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Ways to improve 1st Government under the restored Monarchy of Spain

Hi, I'm TonyBallioni. TheRichic, thanks for creating 1st Government under the restored Monarchy of Spain ↗!

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Ways to improve Consuelo Madrigal

Hi, I'm Mduvekot. TheRichic, thanks for creating Consuelo Madrigal ↗!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation ↗ tools, as having some issues to fix. The page is a translation of :es:Consuelo Madrigal ↗, which should be attributed properly. Please see Wikipedia:Copying_within_Wikipedia#Translating_from_other_language_Wikimedia_projects ↗ for instructions. I also noticed a couple of errors in the translation that I'm not going to attempt to fix, since I don't speak Spanish well enough to do so, although it seems obvious that" to occupe this position" should probably be "to occupy the position". Others are not so obvious. I have no idea what "she sworn her charge" means for example; does it mean to "take office"? Thanks,

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References for the articles you're creating

Hello! I just stumbled across several of the articles you've created on cabinets in Spain. Please, please go back through the aritcle you've created and add a reference to where you found the information you're writing here. I'm looking in particular at 1st Government under the restored Monarchy of Spain ↗, 2nd Government under the restored Monarchy of Spain ↗, and Third Suárez Cabinet ↗, but I'm guessing there are many more. If you need help formatting references just post here and I'm happy to help. Thanks in advance. Ajpolino (talk) 19:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Lionel Messi

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I doubt that musiqueenligne.com is reliable too. Also, the article has considerable commentary, essay-like language, and awkward grammar. My impression is that it may have been quickly translated from somewhere else. I held off on tagging it, hoping that the unreliable source would be enough for you to review it all much more carefully. --Ronz (talk) 20:20, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

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Copyright problem on EFE ↗

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:Diannaa, I'm sorry to tell you that you are wrong. The information has been obtained from RTVE web, it's a direct translation from it and from the Agencia EFE official website. Possibly, that website that you mentioned also translated the same information. The info has been translated from the Spanish wikipedia and the sources has been revised. TheRichic 12px ↗ ''<small>(Messages here)</small> 21:17, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

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:Thank you for your suggestions, {{Re|Cwmhiraeth}}, but the original author on the wikipedia in Spanish is me. I didn't know about the translation tag, thanks too.TheRichic 12px ↗ ''<small>(Messages here)</small> 12:40, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
::No harm done then! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:54, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

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Gonzalo Moliner ↗

Hello TheRichic, you reverted my edit ↗, why? See title Gonzalo Moliner ↗. Regards --Serols (talk) 09:18, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi, {{Re|Serols}}, the complete name is Gonzalo Moliner Tamborero. Gonzalo is his name and Moliner and Tamborero are his first (paternal) and second (maternal) surnames. TheRichic 12px ↗ ''<small>(Messages here)</small> 10:14, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

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Please note that Dalí is universally known as Salvador Dalí in English and the info box is correct. I reverted your recent edits to this page which amounts to a copyright notice. The article already has the notice and a link to the Dalí foundation. I moved it to the Legacy section where it more logically belongs. I am sure there were more interesting things in his will than his copyright.
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I wanted to inquire why you reverted all my edits for links on certain Spanish writers? I don't want to start a revert war so I figured I would reach out first. I don't see any cause to make the changes you did. The reason I edited the links in such a way was to give the reader historical context into when these writers were born. Having an unlinked "Spain" does not do the same thing. I will revert these articles back to my edit but I want to hear your reasoning first in case there is something I am missing. Reaching out in good faith. Thanks. Tpwissaa (talk) 11:34, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

:The information on the infobox is about the place where they were born, not about the historial period of a country. If you want to provide context, you can develop it in the article, not in the templates. You are free to reverse it, but I will do the same. If this is a topic that interests you a lot, I recommend you to open a topic in the village pump to discuss it and avoid editing wars. Greetings. TheRichic 12px ↗ ''<small>(Messages here)</small>'' 12:41, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you for your reply. Respectfully, your response does not make much sense to me. These men were born into historical eras where much of the time the state of their birth did not exist at the time of their death. The information I linked to was not superfluous. Infoboxes are supposed to be a quick guide for a person's biographical information. All I did was add links that highlighted the state they were born into or died in. Spain in 2024 is a different state than the one these men lived through. De-linking this information and just leaving "Spain" obscures the fact that the notion of what Spain is as a state has not been a consistent concept. If I were to reference someone born into the Ancien Regime in France who then died during the Second Republic and simply had "France" for both sets of information, this would be entirely misleading. Yes, it would be correct in the sense that both states were "France", however they were completely different systems with different conceptions of themselves. I am not trying to be condescending or combative, just explaining my reasoning. I will not get into an edit war, I just think you need to reevaluate your position. Tpwissaa (talk) 21:47, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
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Hi,
It seems as though we are going back down the road of you reverting my edits. We have been over this and I still do not accept your thinking with regards to this. However, I let it go with the links you previously did this to. It appears as though you are following my edits and reverting them. This is getting ridiculous. If you do not have a valid reason (such as incorrect information) there is absolutely no reason to continue. Please stop doing this. There is nothing more annoying than a wikipedia edit argument especially with someone stalking another person's edits.
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Buenas tardes Ricardo,

Primero de todo, como muestra mínima de educación, te pediría encarecidamente responder en la discusión de la página inglesa de Pedro Fernandes de Castro, por lo menos, antes de efectuar cualquier cambio.

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2) '''El uso de terceros idiomas'''. Esto es desde ridículo a nivel histórico y del buen uso de Wikipedia (la que recomienda usar los nombres "naturales") a abiertamente gallegofobo. Y siento hablar así de claro.
La página en cuestión se trata de la Wikipedia '''inglesa''', no la española, y, '''el personaje en cuestión, es gallego''', no español. Esté donde esté hoy Galicia, España no existía en el siglo XIV (y por favor, por rigor y seriedad, evitemos discursos chovinistas de que España existía desde los romanos, pues nada tiene que ver con la España castellana de hoy en día). En consecuencia, el idioma castellano o español, no pinta nada en el artículo fuera de los nombres propios y cargos que sean específicamente propios de este idioma (Fernando Díaz de Haro, por ejemplo).
Por ponerte una situación paralela, espero que concuerdes conmigo en que, Felipe II de Francia, no debe aparecer bajo ningún concepto en la Wikipedia inglesa como "Felipe II de Francia", si no como "Philip II of France" o "Philippe II".
La misma lógica aplica a los personajes de origen galaico-portugués en una página de Wikipedia inglesa. Negar esto es afirmar que esta lengua, sus hablantes y su memoria histórica son merecedores de menos respeto que los hablantes de francés, inglés o castellano.
Me gustaría hacerte notar aquí como, en tu última revisión, has decidido que si bien aceptabas el sobrenombre de "o da Guerra" en su forma nativa, has decidido colocarlo por detrás de su traducción al castellano (lengua que como vimos, no tiene sentido de ser en el artículo). Esto no para de hacerme pensar que, por alguna razón, consideras la lengua gallega(-portuguesa) como secundaria o menos valiosa y digna que la castellana. Me gustaría pedirte que te replanteases esta postura de ser el caso.

3) '''Coherencia nominal'''. La corrupción de nombres propios al castellano de personajes no castellanos '''en una página inglesa''' está llegando a tal punto de ridículo, que, '''ni siquiera es consistente'''. Si vamos a corromper unos nombres propios, hagámoslo con todos. Lo que no puede ser es que algunos de los hijos del personaje en cuestión aparezcan con una deturpación castellana, mientras que otros (Álvaro Pires o Inês de Castro) aparezcan en formas nativas si bien contemporáneas (en este caso siguiendo la normativa portuguesa, más próxima al galaico-portugués medieval en la escrita).

4) La '''problemática de la corrupción o deturpación de nombres propios en artículos históricos'''. Esta práctica, muy extendida en la academia española, y que bebe directamente de ideologías anexas al supremacismo castellano, supone, no solo un problema a nivel de convivencia y respeto a la dignidad de comunidades enteras, si no a nivel del estudio historiográfico. Como imagino que ya sabrás es práctica comúnmente aplicada sobre nombres gallegos y catalanes. La '''estructura nominal medieval''' genera una amplia cantidad de individuos con el mismo nombre, patronímico y, en muchos casos oficio u origen. Esto lleva a que si se traducen nombres a lenguas extranjeras a los individuos, como hace la academia española (y españolista) nos encontremos quizás, con tres "Juan Rodríguez Panadero", uno en Burgos en 1379, otro en Barcelona en 1245 y otro en Compostela en 1306, '''facilitando confusiones innecesarias'''. Otra de las consecuencias que esta mala praxis acarrea, es la de '''imposibilitar estudios más profundos'''. Por ejemplo en una obra llamada "Galicia en el comercio marítimo medieval" la autora traduce al castellano los nombres de navíos e individuos, imposibilitando averiguar el origen de los navíos o sus capitanes y armadores, el porcentaje de embarcaciones de uno u otro lugar en determinados puertos etc. (afectando en este ejemplo concreto incluso a lenguas más respetadas por el españolismo como lo es el inglés). Además de esta práctica invisibilizar grupos étnicos y comunidades culturales de reconocimiento internacional, efectivamente robando o '''borrando su historia'''.
Otro gran problema, cuando esta corrupción se aplica a '''nombres de lugares''', es la '''imposibilidad de encontrar el lugar en cuestión'''.
Más allá de tu nacionalismo evidente por la propia definición de tu perfil (y esto no pretendo que se lea como un insulto), no creo (o no quiero creer) que tengas mala fe al corromper los nombre propios gallegos, por lo que me gustaría invitarte a reflexionar sobre las consecuencias que esto trae para Galicia, su historia, cultura y gente, y, como esto puede ser visto e interpretado por los gallegos. Además de sí supone o no, una falta de respeto a esta comunidad humana. Simplemente imagina que se tradujesen al gallego o al francés los nombres de los reyes de Castilla en su página inglesa.

5) Sé que que Pardo Guevara, entre otros muchos historiadores españolistas, '''traducen los nombres propios'''. Como he explicado antes esto es una '''mala praxis''' del medievalismo español y es algo que deja su imagen internacional notablemente afeada. No creo que por que un puñado de historiadores que destaquen por su pobre metodología y rigor lo hagan, debamos replicar aquí el mismo error. De modo que, por favor, no utilices la traducción de nombres propios por estos historiadores como "fuente" de que el nombre debe escribirse en castellano, pues '''ni todos los historiadores los traducen''', de hecho la mayoría no lo hacen (Sotto Mayor, también citado en el artículo), ni la corrupción de Guevara es el nombre original de estos personajes (con lo que a efectos prácticos nos estaríamos '''inventando individuos que nunca existieron'''). Te animo a sumergirte en recursos como el ''Corpus Xelmirez'' o el ''Gallaecia Monumenta Historica'' para '''profundizar en la onomástica gallega medieval'''.

6) Si bien '''ciertos títulos''' podríamos escribirlos en castellano, como el de adelantado de la frontera (por ser exclusivos de la monarquía, aparecer en esta lengua en las fuentes y ser de territorios o reinos castellanos), otros, que aplican a territorio, ciudades y gestiones gallegas en las que la corona poco o casi nada tenía que ver, como el de pertigueiro mor (pertiguero mayor en castellano) de Santiago deben mantenerse pues en la lengua o bien del artículo (inglés) o bien del personaje que lo ostenta (galaico-portugués), o, de ser el caso, en su forma dominante en las fuentes primarias (de lo que no hay ningún estudio estudio por lo obvio de su conclusión, pero, atendiendo al origen e idioma de las fuentes, puedes hacerte una idea de la respuesta).

Puede que ignores este mensaje como decides ignorar la discusión de la página de Wikipedia en cuestión (lo que no me deja de transmitir por tu parte un cierto desdén moral), sinceramente espero que no sea así. En caso de serlo, solo hacerte notar que para los dos es muy fácil restaurar versiones anteriores de Wikipedia entrando en un bucle sin sentido y sin fin. Por lo que te apremio a que mantengas conmigo una discusión educada y '''honesta''' sobre el tópico.

Un caluroso saludo,
Miguel. Migdeub (talk) 18:21, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

:Buenas tardes @Migdeub. Entiendo tu punto de vista y preocupaciones, pero no estás añadiendo nada que demuestre tus afirmaciones. Si una institución existió o no, compete a los historiadores, no a nosotros. Por otra parte, puede ser que el nombre esté castellanizado, pero es el nombre que se ha utilizado en todas las lenguas de la Wikipedia (lo que facilita su búsqueda), incluida la portuguesa y gallega. Cambiarlo porque a ti no te guste, porque en algunos textos aparezca con su nombre en gallego/portugués u otro motivo, también puede ser un revisionismo histórico ↗ por tu parte. En cuanto a la traducción de nombres, yo tiendo a dejar los enlaces de la Wikipedia, es decir, puede ser que uno esté en gallego porque así se creo y otros en castellano porque el que la creo usó fuentes castellanas. También es probable que, como por aquel entonces formaba parte de la Corona castellana, muchas de las fuentes que han llegado a nuestros días estén en castellano, esto no es minimizar grupos étnicos ni nada parecido, no estamos nosotros aquí para salvar lenguas o pueblos, sino para contar historia. La historia de la persona está contada, si en su tiempo se llamaba Pedro o Pere, no es relevante para lo que hizo.
:Si eres historiador y sabes sobre el tema, podrás encontrar las fuentes adecuadas para cambiar aquellos aspectos que consideres erróneos, pero si un usuario ha creado un artículo a partir de una fuente, no puedes simplemente cambiarlo todo porque a ti no te guste o consideres que está equivocado. Si insistes en actuar así, seguirás provocando encontronazos con otros usuarios. TheRichic 12px ↗ ''<small>(Messages here)</small>'' 18:41, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
::Por cierto, he integrado tus preocupaciones cambiando algunos nombres, y tu insistes en hacer un revisionismo nominal de todos los personajes que hay en el artículo e imponer tu voluntad. Al final, volverá todo a su estado previo a que decidieras modificarlo todo y tus sugerencias se perderán del todo. Un saludo. TheRichic 12px ↗ ''<small>(Messages here)</small>'' 18:43, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
:::Vamos a ir por partes Ricardo. Y adelanto la importancia de una discusión '''honesta'''. Cosa que me parece, evitas.
:::1) "Si una institución existió o no, compete a los historiadores, no a nosotros." Sin entrar en debate sobre este argumento ni nuestras ocupaciones personales, ningún historiador habla del adelantamiento de la frontera de Galicia o Murcia. Si bien el adelantamiento de la frontera de Andalucía es un termino usado por conveniencia, pues muchos de sus territorios se encuentran en la moderna Andalucía, el nombre para esta institución es simplemente Adelantamiento de la Frontera.
:::Como habrás observado no hay ninguna cita en el artículo que respalde ningún adelantamiento de la frontera para Galicia. Así que como tu dices, no nos compete inventarnos instituciones. Como creo que podrás entender, por ponerte un ejemplo, el trabajo de un arqueólogo no consiste en buscar pruebas de que los alienígenas no construyeron las pirámides, consiste en investigar sobre la construcción de las pirámides. Lanzar afirmaciones evidentemente falsas (adelantamiento mayor de la frontera de Galicia), aunque sean veladas (que los gallegos no hablaban gallego - y por lo tanto sus nombres no eran gallegos, si no, curiosamente, castellanos) y pedir que sean tumbadas con evidencias es un ejercicio de desgaste y guerrilla dialéctica que sinceramente prefería evitar (no te va a conducir a ti a nada, ni a mí).
:::2) "porque en algunos textos aparezca con su nombre en gallego/portugués". Estos textos son todos los textos no castellanos y muchos textos castellanos. "Algunos" es un calificativo muy deshonesto aquí. Casi tanto como tildar de revisionismo histórico usar el nombre propio de un personaje en su propio idioma.
:::3) Dices que este cambio es "por que a mi me guste", asumo que no has leído el mensaje previo, donde se exponen razones de '''rigor histórico''', '''honestidad intelectual''', y '''respeto a la historia de una comunidad humana'''. Creo que estás reduciendo razones de mucho peso y significado en un espectro muy amplio, a un capricho personal.
:::4) "muchas de las fuentes que han llegado a nuestros días estén en castellano". Estaría bien que ciertas afirmaciones se realizasen con conocimiento de causa para evitar incurrir en falsedades, si bien entiendo por tu comentario que, no eres historiador y por lo tanto no cuentes con cierta base.
:::Las fuentes principales son la documentación notarial, en gallego-portugués, el "Livro das Linhagens" en gallego-portugués, las Crónicas de Fernão Lopes, en gallego-portugués. Ciertamente hay documentos en castellano que nos hablan de Pedro Fernandes, si bien estos son en comparativa la menor parte, ninguno, que yo conozca por lo menos, opera como fuente primaria en este contexto ni es contemporáneo del personaje, a diferencia de las fuentes galaico-portuguesas que han llegado a nuestros días (las ya mencionadas).
:::La corona castellana, como entiendo que sabrás, no era ni un estado nación, ni castellana. ¿Qué significa esto? La corona, un término contemporáneo que usamos por conveniencia es el conjunto de estados patrimoniales de un príncipe. Estos estados pueden ser de una diversa composición étnica e incluso legal, y sus cancillerías emitir documentación en una amplia variedad de lenguas (como hizo la Corona castellana). Nos referimos generalmente al conjunto de estados por tan solo uno de ellos, generalmente (no siempre) aquel en el que por lo general, descansaba la corona (es decir, el rey), que a veces tenía una cierta preminencia institucional, o aquel que tenía más antigüedad dentro de los dominios familiares del príncipe (el caso castellano). Que usemos solo el título de uno de estos estados (por conveniencia), no quiere decir que la documentación de la monarquía se emitiese en el idioma mayoritario o propio de este estado (como es el caso de la Corona de Aragón en el Reino de Aragón o la corona Galaico-Leonesa con el latín), ni que este tuviese una suerte de "idioma oficial".
:::5) "revisionismo nominal de todos los personajes que hay en el artículo e imponer tu voluntad". No, no es revisionismo nominal, '''es no inventarse personajes'''. Es decir, poner el nombre correspondiente a cada individuo.
:::Me gustaría además pedirte que no mintieses. Por lo menos no de una manera tan obvia. Afirmas que he modificado el nombre de todos los personajes en el artículo. Te invito a leerlo de nuevo. Podrás observar que no se han modificado los nombres traducidos al inglés, pues se trata de la página inglesa, como no se han traducido tampoco los nombres castellanos de personajes castellanos, pues como te he expresado, me preocupo en mi edición por el rigor histórico y el respeto a la historia de comunidades humanas sean o no la mía.
:::Velar por la memoria histórica y el rigor histórico en un artículo sobre historia para una enciclopedia pública con el calado de Wikipedia no es imponer mí voluntad, es conferir seriedad a dicha enciclopedia y mejorar un artículo con errores históricos de grano grueso.
:::6) Te pediría que, de requerir a los demás fuentes y citas, aplicases las mismas exigencias a tus "correcciones", pues no son solo errores discretos los que estás decidido a mantener, si no de gran calado, y todos ellos sin fuentes que los respalden (adelantamiento de la frontera de Galicia).
:::7) "esto no es minimizar grupos étnicos ni nada parecido, no estamos nosotros aquí para salvar lenguas o pueblos, sino para contar historia. La historia de la persona está contada, si en su tiempo se llamaba Pedro o Pere, no es relevante para lo que hizo." Creo que esto debería responderse por si mismo. Más allá del trato de desprecio que exhibe esta frase por una comunidad humana que te es ajena, su historia y sus personajes, pareces pretender coronarte con un halo de neutralidad.
:::Sí importa como se llamaba, Juan no es Pedro, Pedro no es Marco, Pere no es Pedro. Si esto es el respeto que tienes por la historiografía, probablemente no debieras estar editando artículos de historia. Por otra parte, ¿si no te importa como se llamaban, a que tanto emperrarte con que no puedan llevar su nombre en su lengua en un artículo internacional en inglés teniendo que castellanizarlos? Como pedí antes, por favor, evitemos la mentira. Te importa, o no estarías obcecado en castellanizar sus nombres sin fuentes que los respalden (la castellanización de Guevara no es ninguna fuente, es una doble mala praxis que se desmonta en los propios extractos documentales que incorpora a su trabajo. Una doble mala praxis por Guevara y por quien, al cogerlo de fuente, ha escogido la castellanización sobre los nombres presentes en los documentos asociados). Tampoco parecen valerte las formas en portugués moderno propuestas por Sotto Mayor, lo que no deja de ser escoger formas a tu conveniencia (y si realmente solo velas por la fosilización del artículo te recomiendo leer las fuentes citadas en el). '''Quien''' y lo que hizo tiene muchas dimensiones de importancia y ninguna merece ser desechada. La identidad de los personajes históricos es una parte muy relevante de su historia. Y merece ser contada.
:::8) Por rigor histórico y discusión honesta no pasa por aplicar el Efecto Bandwagon, sesgos de status quo o falacias argumentum ad antiquitatem. Y siento usar palabros pero es la única manera de definir lo estás haciendo. Por que algo se haya hecho mal y dañinamente hasta ahora, no es justificación para perpetuar un error.
:::7) Sintiéndolo mucho, no puedo dejar de leer tu último comentario como una amenaza. Me parece en extremo desagradable, que, después de proponer un debate honesto que inicialmente me pareció, ignoraste, tu respuesta ahora contenga mentiras (pto.5) , falacias (pto.8) y, para más inri, una amenaza.
:::Sí, soy historiador, y que el artículo usa las fuentes que cita, es definitorio de que '''alguien en la cadena de creación del artículo, no ha leído las fuentes que menciona'''. Recientemente has castellanizado los nombres gallego-portugueses en la forma presentada por Sotto Mayor en las páginas de su libro (no me acuerdo ahora del título) citado en el artículo. Todo, absolutamente todo, en la última versión propuesta que has decidido castellanizar nuevamente estaba referenciado siguiendo la propia bibliografía del artículo (¿y me pregunto, por que dices que no esté usando una fuente, lo que sabrías falso de haber leído la bibliografía, pero no lo dices de los nombres castellanizados? ¿A que este doble rasero?).
:::Me gustaría pese a lo que percibo de deshonesto en tu interacción (pto. 7), dar una oportunidad al sentido común, para que esto deje de ser el artículo con importantes agujeros que es tras tu revisión.
:::Los '''arreglos que propongo''', que creo que se fundamentan en el '''respeto y rigor''' son:
:::A) Los títulos de Adelantamiento serán correctamente referidos (no como hasta ahora para lo que además no constan de cita bibliográfica). El Adelantamiento de la Frontera podrá contener un hipervínculo a Andalucía por la evidente conexión histórica. Los títulos de adelantamiento de Murcia y la Frontera se escribirán en castellano, el de Galicia, en gallego. El titulo de ''pertigueiro'' de la ciudad de Santiago se escribirá en el idioma de la ciudad de Santiago, quien lo ostenta y el del personaje de este artículo (forma normalizada del gallego-portugués). Para estos dos últimos habilitaré una cita a un fondo documental de la USC que está esta semana en mantenimiento (así que tardará) si así te pareciese más razonable.
:::B) Los títulos de la corte castellana irán en ambos idiomas (en el del monarca y en el de quien lo ostente). Aquí estoy abierto a modificar la propuesta, pero deberíamos dejar claro para el lector internacional que es qué.
:::C) Los nombres personales se escribirán en una forma normalizada del idioma de los susodichos individuos, a excepción de aquellos en inglés. Así los personajes castellanos tendrán su nombre castellano, y los gallego-portugueses la '''forma referida en el artículo de Sotto Mayor de la bibliografía''' (sea cual sea el idioma recogido en el hipervínculo a sus respectivas páginas de Wikipedia - no vamos a perpetrar un error o mala praxis si no a mejorar el artículo).
:::D) Como comprenderás, no voy a justificar con bibliografía que los individuos galaico-portugueses tenían nombres galaico-portugueses, como no le estás tu pidiendo a nadie que justifique que los individuos castellanos tenían nombres castellanos (no veo ninguna referencia por ningún lado a que el de Haro tuviese un nombre castellano, en cambio si la veo a que dona Joana se llamaba dona Joana en dos fuentes citadas en el artículo). Supongo que entiendes lo ridículo de semejante exigencia y que, en pro de un artículo riguroso, debe usarse la misma vara de medir en todos caso.
:::PD.: Te pediría que no confundieses "imponer la voluntad" con velar por el rigor de un artículo '''en consonancia con las fuentes citadas'''. Y abstengámonos de amenazas, si no te importa. Migdeub (talk) 21:50, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

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Police Service Decoration ↗ moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Police Service Decoration ↗. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing as a live article at this time because '''it needs more sources to establish notability''' and '''sources originating in the Spanish state are considered primary and cnnot be used to establish notability'''.
I have converted it to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page ↗.
When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit the draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Boynamedsue (talk) 06:48, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi TheRichic. Thank you for your work on List of health ministers of Spain ↗. Another editor, Orange sticker, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol ↗ and left the following comment:

{{Bq|1=Hi there, this looks like a great article but I think there's some errors been created in translation, I've spotted a few sentences that end with a dash. Can you give this a good copyread?}}

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Orange sticker (talk) 14:33, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

:{{Re|Orange sticker}}, thank you for the advice. I always use dashes (—), but maybe I use them incorrectly or overuse them. Do you mean that I shouldn't use them before the end of a sentence (before a period/full stop)? Thanks. TheRichic 12px ↗ ''<small>(Messages here)</small>'' 15:58, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, it doesn't make sense in English grammar. Orange sticker (talk) 16:07, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
:::Understood. Thank you very much!! TheRichic 12px ↗ ''<small>(Messages here)</small>'' 16:11, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi TheRichic. Thank you for your work on List of ambassadors of Spain to Canada ↗. Another editor, Lynch44, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol ↗ and left the following comment:

{{Bq|1=Thank you for creating the article!}}

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<span style="color: blue">Lynch</span><span style="color:#FFD700">44</span> 10:16, 2 May 2026 (UTC)

I need help here

Yesterday, I submitted an edit request on the talk page here ↗ concerning the article Spain ↗. As can be seen, the request was accepted and the edit was implemented.

However, the user Inherli has since reverted the change, which gives the impression that he is treating the content as if it were subject to his ownership ↗. Could you please help ensure that my approved edit request is respected?

Thank you. Best regards. ~2026-30725-74 ↗ (talk) 20:10, 22 May 2026 (UTC)