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:Sorry just doing this so I can make a page since it requires 10 edits I think. Grffffff (talk) 18:01, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
:How can I add one on phone? Grffffff (talk) 18:13, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: 2025 Philadelphia Plane Crash ↗ (February 1)


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Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: National Cargo Flight 470 ↗ (February 2)


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Speedy deletion ↗ nomination of :2025 Bering Air Cessna 208B ↗


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A tag has been placed on :2025 Bering Air Cessna 208B ↗ requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

<blockquote>Too short. Requesting move to draft space or deletion.</blockquote>

Under the criteria for speedy deletion ↗, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.

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Speedy deletion ↗ nomination of :2025 Bering Air Cessna 206B disappearance ↗


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A tag has been placed on :2025 Bering Air Cessna 206B disappearance ↗, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion ↗, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may '''contest the nomination''' by visiting the page ↗ and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines ↗. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the {{Querylink|Special:Log|qs=type=delete&page=2025+Bering+Air+Cessna+206B+disappearance|deleting administrator}}, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here ↗. <b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">Stumblean!</b> <sup>'''Talk ☏'''</sup> (he/they) 04:38, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

2025 Bering Air Cessna 208B ↗ moved to draftspace



Thanks for your contributions to 2025 Bering Air Cessna 208B ↗. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because '''it has no sources''' and '''page needs to be correctly formatted before publishing'''.
I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page ↗.
When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit for review" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. <small><b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b></small> <sup><b style="color:purple">''talk!''</b></sup> 04:50, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

:Doing it right now. Grffffff (talk) 04:58, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
::I’ve fixed some stuff. Grffffff (talk) 04:58, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
:::Can’t change the title thought. Want to change it to 208 Grffffff (talk) 05:02, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of :2025 Scottsdale Airport collision ↗ for deletion


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The article will be discussed at '''Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Scottsdale Airport collision ↗''' until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.<!-- Template:Afd notice --></div> RobertOwens01 (talk) 22:08, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Advice



Hello Grffffff!

As you may know, I was assigned as your mentor, and you have asked me a few questions before. I would just like to provide some advice based on your contributions.

First, it appears that you may be struggling with citing sources to external websites. A basic way of citing an URL is by inserting it inside reference tags. However, it is preferred that you insert more information about the source on the tags, like the title and author(s). You can check Help:Introduction to referencing with VisualEditor/2 ↗ for guidance, since you appear to use the VisualEditor ↗. In order to insert a list of references used on the article, at the end of the page you are creating, you should change the "Paragraph" tab at the top to the big "Heading" text, write "References", press enter, click on "Insert" at the top, then "More", then "References list".

Also, there are many types of infoboxes, like for aircraft occurrences ↗. You can insert one on the VisualEditor by pressing "Insert", then "Template", then type "Infobox aircraft occurrence", then select the top result. There, insert the relevant information and image file names, and press "Insert" when you're done. The infobox can be inserted after you write the article, but place it before the first sentence. If this is a lot to process, you can experiment these features on your personal sandbox here ↗. Alternatively, you can edit the Wikipedia sandbox here ↗, but this page is frequently edited by others.

Lastly, I notice that you frequently create new articles about recent aircraft occurrences and cite breaking news coverage. I very much appreciate the enthusiasm to improve and add content to this encyclopedia. However, it is important to note that Wikipedia is not a newspaper ↗, and while news articles can be valuable sources of information, it is better to wait just a bit and see if the significance of the event is clearer before writing an article about it. See Wikipedia:Notability (events)#Don't rush to create articles ↗. Instead of creating articles, you can expand other articles to add that information. For example, you could have added information on the 2025 Scottsdale Airport collision ↗ on the article about Scottsdale Airport ↗ on a new subsection about the collision (this has already been done). The article you created was just two sentences long, so it would easily fit on the article about the airport - but if much more information eventually comes in, it could be viable for an article.

From my experience, these types of very short articles with dubious significance are often blanked and redirected ↗ to some other article, moved to a draft and left to rot ↗, or nominated for deletion ↗ by other editors.

So my overall advice is to understand the essential parts of articles, like referencing and templates, to improve other articles. Until you understand how to appropriately edit them, and how the guideline on event notability ↗ works, you should probably not be rushing to create very short articles on recent events with breaking news coverage, and instead add to other existing articles that need updates. Nonetheless, I thank you for your efforts to improve the encyclopedia. Once again, if you need any more help, feel free to ask!

ObserveOwl&nbsp;(talk) 10:45, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

Speedy deletion ↗ nomination of :Desaer ↗


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A tag has been placed on :Desaer ↗ requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion ↗, because the article appears to be about a company, corporation or organization that does not credibly indicate ↗ how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion ↗, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable ↗.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may '''contest the nomination''' by visiting the page ↗ and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines ↗. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the {{Querylink|Special:Log|qs=type=delete&page=Desaer|deleting administrator}}. <!-- Template:Db-notability-notice --><!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> <small><b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b></small> <sup><b style="color:purple">''talk!''</b></sup> 20:58, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

Eastern Air Lines Flight 156 ↗ moved to draftspace



Thanks for your contributions to Eastern Air Lines Flight 156 ↗. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because '''it needs more sources to establish notability''' and '''more content written in a structured way'''.
I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page ↗.
When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit for review" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 14:53, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

2011 Kyrgyzstan Tupolev Tu-134A-3 crash ↗ moved to draftspace



Thanks for your contributions to 2011 Kyrgyzstan Tupolev Tu-134A-3 crash ↗. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because '''it needs more sources to establish notability'''.
I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page ↗.
When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit for review" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 09:50, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

1977 Praha-Ruzyne Airport collision ↗ moved to draftspace



Thanks for your contributions to 1977 Praha-Ruzyne Airport collision ↗. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because '''it needs more sources to establish notability'''.
I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page ↗.
When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit for review" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 09:52, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

Aeroflot Flight 512 ↗ moved to draftspace



Thanks for your contributions to Aeroflot Flight 512 ↗. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because '''it needs more sources to establish notability'''.
I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page ↗.
When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit for review" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 09:52, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of :FedEx Express Flight 3609 ↗ for deletion


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The article will be discussed at '''Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FedEx Express Flight 3609 ↗''' until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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:Bruh Grffffff (talk) 14:43, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Rada Airlines ↗ moved to draftspace



Thanks for your contributions to Rada Airlines ↗. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because '''it needs more sources to establish notability'''.
I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page ↗.
When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit for review" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:20, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Speedy deletion ↗ nomination of :2026 in aviation ↗


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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on :2026 in aviation ↗ requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion ↗, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help ↗ or reference ↗ desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub ↗ for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable ↗ subjects and should provide references to reliable sources ↗ that verify ↗ their content.

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Nomination of :2025 Trident Aviation DHC-5 crash ↗ for deletion


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The article will be discussed at '''Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Trident Aviation DHC-5 crash ↗''' until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.<!-- Template:Afd notice --></div> Lolzer3k 20:25, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

:this article should not be delated. it isnt frequent something like this happens to this size of a plane. it has a lot of information and sources. Grffffff (talk) 21:08, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
::deleted* Grffffff (talk) 21:08, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
::You have to argue your case in discussion not here. Lucthedog2 (talk) 16:54, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
::@Lolzer3000 this person is also trying to get his point across in the wrong area. Lucthedog2 (talk) 20:33, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
:::we get it. have patience 47.160.9.52 ↗ (talk) 20:36, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
::::Yep ik Lucthedog2 (talk) 20:37, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::no you don’t. 47.160.9.52 ↗ (talk) 20:39, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Proposed deletion ↗ of :2025 Brooklyn Park TBM-700 crash ↗


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The article :2025 Brooklyn Park TBM-700 crash ↗ has been proposed for deletion ↗&#32;because of the following concern:
<blockquote>'''Aircraft crashes are not automatically notable.'''</blockquote>

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You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{Tlc|proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary ↗ or on the article's talk page ↗.

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:well, yes but many have already reported on it. Grffffff (talk) 20:11, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
::{{Ping|Grffffff}} This is not a valid justification for an article. Mainspace articles must meet WP:N ↗; I recommend you read WP:RECENTISM ↗. If you continue to create articles without proper justification, you may be topic banned from creating articles in mainspace. <span style="font-family: monospace;">elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him)</span> 21:34, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
:::ok lol Grffffff (talk) 05:49, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Tristar Air Flight 810 ↗ moved to draftspace



Thanks for your contributions to Tristar Air Flight 810 ↗. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because '''it needs more sources to establish notability''' and '''sources that provide significant ↗/in-depth ↗ and continued coverage ↗ of the accident itself'''.
I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page ↗.
When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 10:26, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

:what more do i need to add? Grffffff (talk) 12:49, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

April 2025



25px|alt=Information icon ↗ Hello. I have noticed that you {{usertalk other|often ↗|often}} edit without using an edit summary ↗. Please do your best to '''always fill in the summary field'''. This helps your fellow editors use their time more productively, rather than spending it unnecessarily scrutinizing and verifying your work. Even a short summary is better than no summary, and summaries are particularly important for large, complex, or potentially controversial edits. To help yourself remember, you may wish to check the "prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" box in your preferences ↗. Thanks! <!-- Template:Uw-editsummary2 --> Hacked (Talk|Contribs ↗) 03:11, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: Tristar Air Flight 810 ↗ (April 14)


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Proposed deletion ↗ of :Frontier Airlines Flight 3506 ↗


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The article :Frontier Airlines Flight 3506 ↗ has been proposed for deletion ↗&#32;because of the following concern:
<blockquote>'''Run-of-the-mill ↗ incident, fails WP:EVENT ↗ and WP:GNG ↗'''</blockquote>

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Nomination of :Frontier Airlines Flight 3506 ↗ for deletion


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The article will be discussed at '''Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frontier Airlines Flight 3506 ↗''' until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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:but it’s well known and a serious incident. Grffffff (talk) 13:51, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

2025 Cha-am DHC-6 crash ↗ moved to draftspace



Thanks for your contributions to 2025 Cha-am DHC-6 crash ↗. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because '''it needs more sources to establish notability''' and '''needs more text and sections'''.
I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page ↗.
When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 09:29, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

:dude people have edited it thus it’s ready Grffffff (talk) 11:21, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation ↗: 2025 Royal Thai Police DHC-6 crash ↗ (April 26)


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:ok so wtf do i do Grffffff (talk) 12:53, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of :Aeroflot Flight 512 ↗ for deletion


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IndiGo Flight 889 ↗ moved to draftspace



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Ways to improve Air Panamá Flight 982



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:{{Re|Noleander}}it’s been fixedGrffffff (talk) 15:57, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Air Panamá Flight 982 ↗



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Noleander (talk) 15:33, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

:I have fixed the problems. Should be good now. Grffffff (talk) 15:52, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

":FedEx Express Flight 3609 ↗" listed at Redirects for discussion ↗


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Page moves



Please discuss page moves prior to making them unless in uncontroversial cases. This is not one of those cases. <b style="font-family:Helvetica Neue;color:#fc1008">Commissar</b><b style="font-family:Helvetica Neue;color:#0363ff">Doggo</b>''<sup style="font-family:Helvetica Neue;color:#0363ff">Talk?</sup>'' 21:39, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

:it happened in Murphy Canyon Grffffff (talk) 21:43, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
::WP:COMMONNAME ↗, a decent chunk of the sources I've seen have stated something along the lines of "a small plane has crashed in San Diego" instead of the Murphy Canyon neighbourhood. NYT, BBC, CNN, AP news, NBC have all stated San Diego in either the headline or the first sentences. <b style="font-family:Helvetica Neue;color:#fc1008">Commissar</b><b style="font-family:Helvetica Neue;color:#0363ff">Doggo</b>''<sup style="font-family:Helvetica Neue;color:#0363ff">Talk?</sup>'' 21:47, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Notability



Stop posting articles if you can't understand notability. You have been told numerous times how to improve but continue to post articles that don't meet notability. It's blunt, but nothing else is working. It's teetering on vandalism. Relton66 (talk) 00:04, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

:Can you please explain to me your logic for inclusion. Why is the Angara Airlines event notable? "It is" isn't sufficient and to me it seems you don't even know, you just desperately want one of your articles to get accepted. If you want to add general accidents that don't fit here, go to the Aviation Safety Network Wikibase. Relton66 (talk) 00:13, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
::Well it has a lot of sources about the incident. Grffffff (talk) 01:52, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
:::Just because it has a lot of sources doesn't by default mean it is notable. I understand your logic, but always think about the future, will people open the app and search the specific accident? But, as I said, I think you'd be a great addition to the Aviation Safety Network team. You seem passionate about aviation safety and their database covers everything, from airliner crashes to small Cessna mishaps. Relton66 (talk) 03:41, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
::::I also want to apologize for my harsh words earlier, I was working under the impression this was malicious. But I see you're genuinely passionate and doing this out of good faith. I think it's partly to do with Wikipedia being vague on their notability rules. I was initially confused by this as well. I believe it is to do with sources, that's not wrong, but also about lasting impact. Will people look back and remember this in the future? Hope this helps. Relton66 (talk) 03:48, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of :Angara Airlines Flight RA-46620 ↗ for deletion


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2025 South Korea Lockheed P-3 Orion crash ↗ moved to draftspace



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:Fixed it Grffffff (talk) 13:35, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of :2025 South Korean Lockheed P-3 Orion crash ↗ for deletion


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Stop create none important article pls


Stop pls125.227.26.172 ↗ (talk) 10:45, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hey {{re|Grffffff}}, kindly don't keep creating new stub articles on trivial/unnotable aviation accidents/incidents as this behaviour is considered disruptive, especially considering the sheer magnitude of articles you have created. If you are insistent on creating aviation-related articles, I suggest you look through the missing aviation articles page ↗ which curates an exhaustive list of ''potentially'' notable aviation accidents that don't have an article for them yet. I say potentially, since the onus is on you to find reliable secondary sources; otherwise, not much progress will be made from where your articles are currently. Thanks! 15:38, 1 June 2025 (UTC) GalacticOrbits (talk) 15:38, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
::Not trying to Grffffff (talk) 22:16, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
:I’m not trying to Grffffff (talk) 22:15, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
::Your article creations are no doubt well-intentioned, but far too many of them are non-notable and end up at AfD ↗. Please take the time to review the notability criteria and think hard as to whether an accident has any encyclopedic value. If in doubt, err on the side of caution until notability becomes clear, there's no rush to create articles ↗. Rosbif73 (talk) 08:51, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
:::Sorry about that. Grffffff (talk) 15:04, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
::he should be banned from edit again forever, cuz he said sth bad word at Air panama 982 delete page. 122.147.252.162 ↗ (talk) 12:46, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
:::I think youre too young to be on Wikipedia Grffffff (talk) 15:04, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
::::{{re|122.147.252.162}} Hey, note that Wikipedia is not a battleground ↗ and being civil amongst editors is a core guideline for ensuring a welcoming editing environment. Please don't make hateful comments regarding Grffffff, even if your views contradict those of Grffffff's. Thank you. GalacticOrbits (talk) 20:27, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
:::::I didn’t say anything? Grffffff (talk) 13:54, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
::::::You did, you called the deletion discussion "shit" and compared the accident to Tenerife. Relton66 (talk) 03:37, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
:::::::True Grffffff (talk) 15:14, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Seems pretty professional. Megabyte21 (talk) 02:23, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Barnstar for you!



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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Thank you for not making an article of the ryanair incident, I was expecting you to make one but you listened and didn't make it because it doesn't follow the guidelines, heres your barnstar!. Megabyte21 (talk) 02:22, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
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:Now your just making fun of me… Grffffff (talk) 21:36, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

June 2025


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:I’ve edited this page many times if it’s a snippet of a news article it doesn’t have to be cited. Grffffff (talk) 14:54, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

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:Scary Grffffff (talk) 14:53, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

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:Use context clues Grffffff (talk) 15:07, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
::In that photo the accident site is slightly to the left of the airport, did the plane side slip there? Did the plans turn right to get there no. Use context clues. Grffffff (talk) 15:10, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
:::Wikipedia does not use context clues as reliable sources ↗. The plane may have been blown left by wind. It may have impacted a building and veered left. Stick to published sources. Analyzing images and maps is WP:OR ↗. Celjski Grad (talk) 15:12, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

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::Alrighty sorry Grffffff (talk) 12:43, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

Another aircraft went down



Hello grffffff, there's another Turkish Air Force Flight 543 (flight number from flight data), aircraft C-130 ↗ has recently shot down and crashes near Azerbaijan and Georgia border. Do you have to make it or not? Shaqil (talk) 14:29, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

:I didnt make it. Grffffff (talk) 04:13, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

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Nomination of :2025 Samaritan's Purse Cessna 208 hijacking ↗ for deletion


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Nomination of :Harmony Jets Flight 185 ↗ for deletion


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The month does not need to be in the caption.



It is not needed unless it was taken the same year it crashed. You have not given any reason for removing my edits. I feel like you're having a grudge against me. You remove all my messages on your talk page although you have the right to do that and might remove this one as well. If you're going to remove my edit at, last give a reason. Zaptain United (talk) 05:28, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion ↗ of :Buddha Air Flight 901 ↗


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Nomination of :Buddha Air Flight 901 ↗ for deletion


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Categories


Hello, Grffffff,

You clearly don't know how to add an article to a category so please do not edit category pages until you figure that out. Also, empty categories are deleted after being empty for 7 days, whether or not they are tagged which is just a way to keep track of when the 7 day period started. Please do not untag empty categories as long as they they are still empty.

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Speedy deletion ↗ nomination of :SUM Air ↗


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AIRES Colombia Flight 585 ↗ moved to draftspace



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Speedy deletion ↗ nomination of :Libyan United Airlines ↗


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Veloce 800 ↗ moved to draftspace



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Veloce 600 ↗ moved to draftspace



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Cessna E350 Turboprop Mustang ↗ moved to draftspace



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Nomination of :2025 Samaritan's Purse Cessna 208 hijacking ↗ for deletion


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Nomination of :Arik Air Flight 740 ↗ for deletion


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Aviation articles



Hi @Grffffff. A large number ↗ of your aviation articles have been deleted. Of the 19 articles you have authored, 9 of those have been deleted, either through WP:AfD ↗ or WP:G7 ↗. The community, whilst understanding and appreciative of your contributions, are starting to become a bit fatigued by your continuous non-notable article creations. I can see from your talk page history that this has been mentioned to you before, in particular by @GalacticOrbits. Please take greater care when assessing which aviation accidents to create articles on. I would hate for you to be the subject of an AN/I discussion. Thank you and happy editing! <span style="color:#8C6A31; ">11WB</span> (talk) 23:54, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

Nomination of :Jackson P-51J ↗ for deletion


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Concern regarding Draft:Aeroflot Flight 512 ↗


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Gaspi (YouTuber)



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Nomination of :NetJets Flight 523 ↗ for deletion


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Nomination of :Kyrgyzstan Air Company Flight 3 ↗ for deletion


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