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Hi Lucas,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture :File:Kelvin-Helmholtz Instability.ogv ↗ is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day ↗ on March 26, 2012. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2012-03-26 ↗. —'''howcheng''' {chat} 19:57, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
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SD None

Hi LucasBrown. Thank you for your multiple edits to short descriptions, but I wonder if I may make a suggestion? As many people seeing <nowiki>{{Short description|none}}</nowiki> do not understand it, they try to be "helpful" by entering precisely the sort of description you are going around deleting. I have found that adding some hidden text, e.g. <nowiki></nowiki> immediately after the <nowiki>{{Short description|none}}</nowiki> reduces (I won't say stops) the number of overwrites. Just a suggestion - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 09:48, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

: I'm afraid I see "none" as amazingly unhelpful, as it assumes that titles are "obvious".

: The trouble with "obviousness" is that it is culturally dependent, i.e. what's "obvious" to you is far from obvious to Ahmed, Betty, Carolus from Poland, and Zak from Guyana. I suggest that the value of a "Short description" is that it hints at the '''area''' in which the article belongs, thus saving people time when it pops up and indicates to them that they are, or are not, in the right area, so they may navigate accordingly.

: I suggest, therefore, that a Short description of "Culinary tradition" is a great deal more helpful to folks from all over – who may well have no idea what the borrowed French word "cuisine" actually means (are we talking ''haute gastronomie'' or what?) – than the explicitly unhelpful "none" or whatever random default text that may possibly bring. Accordingly I'm going to modify a whole batch of your edits to this effect, and I hope you'll be more thoughtful in future when deleting useful data from Wikipedia. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
::What does being borrowed from French have to do with recognition of a common word that's been part of English since at least the 18th century? And if they don't know the French-derived term "cuisine", why (whether from Canada or Poland or Ghana) will they know the Latin-derived term, introduced into English a century later, "culinary"? Anyway the SD isn't meant to give dictionary definitions for the individual words in the title. Largoplazo (talk) 13:39, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
::{{re|Chiswick Chap}} I've reverted a couple of your changes where, in one case, your edit summary reads "a brief SD has value". Please don't undo what others are doing specifically in compliance with the guideline. WP:SDNONE ↗ basically says that titles like this are self-descriptive and that, in such cases, to put "None". If you disagree, you ought to take it up at Wikipedia talk:Short description ↗. Largoplazo (talk) 16:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Thanks, but none of the cuisine titles are necessarily self-descriptive, specially if people aren't quite sure what cuisine means, for instance, so it is useful to be able to learn that an article is about a cooking tradition. This "it's in xyz category" is the job of the SD. If it were true that titles could be obvious then the SD would be redundant..... along with Encyclopedias for that matter. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:50, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Again, if you disagree with the guideline, then take it up at the project page, especially since you've got three people here disagreeing with you. This isn't Simple English Wikipedia, and some of your edits belie what you're saying here. At West African cuisine ↗, for example, you added "Overview of the cuisine of West Africa". Every single article on Wikipedia is an overview of its topic, so "overview of" is no help at all, and I fail to see how "cuisine of West Africa" is clearer than "West African cuisine". And you haven't addressed how "culinary traditions" is clearer than "cuisine". And what about readers who don't know what West Africa is? If worse comes to worst and a reader doesn't know a term that's part of a descriptive title, they can look it up. Re your penultimate sentence, the titles of these articles already ''are'' in the form of "this is in the xyz category", that's the point. Largoplazo (talk) 18:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

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arctangent series for π

Hi LucasBrown. I mostly reverted your change to Leibniz formula for π‎‎ ↗ which I think makes the relevant section significantly more obscure, indirect, jargony, and unfriendly to newcomers. It's likely possible to expand this section a bit if you want to go into more detail, but can you try to keep it moderately accessible to as much of the plausible audience (which might include people whose knowledge is at about the introductory calculus level) as possible? –jacobolus ↗ (t) ↗ 08:09, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

MOS:IT ↗ edits

Hi Lucas,

I noted these edits ↗, and while I agree italics are better than bold here, I don't understand why you used a pipe. I see no justification for that at all. --Trovatore (talk) 19:33, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

:@Trovatore I made these edits using the visual editor; I do not know why it put the pipe in. — — LucasBrown 19:41, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
::Ah, I can believe that. Honestly I think you'll be happier if you use the source editor. The complexity people complain about, honestly, rarely comes up; you just need to learn a few simple constructs and then everyday stuff is straightforward. --Trovatore (talk) 20:14, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
:::@Trovatore I have been editing for over 16 years. While I agree that the source editor is better for some things, for quick edits like this, I find the visual editor to be much easier. — LucasBrown 20:22, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Country name

Hi LucasBrown, I notice your edits to the short descriptions for Vella Lavella ↗ and Makira ↗ to refer to 'the Solomon Islands'. This series of articles are on the islands of the country of Solomon Islands ↗, not the islands of the Solomon Islands (archipelago) ↗, which do not cover quite the same geographic area. The main article, Solomon Islands ↗, deals with the actual country name, which has been without the 'the' since it ceased to be a colony. I have not reverted these, but you may consider it. Ex nihil (talk ↗) 15:49, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

:Thank you for pointing that out; I have now gone through Template:Islands of the Solomon Islands ↗ and edited accordingly. — LucasBrown 17:10, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Please use m mark for minor edits appropriately

A good edit producing more readable English on Akahoya eruption ↗ but the net of contributions and deletions was -26 characters which is substantial by Wikipedia convention and triggered an unnecessary careful review of your contribution. ChaseKiwi (talk) 19:38, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

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Short descriptions

# It's critically important whether a genetic code is mitochondrial or nuclear. (I'll fix these, but its probably wise to be extra careful around technical subjects.)
# We don't say "USA" we say "US". I'm not sure it's necessary to add the country in many cases, but please avoid USA in almost all short descriptions.

All the best: ''Rich Farmbrough'' 17:01, 24 July 2025 (UTC).

Have also reverted a few which changed the name of a city (Washington, D.C. ↗) and have added this as an addition to the short summary essay which was being pointed to, thanks for the inspiration to add that. Maybe you can go back and catch the ones not on my watchlist. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:34, 2 August 2025 (UTC)

:I have to disagree with you here. MOS:STATEABBR ↗ states "Either 'Washington, DC', or 'Washington, D.C.', may be used in tables whether or not other state postal codes appear (but the comma is required in either case); 'Washington, DC' is more consistent with our other treatment of acronyms." More authoritatively, https://dc.gov ↗ seems to use the no-periods version almost exclusively. — LucasBrown 13:50, 2 August 2025 (UTC)

::Those are for tables, whatever that means. Wikpedia's article is Washington, D.C. ↗, the use of DC is not an official or alternate name for Washington, D.C. (the DC gov name is for a local website while the actual D.C. is a federal area). You can start a Requested move for the change but this would likely have no or little chance. Best to keep the name of the city as the actual name throughout Wikipedia as much as possible. Thanks for the discussion though, I haven't been back to D.C. in quite a few years and nice to remember. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:59, 2 August 2025 (UTC)

Summaries appreciation

Hi Lucas! I noticed that you've been summaries more often ↗ than in the past. Just wanted to drop by to say that this is appreciated by your fellow editors! Sdkb '''talk''' 02:11, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

SDCONTENT errors

Your list User:LucasBrown/SDCONTENT errors is really useful, and I've spent some time tackling a few of the articles that appear in it. Thanks! Would you be able to add "F.C." (Football Club) to the exceptions, please? MichaelMaggs (talk) 09:54, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

:No: The short descriptions that end with " F.C." generally violate WP:SDDUPLICATE ↗. The table at WP:SDEXAMPLES ↗ lists "North American basketball league season" as the suggested short description for 2022–2023 NBA season ↗; following that example, I intend to edit the " F.C." short descriptions to something like "English football club season". Nevertheless, I am glad that someone other than me finds it useful. — LucasBrown 10:48, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
::OK, that makes sense. I agree. MichaelMaggs (talk) 11:42, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

Short description of football season

Hi, I want to ask you, what is the reason you change short description of football team season (e.g. 2024–25 Bali United F.C. season ↗) to "Indonesian football club season"? I also noticed you change other countries football team's season. Can you give me a specific reason for that? Wira rhea (talk) 01:33, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

:My reasoning for those edits comes from the page Wikipedia:Short description ↗. The most relevant quotes from that page are:
:* The first sentence states that a short description is meant to "complement and clarify the page title, particularly in contexts where this is seen in isolation from the page itself".
:* At the tag WP:SDDUPLICATE ↗, the page says that a short description should "avoid duplicating information that is already in the title (but don't worry too much if you need to repeat a word of two for context)".
:For the specific case of the page that you mentioned, the short description that I replaced was "10th season of Bali United F.C.". This explains nothing about what Bali United F.C. is. People familiar with soccer/football have a decent chance of guessing that "F.C." stands for "Football Club", but a significant fraction of the English Wikipedia's audience (especially Americans, who mostly do not care about the sport) will have no idea what that article is about without actually opening it. "Indonesian football club season" provides much more clarity. — LucasBrown 01:45, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
::Will it not become a general Indonesian football club season without mentioning the specific club and what season it is? Just curious. Wira rhea (talk) 01:52, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
:::"Indonesian football season" would be about a specific season of football across Indonesia, but including the word "club" in the description, making it "Indonesian football ''club'' season", implies that it is about a specific club. — LucasBrown 02:00, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

Generativity (technology)

I have split the article Generativity ↗ into two parts, putting information on the technological meaning of the word into Generativity (technology) ↗. This addresses a problem that has previously been discussed on the relevant talk page ↗. You made a small edit to the new page (thanks), so I assume you think it's not a completely inappropriate solution. An administrator has nominated Generativity (technology) ↗ for speedy deletion. I'm not sure how much attention they were paying to what I was trying to do. I've replied to their message on my talk page and contested the deletion. If you have time, maybe you can intervene as well.

I'm not sure the technological meaning of generativity is noteworthy. My motivation is just to clean up the conflation of the two unrelated meanings of the term, which was an accepted and obvious problem with the existing page.
--Theoh (talk) 09:57, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

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Stone Age Poland

Hello. I brought back the non-hyphenated Stone Age Poland ↗ article per the styling of Wikipedia's Stone Age ↗ articles. Probably have to get consensus to change the title of the main article before changing the orbiting pages, But this n-gram ↗ shows that might be an uphill climb. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:11, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Australian Tropical Rainforest Plants ↗

This article is about a published work, therefore it should be in title case per MOS:TITLE ↗. Please revert the page move you have just made. Cheers 🌳 Junglenut · Talk 07:46, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

:Thank you for catching that; 'tis fixed. — '''LucasBrown''' 08:19, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Christopher Marlowe in fiction ↗

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:The rules at WP:SDFORMAT ↗ forbid ending a short description with a period in most cases; "Fictional depictions of Christopher Marlowe, 16th-century English dramatist." is not such a case, so the description needed at least that much editing.
:WP:SD40 ↗ starts discouraging short descriptions on the basis of length at the 40-character mark. That string is 76 characters, nearly twice the recommendation. The least important part of the string is the ", 16th-century English dramatist" part. Removing this leaves "Fictional depictions of Christopher Marlowe". This is 43 characters, which is slightly longer than ideal, but not long enough to be a problem.
:At this point, the title and short description are basically duplicates of each other; WP:SDDUPLICATE ↗ discourages this. It seems that WP:SDNONE ↗ applies: a short description should be "none" if the title is sufficiently self-explanatory. The title "Christopher Marlowe in fiction" seems to me like it is such a title, so I edited the short description accordingly. — '''LucasBrown''' 17:09, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

SD errors

"USA" shouldn't be used to abbreviate the country - see MOS:USA ↗. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:27, 19 September 2025 (UTC)
:Also, unlike films, stage works should be identified by creators, not by year. The year is ambiguous: Year of composition? of publication? of premiere? of first major production? of most famous production? Also, Edwardian musical comedy ↗ is a genre useful for identification in SDs. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:01, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

I don't understand this

Could you explain why you reverted this edit ↗? The Nemean lion ↗ is a mythological creature whose skin had supernatural properties, and its mythic nature distinguishes it from a real-life lion species. Compare Aslan ↗, who is described as a fictional lion. It strikes me as crucial information even in the short description to note that the topic is not zoological but rather mythological. Further, the phrase "one of the lions" is misleading — there's another but far more obscure lion killed by H. whose identity is rather nebulous, but "one of the lions" would seem to imply that he went around killing lions on multiple occasions. The killing of this lion by Heracles is one of the standard Twelve Labors (in any reckoning that specifies twelve), and the wearing of its skin is one of the iconographical elements by which Heracles/Hercules is recognized in art. Its mythic-ness is arguably more important than its lion-ness — it could've been a bear, some other wild, strong animal, or a completely fantastical creature, and still have played this role in the mythology of Heracles. The article is rather underdeveloped and poorly written (the first paragraph has redundancies and grammatical errors), and while I considered taking a day to clean it up, to be frank I don't want to waste my time if every small edit will be a battle. Cynwolfe (talk) 06:07, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

:As my edit summary indicated, I undid your edit because it broke the rules at WP:SDCONTENT ↗. In particular, a short description should "avoid starting with an article (A, An, The) except when required for correct grammar and meaning". You will also note that reversion was immediately followed by an edit by me ↗ to have it read "Mythical lion killed by Hercules", which satisfies both the WP:SDCONTENT ↗ rules and your concerns. — '''LucasBrown''' 08:19, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
::Thank you for your reply. It could be argued that the indefinite article is needed because of the "see also", which is why "one of the lions" was there originally, albeit misleading in its amplitude. But my point would be that you didn't need to revert, as if my edit was untoward and unwanted. You simply could've ''edited'' by deleting the article, which would've been more courteous. I've been on WP for 17 years and have grown weary of the wars, which is why I spend more time at Commons these days, but reverting when a mere edit is called for seems, forgive me for saying so, quite rude. Cynwolfe (talk) 15:39, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Bokmål Short Description

Hey, I saw that you edited the Bokmål ↗ page. An identical edit with an identical reasoning was made by editor Entranced98 on 14. of January, he promptly self-reverted when i explained why the indefinite article was necessary and didn't break Wikipedia:Short description ↗ rules. I'm not going to reiterate it, you can just read the discussion yourself: User talk:Entranced98#c-Herman Mortensen-20260114144900-Article in the short description<nowiki>. Best ~~~</nowiki> Herman Mortensen (talk) 13:17, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

:At WP:SDEXAMPLES ↗, we find the following guidance:
:::A good way to draft a short description is to consider the words that would naturally follow if you started a sentence like this:
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:::{{quote article content|'''[Article subject]''' is/was a/an/the …}}
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:::You can then use those additional words as the short description. So for example if you wanted to write a short description for Stève Nzigamasabo ↗, your sentence would be "Stève Nzigamasabo is a ''Burundian footballer''", and ''Burundian footballer'' becomes your short description.
:Notably, the lack of ''A'' at the start of the short description does not imply that the article's subject is the only entity that matches the short description.
:Applying that principle to Bokmål, we have "Bokmål is a written standard for Norwegian language," so "Written standard for Norwegian language" becomes the short description.
:There are cases where an initial ''A'' is needed. For example, Loi ↗ has the description "A people of Manipur, India". With the ''A'', the phrase indicates an ethnic group in the area; without the ''A'', the meaning changes to "everyone in/from Manipur". However, "Written standard for Norwegian language" does not change meanings when an ''A'' is prepended, so the ''A'' should be omitted. — '''LucasBrown''' 13:56, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
::I don't see how your Loi case isn't analogous. I don't think you cold disagree that most people who read "Written standard of Norwegian language" would'nt assume you're talking about every/the (only) written standard for Norwegian language. Arguably the article is more necessary then for ethnic groups because the general reader may not be aware that you can have two co-official written standard for the same language. ' Herman Mortensen (talk) 14:22, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

SDs on Electoral history of… pages

Please explain your mass reversion of SDs on these pages to blank SDs as WP:SDNONE ↗ does not apply to any of these pages, due to none of the politician or political party names being {{tq|sufficiently self-explanatory}}, and the purposes ↗ not being met: it is useful to indicate the general field of the primary subjects to serve as a disambiguation in searches. HKLionel TALK 10:52, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

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MOS:NOTUSA ↗

I know this was a while ago now, but regarding this edit ↗, changing US to USA is not appropriate per MOS:NOTUSA ↗.. AusLondonder (talk) 06:29, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

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Thanks for copyediting multiple times

Thanks for your copyediting multiple times, as well as @Antonissimo in many polyhedral articles I have expanded so far. I still have overlooked the writing after I immediately submitted the edit. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 13:34, 22 June 2026 (UTC)