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Bob Marley

Rita writes in her book "Bob wouldn't take no for an answer. He said to me, 'No, you're my wife and you're supposed to.' So he forced himself on me, and I call that rape. Afterwards I felt so terrible. I screamed at him, 'I hate you, I hate you!'"

She later questioned if it was actually a rape as at that time many people thought, indeed it was the law, that a man could not rape his wife. I hope we are all enlightened enough now to know that what happened was rape Unibond (talk) 19:08, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

:Yes we definitely are, and at the same time, that is most definitely not the issue. Read on (in the quoted article). Apparently Rita didn't mean it that way and wandered the streets of London agonizing about the statement and begging his forgiveness. Unless at least 30 explanatory words are added in the main Wikipedia article, the simplistic statement cannot stand as is. In view of later events, primarily Rita remaining not only remaining in the I-Threes but also becoming the main torch bearer of the Marley legacy (for 33 years now), the simplistic statement appears to be aggressively PC-POV. She even purchased Federal Studios and turned them into Tuff Gong Studios because of the insult that Bob received from Federal Studios in his lifetime. Whatever happened, happened in their bedroom, no third party was aware of it in real time and it was never reported until Rita wrote the book in which she "call(ed) it rape" (so at the most one could write - "forced himself on her, which in later years she characterized as rape") and subsequently regretted what she wrote. Being enlightened also dictates that we don't jump on a sporadic, doubtful reference and place it simplistically and without reservation in the subject's main Wikipedia article. Monosig (talk) 11:19, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

::: OK, do you want to make the change or should I ? Unibond (talk) 18:39, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
::Monosig, I read that you deleted "In her autobiography 'No Woman, No Cry: My Life With Bob Marley', Rita claimed that Bob raped her on several occasions." That's a simple statement about the fact that she made her claim, nothing 'aggressively PC-POV'. I don't know if the 'doubtful reference' you're referring to is her very own book or the BBC, but your focus on whether or not she was raped detracts from the undeniability that she had claimed such. Could this be written with more nuance and reservation? Sure, I would have loved to see you provide this. I'm disappointed that, instead, you just decided to delete it. I hope you've grown to value women's voices more in the last decade. Malachite7 (talk) 01:04, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
:::@Malachite7 Rita said that she used the term as a euphemism, not as a factual claim, that in today's culture it got out of control and that she regretted ever using it. She even described walking a street in London alone being tortured by her use of the expression. There should be a 10 year old discussion on the subject on this page somewhere, this was done & dusted here a decade ago. The haughty quasi-educational virtue-signalling comment is superfluous seeing as you obviously do not know the facts. If I say 'the discovery fell on my head like a ton of bricks' and a later generation of writers believes that bricks are actual bricks and that it's unacceotable to say that they aren't, then a way has to be found to remove the infantalised euphemism. Monosig (talk) 08:07, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
::::I've seen nothing of Rita using 'rape' as a euphemism. What would that even mean? Isn't a euphemism a word that represents what is too taboo to talk about? Maybe you're thinking of some other figure of speech- if euphemism is what she really said, that'd only make me think she's accusing him of something even worse. Certainly, she seems to regret the accusation, and as Unibond said this seems tied to the once popular concept that a man can't rape his wife. Also, is it done and dusted? I thought you would've replied to Unibond in this thread if so. I'm not educating or signalling my virtues here- it's just you and me, and I don't think either of us expect you to learn from nor respect me. It was not superfluous, it was self-expressive. You bummed me out! I care about victims of sexual assault being shown respect, and when I saw you took the effort to hide the time she spoke up, but not to add the context you said would allow the 'simplistic statement' to remain, it upset me. What drives you to do one, but not the other? Clearly, not apathy, or you would've done neither. If you use a metaphor and future writers call it a euphemism for really being hit by bricks, the issue isn't that they must 'remove the infantilised euphemism'. It's that they need to recognize the meaning of the word "like" so as to properly recognize different figures of speech, and that the terms 'metaphor' and 'euphemism' do not mean what they think they mean; put along the lines of what you said, they must remove internal infantilization so they can come to terms with the words before them. Destroying your text would only set them back! Malachite7 (talk) 11:44, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

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The source does not say " believes that the ark never existed under the northern Kingdom of Israel, but that elevated platform was constructed as a shrine to the story of the ark which remained under southern Judahite control in the Temple at Jerusalem." That's a complete misrepresentation. Deletion of one paragraph of sourced text (because evidently you think it's wrong) deleted the actual source entirely. It's a pretty serious thing to misrepresent a source - or to add your own analysis to sourced text. <span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span> talk 11:32, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Yes I agree as a matter of principle, but let me just explain the issue. I know Finkelstein's work and opinions and the point that he's trying to make re Kiryat Yearim, which in his case often comes out backwards in "Hebrish", contradicting his meaning. Under the United Monarchy of Israel prior to King David's conquest of Jerusalem from the Jebusites, the Ark was in Kiryat Yearim https://goo.gl/maps/mLk3FhJpXdr1tBMi9 . After the conquest and the building of the First Temple by King Solomon, it was installed in the Temple in the Holy of Holies and became the focus point of the Israelite proto-Jewish religion. After the division of the kingdom into the northern kingdom (Israel with its capital at Shomron/Samaria) and the southern kingdom (Judah with its capital at Jerusalem), the 10 northern tribes comprising the Kingdom of Israel (Samaria) were thrown into a theological crisis. The centrality of Jerusalem came into question for political reasons, which bordered on heresy for some, particularly after the northern Omride dynasty built a "competing" temple at Shomron (the Sebastia site). According to the clearly Judahite author of the Bible, many North-Israelites even fell back into Baal-worshipping and paganism and virtually all the North-Israelite kings (such as Ahab) "did evil in the eyes of the Lord". The southernmost northern tribes such as Binyamin etc were particularly unhappy and some were loyal to Judah rather than Israel and continued to pilgrimage to Jerusalem. That is where Kiryat Yearim is (the southernmost tribes of the northern 10 tribes of Israel). Finkelstein's important point is that the Kiryat Yearim structure is a post-division North-Israelite one, not a United Monarchy one, so it has nothing to do with the fact that the Ark had been at Kiryat Yearim before it was moved to Jerusalem. It's a commemorative North-Israelite structure within the context of the northern 10 tribes "losing" Jerusalem and trying to deal with that for hundreds of years, until the destruction of the northern kingdom by the Assyrians, the disappearance of the 10 tribes or their morphing into Samaritanism while the Judahites/Jews were in exile in Babylon. This is a vitally important point because anyone seeing the structure and connecting it with the Bible story, would naturally say that this is where the Ark rested for many years - however, Finkelstein says, it didn't, because this took place centuries beforehand. All this time the Ark is sitting happily within the Temple in Jerusalem in the heart of the Kingdom of Judah, which is the narrative relevant to the continuation of the history of the Judahites=Judeans=Jews, until the destruction of the First Temple by the Babylonians well over a century after the destruction of Israel by the Assyrians. But the existence of the Ark in the Temple in Jerusalem is not what Finkelstein is discussing at all, he is discussing the Kiryat Yearim structure and disproving the natural gut reaction that this was the resting place of the Ark back in David's days. The text I deleted was a caricature of all the above and was totally out of context in the opening paragraph, because it refers to the Kiryat Yearim structure, not to an entirely unconnected question which is whether the Ark, ostensibly safely ensconced in the Temple in Jerusalem a century or two earlier, was actually a legend or not. One can certainly discuss that hypothetical-theoretical question too (I don't know who has ever raised it with regard to the First Temple), but the Kiryat Yearim structure has absolutely no bearing on it and the Finkelstein quote simply cannot be inserted where it was. Monosig (talk) 16:39, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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I see that you have gotten a Discretionary sanctions notices above. Those sanctions say (among other things) that editors must fulfil the 30/500 criteria in order to edit controversial topics in the I/P area. You do not fulfill those criteria, still you edit the Cave of the Patriarchs ↗-article. If you do that again, expect to see yourself reported to WP:AE ↗, Huldra (talk) 20:54, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

:What are you talking about? What "30/500 criteria", what "a Discretionary sanctions notices" (sic) and what's controversial about my edit which has absolutely nothing to do with the I/P area or the I/P dispute or any J/M dispute about holy places in I/P. My edit is obviously necessary, there's nothing controversial about it and has nothing to do with the site being in the I/P area. I suggest that you actually look at what I did before your little power urge overcame you, and then restore it. It's a dodgy reference with 2 sub-standard WWW links which actually don't belong in this article at all, but I left it in, in the main text (even if the references had been relevant and brilliant, they still had no textual place or context in the intro). It's immaterial if the site is in Palestine, Pakistan or Paraguay, it would be exactly the same and there's nothing "controversial" about the edit which has nothing to do with I/P as such. From looking at your talk page, the only thing that appears to be controversial is many of your edits. If you are here to sabotage other editors edits, then you might find *yourself* "reported to WP:AE". Please restore my edit. Monosig (talk) 21:34, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
::The "Discretionary sanctions notice" is what you got here: User_talk:Monosig#Discretionary_sanctions_notices ↗. It will be assumed that you have read it after it was delivered to your talk-page. 30/500 refers to an editor must be registered for at least 30 days, and have at least 500 edits. Huldra (talk) 22:13, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

:::So I've been an editor since 2006 (almost 16 years) and how many edits do I have? Where does the 30/500 rule appear? I can't find it in the labyrinth you sent me. Meanwhile, would you kindly restore my uncontroversial edit, we are both just wasting our time here. Is your presence here about enriching Wikipedia or are you a one-issue editor with a different agenda and a slight POV-rules obsession, as your talk page and numerous disputes with other editors seem to indicate. Monosig (talk) 22:33, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
::::Ah, mea culpa ↗, I thought you had less than 500 edits; I see now that I was wrong. So you did not violate Discretionary sanctions (see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel articles ↗): my apologies. I will not undo my edit though, that most historians think the story is mythological clearly belongs in the lead. I please don't personalise the disagreement, Huldra (talk) 00:11, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

:::::The reference is to Abraham etc in personam, not to the historical & Jewish-Muslim religious site. Therefore it appears to be over-POV of an uber-secular agenda. The fact is that "historians" haven't got a clue (there is no way that they could), and the actual links are of poor quality. "Most historians" is a unsubstantiated CNN-style POV neoligism, as you know, not worthy of Wikipedia. I recommend reading the Abraham ↗ article. His story is very detailed, the lifespans are obviously legend, the whole thing could be an invention or it could have a nucleus of truth about the biography of a Bedouin-type chieftain that came from Ur Casdim in Mesopotamia to Canaan and was remembered in real time and then embellished. The 400 silver shekel price is apparently supported by independent Uggarit sources and at the end of the day the tombs are there and have been since AD. As stated, the links are poor, even silly, they don't represent "most" of anything and they don't do credit to Wikipedia. Kindly revert. Sorry for the personal comments. Monosig (talk) 07:31, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
:::::: I believe that William G. Dever ↗ is a WP:RS ↗; if you don't agree with "Most historians"; can you metion which historian that disagree? Huldra (talk) 23:24, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

:::::::I see that Israel Finkelstein ↗ calls Dever "a jealous academic parasite" and "a biblical literalist disguised as a liberal" but I will certainly investigate further. Once again, this relevant in personam, not to the CotP. Monosig (talk) 00:26, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
::::::::Well, I somehow doubt that a "Biblical minimalist" as Israel Finkelstein ↗ will be among the historians who think differently. Again; please name your "some historians" which do not agree. In fact, that a person like Dever writes this, indicates that historians disagreeing with the "Abraham-Isaac-Jacob narrative to be primarily mythological" must be a rather fringe group. And since the importance of the Cave of the Patriarchs ↗ rests mainly on the Abraham-Isaac-Jacob narrative, it clearly belong in the lead, Huldra (talk) 22:01, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

:::::::::If you could get out of your Pavlovian rut for a second before replying, after thinking about it you would probably agree that no historian could possibly hold any opinion on the subject. It's an early pre-Levantine recorded history Biblical story and Abraham's goats and tents wouldn't have left archeological remains. It could be total fiction or could be partly true to the same extent. The comment in the context of the physical site is superfluous (normally served by "believed by Jews and Muslims to be..." etc within the main text), I didn't delete it, only moved it, and after this exhausting argumentative discussion has played out, I will move it again. Monosig (talk) 13:49, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

::::::::::* pre-Levantine-recorded-history Monosig (talk) 13:51, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
:::::::::::Huh? we just listed a historian who has an opinion about it? And please; WP:NPA ↗ Huldra (talk) 23:28, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

::::::::::::...which reflects more on that historian than on the matter under discussion. Do you have a personal opinion on my statement "no historian could possibly hold any opinion on the subject. It's an early pre-Levantine recorded history Biblical story and Abraham's goats and tents wouldn't have left archeological remains. It could be total fiction or could be partly true to the same extent"? Of course you don't have to continue this conversation if you don't want to! Lastly, the WP:NPA ↗ bar is apparently much lower than in the UK Parliament or in an Oxford debating society, my Wiki experience has been much more acidic, but I will do my best. Monosig (talk) 15:21, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
:::::::::::::.....LOl; I have seen some of the (more heated) debates in the UK Parliament; and I don't think such behaviour would be tolerated here. (Don't worry; I have a rather thick skin after 16+ years here. Just "tackle the ball, not the man" (or in this case: the woman)) As for what is under discussion; wp goes by what WP:RS ↗, -and the biblical history is not a RS for anything -except for what the Bible says. (Incidentally; they have been trying for 100-200 years to find proof of the Battle of Jericho ↗; none has been found. I believe present belief is that the Bible (or rather: the writers of it) just appropriated the history of the earlier Egyptian campaign as their own.) Making up a grand/heroic/ancient past is a rather common, it seems; see eg Privilegium Maius ↗ for the Habsburgs) cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:56, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

::::::::::::::The Bible (Old Testament) has entirely different periods spanning approximately 1,000 years. Certainly the mythological period - pre-1000-900 BC, approximately - is not a reference source and has little or no external verification, except in rare occasions such as the Ten Plagues & Santorini eruption or Merneptah Stele. But then, when the narrative continues after 1000-900 BC, it is increasingly supported by external and archeological evidence - Lachish, Sebastia, Khirbet Qeiyafa, First Temple Jerusalem, Assyrian bragging steles etc. The Egyptian pharaohs, the Philistines, Assyrians, Babylonians existed, they did what they did, and the Old Testament version of history - now devoid of miracles, conversations with God etc - dovetails with researched history and is a documentary source as reliable or unreliable as any other. The obsessive disqualification of the Old Testament's later, detailed historical narrative is primarily a result of the secular-religious divide - because of the Bible's significance for religions and the unpopularity of dogmatic Bible-based religiosity - and, since the mid-20th century, Middle East politics. Neither are relevant to the historical reliability or non-reliability of any specific, late-Biblical narrative. Abraham belongs entirely to the mythological period, of course, but because the basic narrative is largely reasonable, from Ur Casdim to Canaan and from there to Egypt (barring conversations with God, God telling him to sacrifice his son and the ridiculous biological life spans), one can take him or leave him.

::::::::::::::The New Testament is a completely different discussion altogether and I am not referring to that discussion here (although the discussion is fascinating). But I'm just pointing the fact out, because of the use of the "Bible" word which means different things to different people. For context, the NT is basically a faith-based biography of a single person spanning barely five years (one year at the beginning of his life and approx 4 years at its end) in a fully documented general-history period.

::::::::::::::Lastly, in my humble opinion the increasingly doctrinaire codification of Wikipedia dogma and obsessive rule-making is starting to resemble the Council of Nicaea. A vast body of legitimate, reliable information is being barred from the Wikipedia corpus because the work of occasional editors is barred by the Wikipedia orthodox-dictatorial hierarchy which has developed over the past decade and created a preposterously dogmatic and presumptious rules codex. Remember how all this started when we only had Britannica's professional editors, keep an open mind and prevent POV-opinionated active or blocking editing of all kinds! Monosig (talk) 07:37, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
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The problem is: Wikipedia demands WP:RS ↗. (Don't shoot me: I'm only the messenger!) And WP:RS here would be modern historians/archeologists etc. Did you find a modern source which disagree with William G. Dever ↗ on the issue? Huldra (talk) 23:25, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

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:@Tgeorgescu Really. What information was incorrect? As I recall, the article was incorrect and did not distinguish between Herod the Great and his son, the Galilean tetrarch mentioned in the New Testament. Monosig (talk) 05:15, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

::Jesus wasn't born in 1 BC, nor in 1 AD, nor in the phony year zero ↗. He was probably born circa 4 BCE. tgeorgescu (talk) 05:18, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
:::@Tgeorgescu In that case Jesus was born in the same year that Herod the Great died and the Herod mentioned during Jesus's adult lifetime was his son Herod Antipas, the tetrarch of Galilee. The fact is that geographical Judea was placed under direct Roman rule with a governor (Pontius Pilate). Monosig (talk) 05:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
::::The rub was {{tqred|primarily because he died four years prior to the birth of Jesus}}. tgeorgescu (talk) 05:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::What an overreaction then to what at the most needed a minor edit (which you could have done in 10 seconds). There doesn't seem to be any clear determination of when Jesus was born; the reasoned calculation here ↗ says 2 BCE, this ↗ article ranges from 6 BC to 1 AD and the various censuses and Herod the Great's death are all over the place. The point is that - contrary to popular belief - the New Testament "Herod" is Herod Antipas the tetrarch of Galilee, not Herod the Great, the Jewish-Idumean Roman-client king of all Israel/political Judaea, including geographic Judea, Idumea, the Galilee, Samaria, the maritime plain etc. So when Jesus was born, Herod the Great was either dead or died soon after. Monosig (talk) 17:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

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Please revert your disruptive edit to the 2026 Iran War infobox

There's an ongoing RfC on this topic, and an existing strong consensus for "Iranian victory". Further, Infobox results may only have the following: [Belligerent] victory, Inconclusive, or See Aftermath (linked to that section). Exceptions require strong local consensus per article. See MOS:MILRESULT ↗ for more information. <span style="color:#Da7301;font-size:small;">entropyandvodka</span> | <span style="color:#0D47A1;font-size:small;">talk</span> 03:11, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

:The only consensus I can assure you of, is that after a glorious quarter-century Wikipedia is committing suicide before our very eyes, an intellectual tragedy of global proportions. Meanwhile, do relish your "Iranian victory", but in the name of intellectual integrity, perhaps check out the situation within Iran first - and compare it to that of the nations that Iran attacked: successful and prosperous Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar & Oman. The main result of this war is that for those countries, by 2027 the Straits of Hormuz will have little or no strategic importance, Iran having fired the sole projectile that it had in its Hormuz cannon. Meanwhile unrest in Iran has renewed throughout the country, the drought is horrific and unsolvable, the regime now has no air force, navy or air defenses, its proxies are decimated & proxy populations exiled, its vaunted vast nuclear project permanently shattered - and its access to the billions being dangled by the US conditional upon its good behaviour. If that is an "Iranian victory" then the success of Wikipedia's sane competitors is more critically important than ever. Monosig (talk) 04:08, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

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:@Raihanur I don't mind how many WP: mass-codification rules I'm breaking in the following comment, because I'm writing it for you as a 21-year Wikipedian. I understand that you received your daily dopamine with the comment above, as a 1yr 10mnth newbie. Don't worry, the addiction passes - unless you are here on a POV mission of course, together with many others who have arrived here in recent years and are rapidly destroying this incredible creation. Back in the early 2000s we were making history, led by Jimmy Wales. Now you're just churning up a big, muddy, increasingly contaminated, chronically rulebound and hidebound pond. It's an addiction leading nowhere because you're no longer contributing to human knowledge, just wasting your own valuable time which could have been devoted to attaining knowledge for yourself. It's rather tragic, but it increasingly appears that salvation will have to be found somewhere else. It's also saddening in historic proportions that the collective extreme-POV motivations creating the determination that the 2026 conflict resulted in an "Iranian victory" will eventually make Wikipedia no more valuable as an information source than 𝕏. Monosig (talk) 10:46, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
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