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Your GA ↗ nomination of The Waste Land ↗

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: Great work; I think it's a really good and informative article now, by the way. I hope you found the process helpful. If you'd like to review one of my articles, they're there in the list of Language and literature GANs awaiting a reviewer ... it'd be much appreciated. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you for your review! I'll gladly return the favour when I can carve out the time. Ligaturama (talk) 09:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Your GA ↗ nomination of The Waste Land ↗

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Welcome to the drive!

Welcome, welcome, welcome Ligaturama! I'm glad that you are joining the
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Liszt

Nice job cleaning up Liszt so far. What are your plans for it? '''Aza24 (talk)''' 06:33, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

:Thanks! I'm working on a section on his relationships with other composers, and I think the biography section needs more work, but after that I think I'll put it forward for GA review to give myself a sense of closure (if I'm not completely burnt out). The FA process seems too intimidating! Ligaturama (talk) 08:37, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
::Yeah, biography could use some citation clean up, but looks good overall. I think the legacy section is the biggest gap; I like your additions to the teaching section, but we need more on influence and reputation. Check out how this is done at Josquin des Prez#Legacy ↗, Claude Debussy#Influence on later composers ↗ or Frédéric Chopin#Reception and influence ↗, for some ideas. Obviously these three are FAs, so the Liszt could have a smaller scale for that section, and since each are suited for the specific composer, Liszt's will have to be as well.
::GA is a great goal. Let me know when you nominate it there—I would be happy to review it. '''Aza24 (talk)''' 02:12, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
:::Yeah you're right, I did kind of swerve the legacy of his compositions, partly because I felt that it belongs more in Musical works of Franz Liszt ↗, and I haven't come across a huge amount written just on that topic. It does look extremely sparse though, I'm sure I can flesh it out. Thanks a lot for the examples and the offer of a GA review, I'll give you a message after I nominate. Ligaturama (talk) 08:25, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

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Your GA ↗ nomination of Franz Liszt ↗

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Liszt GAN

Hey, I'm happy to help out with the Liszt GAN while you're away (i.e. do the copy & pasting of notes references asked by CurryTime). I can also try and address some of my own comments. Would that be okay? '''Aza24 (talk)''' 16:53, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

:Thanks, that would be really great if you could! Your suggestions were all perfectly valid as far as I'm concerned, I have a small comment on one of them that I'll put in a reply to it so that everything relevant is there on the same page. Ligaturama (talk) 17:58, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
::Hey, I completely forgot about this (was just reminded via my talk page on the GAN page), my apologies. I fear I'm too busy to commit to helping out much, but I'll see if I can squeeze in some effort these coming days. '''Aza24 (talk)''' 18:26, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
:::No problem! I won't address your comments during the GA process, because that would make it harder to get across the finish line and clearly both CurryTime and I are also busy. But of course I have no objection if you do it yourself, and/or I'll take another look post-GA when I have some more time. Ligaturama (talk) 18:38, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Your GA ↗ nomination of Franz Liszt ↗

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Stravinsky

Hello! Seeing as you worked Liszt up to GA, I thought you'd be interested in a PR I just opened ↗ on Igor Stravinsky ↗, with hopes for a future FAC. Any comments would be much appreciated if you find time- thanks! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me ↗) (also not me ↗) (still no ↗) 20:33, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

:Hello again! Wanted to let you know that Stravinsky is now at FAC. It seems that Tim riley didn't get the ping when I notified him on the PR (probably because I closed it before pinging him) so I wanted to ensure you got the notification- thanks! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me ↗) (also not me ↗) (still no ↗) 21:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

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You are recipient no. 2939 ↗ of Precious, a prize of QAI ↗. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
:I was wondering who had brought Liszt to GA! Thanks for bringing another of the first Romantic generation to this milestone. :)
:(Now I don't suppose we can have Bellini? :D) Double sharp (talk) 10:17, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
:Thank you for this Gerda! It was very kind of you. Ligaturama (talk) 17:25, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Percy Bysshe Shelley

Hello there

Is there a policy or convention regarding the use of maiden names for spouses in the info box? Shelley's first wife is given as Harriet Westbrook so it would be consistent to style his second wife Mary Godwin. She is also referred to as Mary Godwin in the article up to the point of her marriage to Shelley. I think this outweighs any confusion which might be caused to casual readers who only look at the info box and not the article. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 08:08, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

:Hiya - existing policy/docs such as MOS:BIRTHNAME ↗ and WP:NCP ↗ seem to just be around article titles or when the person in question is the article subject, but the guidance on the "spouse" entry in Template:Infobox person ↗ says "{{tq|Use article title (if linking) or common name}}", both of which are of course Mary Shelley. As infoboxes are meant to impart useful information at a glance, it seems sensible to me to use the name she is known for (her marriage predates any significant work as far as I'm aware), rather than having people click through wondering who Mary Godwin is and being redirected to Mary Shelley.
:I see your point about consistency with Westbrook; to me the difference is that she isn't independently notable under either name, so I think it's less important which name she's put under. I disagree that we should prioritise people reading his biography over "casual" infobox readers; if anything I think that's a reason to keep her as Shelley in the infobox, to cater for people wanting a short summary without unnecessary confusion.
:If you want to start a conversation on the talk page to see what others think then I can copy this response to there, but I think keeping consistency with the infobox guidelines is the way to go. Ligaturama (talk) 09:54, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for the response. I see your reasoning, and we only occasionally have people changing it to Godwin. (They are more likely to confuse her with Mary Wollstonecraft!) Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 21:59, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

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You made a mistake..reference include British Parliament and UK gazette

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Reference with British Parliament

Harlette ↗ commenced a PhD in space telecommunications 2015, King's College London ↗ invited to British delegation of ITU ↗ 2016-2020 Geneva and awarded title of UN ↗ Expert through UNOOSA ↗ Vienna 2024 published twice UK Parliament ↗ Defence Sub Committee space security NASA ↗ <nowiki><ref>{{cite web |title=Harlette Space Security|url=

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Why has the Nationality and Date of Birth been removed

Blp this page had the nationality the education and the date of birth which was removed today why? The page hasn't had a problem with date of birth nationality with any other updates. How is the United Nations and International Telecommunications Union poorly sourced or controversial how is the UK Parliament papers controversial or poorly sourced they are governments servers in the United Kingdom. The Book is uploaded into an Australian Library Archives that is the format. why is a United Nations expert considered controversial or poory sourced.Do you have better suggestions other than to remove the information thats been there for many years. David Cameron date of Birth is on his page Theresa May date of birth is on the page many fashion designers have theie date of birth why is this page being vandalised today LuxuryUK72 (talk) 09:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

:The date of birth needs to have a reliable source per WP:DOB ↗. Your sentence {{tq|Harlette commenced a PhD in space telecommunications 2015, King's College London invited to British delegation of International Telecommunications Union 2016-2020 Geneva and awarded title of United Nations Expert through United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs Vienna 2024 published twice UK Parliament Defence Sub Committee space security NASA}} was impenetrable, but nevertheless the sources clearly didn't support many of its assertions. And anyone can self-publish a book, I think it's misleading to then describe that person as an "author". Ligaturama (talk) 10:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

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Edit reversion

Hello. Regarding the reversion from me adding serial commas, they are found throughout the rest of the article, so I am just curious about why we are not being consistent about their usage. Thank you for your time and be well. Examples from the article:
"As a token of respect for Roman religion, however, Elagabalus joined either Astarte, Minerva, Urania, or some combination of the three to Elagabal as consort. A union between Elagabal and a traditional goddess would have served to strengthen ties between the new religion and the imperial cult. There may have been an effort to introduce Elagabal, Urania, and Athena as the new Capitoline Triad of Rome—replacing Jupiter, Juno, and Minerva."
"The most sacred relics from the Roman religion were transferred from their respective shrines to the Elagabalium, including the emblem of the Great Mother, the fire of Vesta, the Shields of the Salii, and the Palladium, so that no other god could be worshipped except in association with Elagabal."
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:Apologies, I didn't properly review that edit in context. I've reverted my revert. Ligaturama (talk) 07:21, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you for your response. I hope I did not send you the "reversion" message twice, as when I logged into my account the message appeared on-screen as if it had not been sent. I am so sorry if I sent it a second time! Thank you and take care! Lime green k (talk) 23:12, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

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Not understanding why changes and deletions that are incorrect have been done to a living person entry Robert Corich
Please explain McMalcolm (talk) 11:48, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

:I don't know what incorrect changes you're referring to; I went through the references on that article and removed anything that wasn't verified by them, per WP:V ↗. Anything relevant to the article that can be supported by a reliable source (WP:RS ↗) can be reinstated.
:Discussions about changes to an article are best conducted on the article's talk page to allow other editors to be involved. Ligaturama (talk) 17:52, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
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:::I think I've explained my removals, and the deletion rationale was explained on the PROD message and on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Corich ↗. Ligaturama (talk) 08:23, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

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T. S Eliot, Vivienne and Emily Hale. Please undo

T.S Eliot features in all four books of The Eliot Quartet by Steven Carroll
Vivien features in the last book of the Quartet
Emily Hale is a character along with T.S. Eliot in the first book of the Quartet and Emily Hale is the main character in third book of the Quartet. Steven Carroll's Quarter is award winning and highly regarded. Lakelady2282 (talk) 12:01, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

:Per my edit summaries, Carroll's article is not relevant to the articles you linked him on, although it may be the case that ''those'' articles are relevant to ''his'' and so should be linked from there. Knowing that Carroll featured Vivien Eliot and Emily Hale in his work is irrelevant to an understanding of those topics, and it would be absurd to list every work influenced by Eliot in his article. Note that the other entries there are ''about'' his work, because they are intended to further a reader's understanding of the article topic. See MOS:FURTHER ↗ and MOS:SEEALSO ↗. Ligaturama (talk) 12:47, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

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Thank you for your review of Rising (Rainbow album) ↗. Do you have suggestions for Did you know entries based on this article? Lewismaster (talk) 16:08, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

:You're welcome! For a DYK hook I'd consider the drama between Ritchie Blackmore and the other band members during the tour; maybe something about how he publicly sacked Tony Carey, then realised he needed a keyboardist for the rest of the tour, then sacked him at the end of the tour, then got him back for the next album? (Then sacked him again, but that's not in the ''Rising'' article). Ligaturama (talk) 16:15, 23 June 2026 (UTC)