinished entry of 5.15 is to assume that it was abandoned precisely because exact titles mattered to the scribe! Whatever one's preferred explanation, given this undeniable ambiguity, I think the issue does not belong in Wikipedia. The reader should not be bothered with such minor issues which can be explained either way. Naturally, serious objections against the redistribution of sources to the Whm Mswt should be brought forward, but, especially with 'damaging' statements, one should be very, very carful, especially on a forum of non specialists as Wikipedia.

With kind regards,

Neferkere (talk) 00:35, 29 June 2014 (UTC)


::Hello, I write here without opening a new section because the two subjects are related; is about an edit by User:Neferkere in the article Wehem Mesut ↗, I can't check one of the two sources cited by him/her and I obviously assume good faith, but I'm not sure if stating that "Kitchen's argumentation is clearly erroneous" would be fine as it is. I mean, Kitchen seems to have committed an error indeed, but I guess that there is no way we simple wiki users can judge if a scholar is wrong. Assuming that the sentence is Thijs' claim, how can we rewrite it in a more properly form? Khruner (talk) 16:42, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
::Yes, I know Neferkere's right, but my concern was about the aforementioned sentence; do you think it's okay to leave it as it is? Khruner (talk) 18:37, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks for your edit, Leoboudv. Maybe I'll try to find this article too. Khruner (talk) 19:20, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
::True, he most likely had fixed his opinion about this graffito in the timeframe 1995-2007, when there was the conference. I guess this is not uncommon, just compare the standard TIPE (1972) with the later supplement (1986); just an example, the reign length of Iuput I, and so on. Khruner (talk) 23:15, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
: In Kitchen's TIPE 1995 book, he assigned graffito 1393 to the reign of Siamun after I checked my TIPE book carefully here. I made an edit ↗ here. Goodbye, --Leoboudv (talk) 20:53, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
:: To Siamun? I think you mean Smendes (Year 12), and that you have checked § 382, no. 23. Same here, anyway. Khruner (talk) 21:15, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
: You are correct. Kitchen assigned it to Smendes...and I have corrected that information now. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 22:08, 2 July 2014 (UTC)






Dear Leoboudv,


You wrote: ''"I have edited the Houselist to say it is a document and not called it a papyrus."''
I am afraid this is not an improvement: the houselist is '''not''' a document. It is a mere entry on papyrus BM 10068.

You wrote: ''"I Do agree with you that a rejection of the reappearance scenario in the pages of Wikipedia should at least incorporate the evidence given there, in order to give the readers the opportunity for a fair judgment. If you have some evidence, please feel free to incorporate it into the Ramesses XI article."''

I am afraid I find your stance a little strange, if not incorrect. Personally, if I were informed that an author whose theory I have publically called “impossible” (which is quite a bold statement, I hope you will agree) has elsewhere given ample evidence which I have not read, I would retract my explicit damning statement until I had done my homework. Simply reintroducing your original statement (“''However, this is not possible since the viceroy Pinehesy was listed ...in the Year 12 Turin taxation papyrus''”) is hardly doing the readers of Wikipedia a service. The readers do not know that the theory you condemn so vehemently is one you are only poorly informed about. How can you condemn this scenario as if you are an expert on the subject if you haven’t even read SAK 31 and SAK 35?

You seem to suggest that I have been trying to present ideas as ‘facts’. Please give me one example where I did that. If I did, I will be the first to remove that entry, since it is my only aim to present recent discussions in Egyptology in an objective and factual way.
So far, I believe that your “impossible” statement is exactly what you more or less accused me of: your own idea presented as a ‘fact’.


You wrote: ''“I know what Thijs says about the titles but the omission of the title 'Chief' Doorkeeper is important shows that the ancient scribes were not consistent in recording people's status in society occasionally in their documents”.
''
Once again, I find your reaction not ''comme il faut''. Now that you have been informed that one of the entries was actually abandoned by the scribe, possibly because he realised that he had just written down an incorrect title for Dhuthotpe, you can’t just return to your original statement as if this alternative is not relevant. It could be argued that by simply reintroducing this bit into the Wikipedia page of Ramesses XI you are actively misinforming readers. The very example you present to them for your point of view can be turned upside down and just as easily used to show that the scribes did care about correct titles. The first time around you didn't know this. The second time you did not have that excuse. Also here, you present your own onsesided idea as ‘fact’, actively withholding the uninformed reader the alternative explanation, which, as you said yourself is a disservice to Wikipedia (and harmful to someone else's theory, we might add).


You recently wrote on the Ramesses XI page:
''“Henceforth, Piankh acting on Ramesses XI's authority expelled Pinehesy from Upper Egypt in a series of civil wars until Year 10 or Year 11 of the whm-mswt (when Piankh returned from his Nubian campaigns and likely died to be succeeded in office by Herihor) and Pinehesy disappears from Egypt's political history. This demonstrates that the Taxation papyrus—and its near contemporary, the House-list, pre-date the whm-mswt era and actually belong to Year 12 proper of Ramesses XI when he was not an enemy of king Ramesses XI. Hence, the House-list must be assigned to Year 12 of Ramesses XI before the whm-mswt started.”''

-There is absolutely no hard evidence to link Piankh to Pinehesy prior to year 10 Whm Mswt. As you well know, it has always been thought that Herihor preceded Piankh. We know absolutely nothing about the role played by Piankh (if any!) during the suppression of Amenhotep. Neither do we know for certain what Piankh set out to do in year 10 Whm Mswt.

-And "a whole series of civil wars"? What is your primary evidence for this? I don't think many Egyptologists will want to call the expedition of year 10 a civil war.

-To conclude from statements during year 1 and 2 of the Whm Mswt that Pinehesy must of necessity still have been an enemy a decade later is a giant leap of faith. I know scores of people (or countries) who were friends, fell out, but later made up again. It is ''possible'' that he was still an enemy in year 10, but this is by no means hard fact. Therefore, it should not be presented as such. You cannot disprove a theory by merely stating another theory...

Neferkere (talk) 19:39, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Dhutmose says in LRL 4 papyrus that Piankh is going to the place in Nubia...where Pinehesy is. That is clear enough evidence that Piankh knows Pinehesy (the former Viceroy of Kush) and they are connected somehow in time to each other as most scholars view. The Houselist is a list--that is fair--it is a list on a papyrus document but no Egyptologist accept Thijs' theories that Ramesses IX and X were contemporary with Ramesses except Dodson--and even now Aston has pointed out that Dodson's chronology has problems because he has to date Ramesses II's accession at 1265 BC to make Thijs' theory work but it cannot work since Horemheb had a 14 year reign--not 26 or 27 years--(everyone accepts this today) which means that Ramesses II likely ruled earlier in time at perhaps 1279 BC or even 1290 BC. Karl Jansen Winkeln, Von Beckerath Rolf Krauss rejects Thijs ideas and no one has made his ideas work with Egypt's 19th and 20th century chronology. Thijs says in his 2003 SAK paper that Pinehesy was pardoned by Ramesses XI after all the years of war (and death and misery) he caused and allowed to return and even serve as viceroy of Kush again in Year 12 of the whm-mswt but I don't accept this--since this is just a theory by Thijs to make his ideas work. THE TEST is this....if Pinehesy was really pardoned why was he never mentioned again in Egypt's records and why did the High Priests of Amun who succeeded pharaoh in Upper Egypt<u>also lose</u> control of Kush? The answer is logical: Pinehesy was ''Never'' pardoned and simply remained in Kush where he died far away from the authority of Egypt--after all the pain and deaths that his conflict caused with Ramesses XI. This is not a giant leap of faith at all. This means that the Year 12 Houselist likely dates to the pre-whm-mswt era...unless you accept Thijs 'theory' that there were 2 separate Viceroys of Kush conveniently named Pinehesy--the second who served in Yr 12 of the whm-mswt. I don't and most Egyptologists don't either. Until most Egyptologists (except Dodson) accept Thijs ideas, I suggest you don't post them in Ramesses XI's article since they will fail verifiability. We don't put one person's <u>speculative</u> theories in an article until most scholars accept them.



Nekauba



Hello, I have seen your recent edits on Nekauba. I admit that I have only Ryholt's article while I never read Perdu's one, but I got confused while reading about Tefnakht I and II; you wrote that Tefnakht II is well attested and that exist a donation stela dating to him, and later that Necho I would have been Tefnakht I's immediate successor. Maybe I don't know something important from Perdu's article, but I feel that it should be more logical to swap the ordinal numbers of the two Tefnakhts here... Khruner (talk) 10:07, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

::I'm sorry, I probably messed with my English, since we are agreeing to the same thing. Let me explain:
:*We both agree that — assuming that Ryholt is right — Necho I was Tefnakht II's immediate successor, but the article says that Necho I was <u>Tefnakht I</u> immediate successor, and this obviously could not be true;
:*The article also says that Tefnakht II was well attested and that exist a donation stela dating to him, but as far as I known Tefnakht II is completely unattested, even his name is temptative (a reading of Stephinates) so how can exist a stela dating to his reign, i. e. presumably carrying his name? So I guessed that the well attested Tefnakht must be Tefnakht I instead, and that the stela should be datable to his reign. I hope now is more clear what I meant. Khruner (talk) 09:06, 30 July 2014 (UTC)


::I am very sorry but I see that I can't make myself understood, I have to blame my English but I want to try again since I feel this is important. I simply can't dare to change the numbering system for two reasons: I am not an academic and I <u>completely agree</u> with the actual numbering system which includes two Tefnakhts (note that there is no ''Shepsesre Stephinates''):
::*''Tefnakht I Shepsesre, Tnephachthos/Technatis'' in Greek. The father of Bakenranef, quite well attested by monuments and Greek sources;
::*''Tefnakht II, Stephinates'' in Greek. The father of Necho I as for Ryholt, only reported by Manetho (Eusebius, Africanus) and ''possibly'' only attested on Ryholt's papyrus, so quite not enough to be the "well attested" Tefnakht as reported on Nekauba's article.<br/>
::I would ask you to please read again the part of Perdu's paper where is mentioned the donation stela of Tefnakht II, as I am rather sure even without reading it (I can't) that the donation stela belongs to Tefnakht I instead. If the stela had really belonged to Tefnakht II, it would have been a rather sensational discovery since it would provide the earliest archaeological evidence of a proto-saite dynasty ruler. In addition to what I write, I'll make the change that I thought to do to the Nekauba article so you can double-check what I mean, and you can eventually keep it or reject it. Khruner (talk) 09:00, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
::EDIT: Basing on what is said on Tefnakht II ↗'s article, Perdu noted that a stela of Year 2 of Necho I is similar in style to a stela of Year 8 of Tefnakht I. He then claimed that the two kings must have lived closer in time, and stated that Tefnakht I ruled some decades later than the mainstream vision, shortly before Necho I. Even assuming that Perdu is right (and most Egyptologist thinks otherwise) he never states that the Year 2 stela belongs to Tefnakht II. Khruner (talk) 10:48, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

::Same here, my University doesn't have the journal I needed. And again same here, I think that Ryholt made a little mistake. Khruner (talk) 13:28, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
::It's the University of Bologna ↗, in Italy, but I have to say that my field of study and my interest in ancient Egypt are completely unrelated... Khruner (talk) 23:53, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
::I see. Some times ago I and Iry-Hor were close to contact Ryholt about a question, but we resolved it before e-mailing him. And in the future maybe I will try to contact Olaf Kaper if he doesn't publish the article about the disappearance of the lost army of Cambyses, but I'm definitely going off topic... Khruner (talk) 23:06, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Pharoahs


I redirected today, that's why. It was terribly unsourced article and had nothing in it which the main article did not. I think it will stay without controversy. Cosprings (talk) 22:03, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Seti I duration of reign



Hello Leoboudv, I have added van Dijk and Aston's suggestions about the duration of reign of Seti I based on the Jebel Barkal stela, maybe you should check it. I have also enjoyed Schneider's ↗ 2010 paper, and I think that I'll consider to write a small wikipedia article about Maakheperre Shoshenq. Sadly, the other documents you suggested to me to read (i.e. the most recent A&E volumes) are for some reasons untraceable in my university, and I have mentioned Aston's paper in Seti's article only ''by fide''... --Khruner (talk) 13:17, 26 September 2014 (UTC)


About a 22nd Dynasty relief



Hello Leoboudv, while I was looking for some useful pics in Lepsius' ''Denkmaeler'' I found a 22nd Dynasty relief that I like to show you. Here's a link to the ''Denkmaeler'' Abth. III ↗, choose Band VIII and search for page 257. In my opinion the king depicted twice with Amun-Ra is Takelot II; on the right scene he is followed by his son the HPA Osorkon B (the future king Osorkon III), while on the left he repeated the scene with his father instead, the HPA Nimlot. If you can confirm/dismiss my hypothesis, please take your time and tell me... --Khruner (talk) 17:02, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

::That's fine, I asked to you due to the fact that I think you are possibly the most confident with the TIP among the Egyptophiles I know here, but I had not taken into account the German problem, thank you anyway. Khruner (talk) 18:36, 5 October 2014 (UTC)


Dianne Watts



Just for future reference, since you recently objected to the removal of the names of Dianne Watts' family members from her article, Wikipedia has an explicit policy, spelled out at WP:BLPNAME ↗, that if a family member (spouse, daughter, parent, whatever) is not independently notable in their own right, then they may be named in the notable subject's article ''only'' if that inclusion is ''explicitly'' supported by a reliable source ↗. You can't just insert it unsourced on the basis that "everybody knows" — everybody in the entire world ''doesn't'' already know that, because everybody in the entire world doesn't live in Surrey. It's a matter of protecting the family's personal privacy ↗ rights — the information has to be referenced to a ''reliable'' (not primary ↗) source, or it can't be in the article at all. Bearcat (talk) 21:16, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks for adding the source. You seemed a bit defensive about it in your edit summary though, so I just wanted to assure you that it's perfectly appropriate and acceptable for the information to be there if you're adding a proper source to support it. That's not something you need to make a special argument to justify — we're just not allowed to include it ''without'' a source, that's all. Bearcat (talk) 03:58, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

PS: I don't know if user Walter Görlitz read this but according to page 13 of the Thursday December 4, 2014 issue of the Surrey-North Delta community paper, Linda Hepner ↗ and the new Surrey council will be sworn into office on December 8. If Walter is in Surrey, maybe he can also confirm the info independently and make the changes on December 8 for naming Surrey's new mayor as I edit sporadically on Wikipedia...and am more active on Commons ↗ But I've been busy with work this week. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 09:17, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Osorkon IV



Hello Leoboudv, I worked on Osorkon IV's article lately and I'm thinking to propose it as a good article. If you have some spare time in the future, I would appreciate any comment and correction from you since you are a connoisseur of the period, and I will be very grateful if you could eventually fix a bit of English phrasing if needed. Khruner (talk) 18:21, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

::Many thanks for the copyedit. Cheers, Khruner (talk) 13:33, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Sobeknakht II



Hi Leoboudv, sorry about Sobeknakht II ↗, I didn't want to say that Al-Ahram is unreliable (I use it sometimes too), but having found the original paper by Davies describing the Kushite invasion, I though that this was the best secondary source ↗ available in the article, because Al-Ahram certainly referred to it. Anyway what is right is right. Cheers, Khruner (talk) 13:24, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

About the news of Tutankhamen's tomb


Well, at a first glance it seems sensational. But, as somehow always, I somehow miss the evidences. Nice if some Egyptologist claims he had found new rooms, new mummies, new treasure... blaah, blaah, blaah. It's the same with allegedly new serekhs found in hard-to find desert areas: "oooh, a new serekh! That must be a new pharaoh!" Until they find out that the "new" ruler is in fact already known or the serekh just shows a seldomly used short form of an already known king. So what? I miss proves. Where are the pictures of the allegedly erased cartouche? Where are the documents of the radar screeneng? And so on... Let's just wait, I bet we will never hear from the "sensation" ever again... ;)) Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 22:36, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
Reeves says the pharaoh who created the KV62 tomb was always Ankheperure Nefeneferutaen (ie. Nefertiti) in his two academia articles. And no one thought that Tutankhamun's very small tomb had an extension until Reeves suggested this idea. Reeves also thought that Tutankhamun's funerary mask was built originally for Ankheperure Nefeneferutaen and now Egytologists have found an earlier cartouche (partially erased) on the mask which reads as Ankheperure. (see p.527 of this article ↗) and this important newspaper article ↗ But, I agree...we should wait until Egyptologists have seen this new hidden corridor to decide if it is indeed Nefertiti's tomb in the Valley of the Kings. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 23:19, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


I have read those articles. Ok, the argument about the pierced earlobes is quite interesting. Indeed, I don't know any royal posthum monument that shows kings with earrings. But, they shall open the alleged new chambers and investigate it. Maybe this will finally give some answers. Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 09:44, 29 November 2015 (UTC)


I've read it. If, if, ocean cliff...^^ Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 09:22, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

It IS interesting, no doubt about that. But: I'm always very cautious about press releases, especially the Egyptian press has a strong Boulevard character. They simply tend to exaggerate and early jump to conclusions. It remembers me of the alleged "new rooms" in the Khufu pyramid. Big blah, nothing behind. Again, let's wait until credible articles appear in scientific magazines. That's better. The only thing that actually makes me fuzzy about the story: if true, Egyptology has to wonder as to how many other, seemingly small royal tombs may hide secret rooms. Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 11:09, 30 November 2015 (UTC)


Reeves identification of Tutankhamun's mask as belonging to Nefertiti was first published in this scholarly paper: N. Reeves, Journal of Ancient Egyptian Interconnections ↗ "The gold mask of Ankhkheperure Neferneferuaten", Vol. 7:4 (2015), pp. 77-79 I don't know if this proves that Nefertiti was buried as a Queen as Dodson writes but this might be true. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 21:33, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Article Neithhotep



Lady Neithhotep has now an updated article ↗. ;o) Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 23:26, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Star Trek images



FWIW, the same person did this some time ago with ''The Twilight Zone'' episodes, all of which have their own articles too. While I'd been able to find quite a few which were PD, most to all of those which weren't, were deleted. This happened about 2-3 years ago. Over time. I've been able to replace some of them with PD photos, but there just isn't any way I'll ever find PD photos for all the ones deleted. We hope (talk) 04:07, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank You


Thanks for the link to the article about a conjectured Ramesses XII. I had not seen it and much appreciate the information. Friendly greetings Anneke AB (talk) 14:10, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

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I'm disappointed that you have recreated the article, and just cut and pasted text from the touregypt.net site like you did before. Actually, I agree that the location merits an article in Wikipedia, but you cannot create such an article by copying other people's words verbatim.

I'm going to give you the opportunity to remove all infringing material, and summarise it in your own words. I'll look back in a while and if it's still there I will renominate the article for speedy deletion as a copyright violation ↗. SunloungerFrog (talk) 15:17, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Changing all your copyvio to quotations is not especially helpful. We write our own content.Diannaa (talk) 23:37, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Silver boats belonging to (a) Queen Ahhotep



Hi Leoboudv -- I just wanted to comment on the brief mention and image of the silver boats that you recently added to Ahhotep I ↗. The boats are neat, but I'm not sure they belong in this article. As discussed in the "Debate over different Ahhoteps ↗" section, there are two known burial sites for Egyptian queens named Ahhotep (Dra' Abu el-Naga' and Deir el-Bahari), and modern scholars have gradually ascribed to the theory that these are likely to have been two distinct queens, with "Ahhotep I" (mother of Pharaoh Ahmose I) now being more clearly assigned to the Deir el-Bahari burial site instead. According to the source you have cited, the silver boats were found at the Dra' Abu el-Naga' site, which has been proposed to be the burial site of a second Queen Ahhotep, who was not the mother of a pharaoh. I know the Dra' Abu el-Naga' site has a lot of interesting artifacts, but they may not belong to the Queen Ahhotep I who is covered in this Wikipedia article. Alanna the Brave (talk) 00:37, 28 January 2025 (UTC)


I am afraid that you are incorrect here. Even the Egyptian Museum assigns "A Silver Boat of Queen Ahhotep" in this Reference ↗ Museum Catalogue No JE 4682 and if you scroll to the bottom of the page, you can see and even click on the page. One boat was a donation of king Ahmose to a certain Ahhotep:

Hans Ollermann, an Admin of the Egyptian Museum Treasures on flickr, took a pictures of 2 boats known for Queen Ahhotep as you see this photo: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Two_gold_and_silver_boats_from_Ahhotep_I%E2%80%99s_tomb.jpg

The second boat is assumed to be a donation by Kamose to Ahhotep I as this Source ↗ says. BUT...both boats were found in Ahhotep I's tomb.

The Egyptian Museum Description clearly says: "Because travel depended on the River Nile, the custom of including model boats in tomb goods began in very ancient times. Boats were thought to be essential to the deceased for their journeys in the afterlife. "'''This is one of Several model boats made of gold and silver.''' This miniature boat was found on top of a chariot in the tomb of Queen Ahhotep. It is less detailed than other models, since it has only the oarsmen and the helmsman on board."

The Egyptian Museum clearly says that there were at least 2 boat models in Queen Ahhotep I's tomb. By the way, did you see this flickr photo ↗ of the second Queen Ahhotep I boat. If it is Ahhotep II, then the evidence has to be clear. All I know is that the tomb of Ahhotep I was found almost intact and Ahmose would surely honour his mother, Ahhotep I a lot more than Ahhotep II, the wife of Kamose. Of course, the boat in Ahhotep I's article...could be by Kamose for Ahhotep II, his presumed chief queen. If true, please feel free to reuse it in Ahhotep II's article or for Kamose's article as I have no objection.

Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 02:28, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

I think you are right now and have moved the images to Ahhotep II ↗ and Kamose ↗'s wikipedia articles. One problem with the Egyptian sources is that they just say Queen Ahhotep, not Ahhotep I or Ahhotep II. Secondly, the bracelet image ↗ says it was also found in Dra' Abu el-Naga' which suggests it should not be used in Ahhotep I ↗'s article. But...if this is true, what items truly belong to Ahhotep I? From your words, even these photos here ↗, and here ↗ and these 2 boats ↗ all belong to Ahhotep II....and nothing for Ahhotep I? Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 03:24, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks Leoboudv. You're right about the Dra' Abu el-Naga' bracelet image -- for consistency (and to avoid confusion), that should probably be removed from Ahhotep I as well! The fluid use of "Queen Ahhotep" in various sources really does complicate research; from what I've read, the two burial sites seem to be the primary way of differentiating which Ahhotep is being discussed in relation to physical artifacts, and the only physical artifact that's generally agreed to belong to the Deir el-Bahari queen is the coffin itself. I agree it's frustrating that the Ahhotep I article is left without other burial artifacts, and I think it's a situation where we just have to wait for new published research to emerge -- maybe scholars will unearth new evidence in future (something to more clearly connect some artifacts with the Deir el-Bahari queen). Best, Alanna the Brave (talk) 13:28, 28 January 2025 (UTC)



Parentheses for page titles



Hi Leoboudv, per WP:NC() ↗, pages with similar names are distinguished by either parentheses or commas, so it should be Maya (treasurer) not Maya--treasurer :) Merytat3n (talk) 09:50, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
I am trying to source images for Maya and Meryt's tomb from Saqqara from flickr. But unfortunately whenever I send a flickrmail to a copyright owner, the flickrmail I send to the person I am trying to get the images from on flickr does nor work with brackets. It fails to reach the wikipedia article and they get a failed 404 message. The flickrmail only works with dashes such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya--treasurer People on flickr will not allow images to be licensed freely for articles on wikipedia that they cannot see sadly. Flickr relies on an older flickrmail system....but it is the only way to get free images today. Please give me 48 hours at least. NOTE: All 3 images here in Ay's Amarna tomb over here ↗ were sourced by me from people on flickr. Here are my last 50 images ↗ uploaded from my Wikimedia Commons account. I know of one person who may license two images from Maya and Meryt's tomb at Saqqara and have sent a message to her on flickr using this url already: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya--treasurer Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 11:03, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

The person on flickr agreed to license these two images here as CC BY SA 2.0 here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mahu_Prays_to_the_God_Aten_in_Amarna_Tomb_9.jpg and here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mahu_rides_his_chariot_in_Amarna_Tomb_9.jpg

Unfortunately, the flickr person who I contacted to get 2 nice photos of Maya and Meryt's Saqqara tomb has not responded yet. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 23:26, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

:Thank you for the clarification and your work so far :) Would it be worth putting an FYI message about page titles changing briefly and the reasoning on the Ancient Egypt wiki project talk page? Merytat3n (talk) 02:03, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

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This article renaming ↗ makes no apparent sense and had no edit summary to explain it. I have reverted that. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 05:58, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
I may have been trying to source a flickr photo for an article. Unfortunately, the flickrmail system is old in design and a wikipedia link that includes brackets is not viewable by the flickr account owner of a photo of this person's tomb. I got flickr images licensed freely on Commons for these articles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TT218 , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TT219 , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QV44 but not this article sadly. If the flickr person cannot see the wikipedia article, they won't license an image freely. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 06:11, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
:I'm glad to see the new image in the article! —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 01:51, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

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Hi. It looks like you've put a significant amount of work into the Neferneferuaten ↗ page, so I'm flagging this as a courtesy before making the edits myself. The length of the article is affecting the readability. See WP:CANYOUREADTHIS ↗. In addition, it looks like you've tried to use block quotes to get around rules on copyright, even though you've been admonished for this by other editors for other articles. Wikipedia standards suggest not using many block quotes. See MOS:BLOCKQUOTE ↗:

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The excessive block quotes do not add significantly to the topic of the article and should be summarized and removed. If you'd like the opportunity to do so, please do. If not, I will be working on rewrites for readability in the next few weeks.

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I thought you did a good job cutting back the article already and making it more comprehensible to readers. The Amarna period is one of the most difficult periods for Egyptologists to study because most of the evidence here was destroyed by later kings especially Horemheb and Seti I/Ramesses II. The reign of Neferneferuaten ↗ is very important because her funerary goods were reused by Tutankhamun which means she was Tutankhamun's immediate predecessor and it appears that she may have made the first tentative steps to compromise between the Amun and Aten factions in Egypt. But she still ruled from Amarna like Akhenaten. It also appears that she was likely Nefertiti which makes the Neferneferuaten ↗ article very important. Aidan Dodson also wrote a 2020 book titled Nefertiti, Queen and Pharaoh of Egypt.

I would note that the 2014 Athena van der Perre article on the discovery of the Year 16 graffito of Nefertiti and its implications is 36 pages long (pp.67-102) before you even reach the footnotes while the Nozomu Kawai article (which I have a PDF copy is 12 pages long (pp.109-121). Quoting a few parts of them is not excessive at all since it deals directly on the topic of whether Nefetiti was Neferneferuaten. Kawai is probably one of the leading experts on this female pharaoh too. So, both their views views are highly relevant here. Their articles are not short 3 to 4 page articles.

PS: One small chronological table is useful for readers to find the approximate locations of the Amarna and post-Amarna rulers including Tutankhamun and Ay who were removed from Egyptian history by Horemheb which was why I added it back. Thanks and Have a good day. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 20:29, 6 December 2025 (UTC)


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