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I moved your comment about the CfD nomination of the Beatles songs in surround to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_October_6#Category:The_Beatles_songs_in_surround ↗, the right location. Hope this helps. Regards, Bencherlite <i><sup>Talk</sup></i> 22:58, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Octopus's Garden

Your bit about the rubbery chicken was fine. The reference that "needed citing" was the following: "In the Beatles' film ''Let It Be ↗'', Starr is shown rehearsing the song on piano, joined by Harrison, who assists him with the "We would be, so happy you and me..." portion of the song. Starr received sole writing credit despite this. {{Citation needed|date=October 2009}}".

To say that Starr received sole writing credit despite the fact that Harrison helped him with a portion (or portions) of the song insinuates that Harrison was denied songwriting credit, or that Ringo didn't really write as much as he was credited for - and this is speculative to say the least. The song was credited solely to Starr, and whether or not Harrison (or Lennon or McCartney or all three) helped him on the track, they let Ringo take the entire songwriting credit for this song. Doc9871 (talk) 06:45, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

False positive

{{Talkback|WP:FALSEPOS/Reports#Apanuggpak}} <span style="color:#005">Sh</span><span style="color:#007">i</span><span style="color:#009">r</span><span style="color:#00A">ik</span> <small>(<span style="color:#88C">Questions or Comments?</span>)</small> 00:21, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Talkback 2

{{Talkback|Shirik|Football league maps}}
And once again, sorry you got mixed up in this mess. It's just a matter of "wrong place, wrong time," really. Happy editing! --<span style="color:#005">Sh</span><span style="color:#007">i</span><span style="color:#009">r</span><span style="color:#00A">ik</span> <small>(<span style="color:#88C">Questions or Comments?</span>)</small> 00:47, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

{{Talkback|Shirik|England football maps}} <span style="color:#005">Sh</span><span style="color:#007">i</span><span style="color:#009">r</span><span style="color:#00A">ik</span> <small>(<span style="color:#88C">Questions or Comments?</span>)</small> 16:41, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

I am currently working on an article about Chelsea when it will be good, I'll take the work on the Football League--Ойген Евгений (talk) 17:21, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Boilerplate content, Phil Power

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia.

The boilerplate material you re-added in this edit ↗ (the paragraph beginning "the tables below") is not appropriate for a Wikipedia article: we do not explicitly call out our references in the article prose, but instead by using the usual footnotes system. I've raised a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#Football League season articles formatting ↗ which deals with some other content / layout problems in the Football League per-season articles.

I have also undone your recreation of the Phil Power ↗ article. Our guidelines on biographies of living persons ↗ state that new articles should not be created on living people without any reliable sources attached; furthermore, our notability guidelines on footballers ↗ require standalone articles on persons notable for their footballing careers to be established as having played in a fully-professional league, and no references have been provided for that purpose. if you have any questions or comments please feel free to contact me. Thanks! Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work) ↗ - talk ↗ 17:41, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

2004–05 Football Conference ↗

Hi, in this edit ↗ you appear to have transposed 05-06 conference data into the 04-05 article. Can you return the 04/05 information back to the article? Eldumpo (talk) 16:04, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
:Thanks for making the changes so quickly, and putting the 04/05 data back in. I could see you had been editing the page a lot and thought it was just a mistake. Regards. Eldumpo (talk) 08:24, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

2009–10 Football Conference ↗

Hi, I have reverted your edit to this article. I'm sure it was a lot of work, but large sections of the text and the tables were covered by the maps, and the overall effect was unreadable. I'm not sure why you felt the need to change the article so radically, and it would have been better to discuss your ideas first. As it stands, the article is in the same style as the other league articles from that season, and all the other Conference articles. You removed some very useful features that are required at various stages of the season in order to understand the league tables (such as the promotion / relegation / play-off symbols after the club's names), and the colours you used were very hard on the eyes as well, in my opinion. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 17:59, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
:I see you've done a few of these. To my mind, this is no kind of improvement - in fact, they're hideous. Why are the maps covering the corners of the tables? Bretonbanquet (talk) 18:03, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

In response to your message, the problem is not what you have added in terms of data or information, but rather that you are making the articles unreadable for anyone with a screen width resolution of less than 1366 pixels (screen width in terms of inches is irrelevant) because of how you have laid the articles out. Whilst many modern laptops can operate at this width, the majority of desktop computers and older laptops do not (my work computer cannot go beyond 1200 or so). This means that in every article you have edited, a significant number of readers (I would guess well over 50%) cannot view the article properly because the maps and infoboxes overlap the league tables or results grids, or the tables and grids are being distorted because they are being forced to be too narrow (i.e. the club names will display over several lines, meaning that you cannot even see a single league table on the screen without havign to scroll up and down). Plus, even at the almost maximum possible width of 1366 pixels, some of the grids are distorted because they are being cramped by left-aligned maps and cannot fit everyone on single lines.

If you want to see what the problem is like, change your screen resolution to 1260 x 720 and then have a look at an article like 1933–34 Football League ↗. You will see that the map covers part of the Third Division North table, whilst some results grids (notably Third Division South) is distorted by the adjacent map. This is a fairly good article in terms of the damage. I personally use a lower screen resolution due to poor eyesight (1170 or so) which means the results I get are even worse.

I would suggest that possible solutions to this are:
#Remove the maps and infoboxes
#Make the league tables narrower by only showing the overall records rather than home and away split - this should allow enough width for the infoboxes, but maps will still have to be removed.
#As #2, but with maps on a separate line (perhaps one section at the bottom of the article showing all four maps side by side).
However, I would advise that you do something quickly to fix the problem, as there are many articles (most Football League ones) that are still unreadable. <span style="color:orange;">Number</span> <span style="color:green;">5</span><span style="color:blue;">7</span> ↗ 21:48, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
:PS - I notice you have complained about my editing on another users' page and that I did not have the courtesy to inform you. This is not how Wikipedia works - you do not have to tell someone every time you change what they have written. I suggest you look again at this version ↗ of the article on a normal screen resolution and tell me whether you think it is in an acceptable state. Even at 1366 pixels, every single table is distorted and partially covered by a map. I only reverted the one I came across, but it would be appreciated if you could clear up all the other articles which are affected. <span style="color:orange;">Number</span> <span style="color:green;">5</span><span style="color:blue;">7</span> ↗ 22:01, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

::Hi, I am not going to attempt to answer all of your points - your comment was the longest comment I have ever received, and I do not have the time or the inclination to answer in detail. I appreciate that you made a lot of effort, but you must also appreciate that your changes were not at all popular. I started a discussion here ↗ and there was no support for your changes. Also, there have never, ever been any complaints about the articles as they were before.
::Firstly, these articles are to be kept simple. Wikipedia is not a repository for every statistic that is known about a subject. They are supposed to be able to be read by someone with a limited knowledge of the subject, and your changes made them far too complicated. Too many different colours make the thing very hard to follow, even with a key. Colours I object to include the bright yellow, turquoise and the darkish red - no pastels there. The tables are also too wide - home and away stats are just not necessary at this level of article. FA Trophy goals? What relevance does this have to an article about the Conference? More detailed maps are not necessary - it's not an atlas. Separate maps for London? This isn't a football stats website. Wikipedia is not designed to provide every single piece of information. Another point is that the current articles need to be updated once or twice a week - the more complicated the article, the longer this takes. Given that I generally do it myself, I would stop if I had to contend with the unwieldy format you use. My guess is that nobody else would do it either, since they don't even now on occasions when I am not able to update. It's already time-consuming. Furthermore, your statement that the C, P and R etc in the tables has no explanation is untrue - the explanation is clear to see under the table. In any case, it's fairly obvious what R means when a team is shaded pink, in the bottom three. It even says "Relegation to the League X" in the table next to the teams' record. There have never been any complaints. Your format contained no indicator to differentiate teams that have qualified for the play-offs from those who have not ''before the season has ended'', to replace the Q.
::Your comments about the limitations of my computer and the computers of other readers are thoroughly objectionable. The attitude that only people who can afford big screens can read the articles shows a total misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is all about. All articles should be readable to everyone - if this is not the case, then articles should be simplified to enable this goal. That is why I reverted some of your articles. You must make the other articles readable to all, or they too should be reverted. Lastly, the idea that you wanted to use the V word, makes me want to use the F word. Make anything as widely known as you like, and be aware that I don't like or deal with people who make veiled threats. I was, and am, entitled to revert all of your changes if I wish, on the grounds that a large proportion of readers can't read them. When you create something on Wikipedia, you are creating something for '''everyone''' to use, not some kind of chosen few with 20" screens. Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:18, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
:::thumb|right|200px|How the football league article appears on a 1152x864 resolution ↗Now viewing the article in question 1933–34 Football League ↗ at work, the problem is even worse - I have attached a screenshot to the left, which shows the map overlapping the table, which itself cannot be viewed on a full screen due to the infobox's presence. To respond to your other points:
:::#There is nothing you can do with the infobox, so in cases where it causing a problem, you will just have to remove it.
:::#The maps should probably go in a separate section the bottom if they are to be kept. On the 1933-34 Football League article, the Division One map is forced below the table and creates a huge amount of whitespace between the table and the results grid.
:::#I don't think putting any detail into the XXXX-XX in English football articles would help, as the Football League ones would still be unreadable.
:::#The colours in that article are just about ok - yellow for champions is a bit garish. The Football Conference articles with multiple colours are awful though.
:::Looking at other articles you have edited, I think one other problem you are introducing is forcing column widths into tables. I think this should be avoided as columns will automatically adjust to being the maximum width required (unless it is wider than the screen). <span style="color:orange;">Number</span> <span style="color:green;">5</span><span style="color:blue;">7</span> ↗ 08:23, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Russian America vs. Russian Alaska

The definition of Russian America includes Russian colonial possessions in the Americas from 1733 to 1867 that today is the U.S. state of Alaska '''AND''' settlements farther south in California and Hawaii, whereas Russian Alaska only refers to those holdings in Alaska. Russian Alaska is a part of Russian America, not the sum of all parts. I too am a published author of books and magazine articles. Jeff Smith (talk) 01:00, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Earthquakes in Peru Category

Hi Apanuggpak, I've reverted most of your additions of the 'category:Earthquakes in Peru' because it is the parent to the 'category:Megathrust earthquakes in Peru'. Mikenorton (talk) 20:14, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

:Don't worry, I'm sure that I've done it myself more than once - the hierachy of categories can only be found by clicking through them I think, there's not necessarily much logic to it (even if in this case there was some). Mikenorton (talk) 20:24, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

:I've replied to your question on my talk page - I find that easier. Mikenorton (talk) 20:55, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Dezhnev article

Hi. You made some changes in Semyon Dezhnev ↗. The business about the Diomedes and the Kamchatka River (see the Fedotov story in Fedot Alekseyev Popov ↗) is not supported by Fisher's book. Your information seems to come from Lydia Black's book which I don't have. Does she cite any scholarship that would correct Fisher? Benjamin Trovato (talk) 03:33, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Tectonic setting section

Hi Apanuggpak, I've suggested an alternative for the tectonic setting section in your sandbox, I hope that's OK. (I have your talk page on my watchlist, so it's OK to answer here) Mikenorton (talk) 20:07, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Arvid Adolf Etholén ↗

Please see WP:MOVE ↗ and do not move articles by copy/pasting. Thanks for bringing up the issue though. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 10:56, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK hook

Hi Apanuggpak, I've finished with the 1746 Lima-Callao earthquake ↗ (note that I moved the article to a title with a lower case 'e') for now. Do you have a source for the 29,000 death toll?

My suggested hooks for DYK are

... that the '''1746 Lima-Callao earthquake ↗''' was the deadliest earthquake to strike Peru before the 1970 Ancash earthquake ↗?

... that the tsunami ↗ triggered by the '''1746 Lima-Callao earthquake ↗''' destroyed the port city of Callao ↗, leaving less than two hundred survivors?

... that the tsunami ↗ triggered by the '''1746 Lima-Callao earthquake ↗''' drove four ships in the harbour over the ruins of Callao ↗ up to nearly a mile inland?

What do you think? Mikenorton (talk) 23:25, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

:Hi Mike, I think all of them sound very matter-of-fact, but I think it is possible to present “considerations”, shall we say. With the first one, I think the problem is that many people, myself included, had never heard of the 1970 Ancash earthquake ↗, whereas the 1960 one in Chile is often referred to, as is the 1964 Alaska one. (I’ve actually visited Chenega Bay; one third of the residents of the old Chenega were killed by the tsunami, and I’ve heard stories about it in and around Kodiak as well.) The other two would be better to work on. You could say for example, that

... that the tsunami ↗ triggered by the '''1746 Lima-Callao earthquake ↗''' killed ''so and so many people'' in the port city of Callao ↗, and drove four ships in the harbour over the ruins of Callao ↗ up to nearly a mile inland??

If Khlebnikov is correct (you can never be sure of more or less casual writers from that period), his info of 22 persons surviving inside the fort’s walls would be interesting, if juxtaposed with the number of people killed by the tsunami… So you could say:

... that the tsunami ↗ triggered by the '''1746 Lima-Callao earthquake ↗''' killed ''so and so many people'' in the port city of Callao ↗, with 22 persons surviving, protected by the walls of Callao’s fort, and drove four ships in the harbour over the ruins of Callao ↗ up to nearly a mile inland?

… that is, if that doesn’t get too wordy. I think the argument of ''human interest'', whatever it would mean in this case, would be worth consideration. I think, even in this case, what it meant to the human beings involved, would be a strong argument. I could ask my geologist friend on his views (he’s not in Wikipedia), but it would not be a bad idea to consult some laymen, i.e. people who are not professionals in geology.

This is what come’s to my mind. I hope this is of some help. Apanuggpak (talk) 20:14, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

:OK, I'll look through your suggestions but note that there is a limit of 200 characters (including spaces and the leading ellipsis and final question mark) for the hook. I agree about the human interest, although being a scientist I tend to go for the facts, that's why it's good to have your views. We only have a few days to nominate this (it has to be in by Monday as there's a five day limit for submission), but we can suggest several hooks and even suggest others later before it's reviewed, so that's not really an issue. Mikenorton (talk) 20:28, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
:As to the 1970 Ancash earthquake, I'm old enough to remember the news reports of the destruction of Yungay ↗ beneath a sea of ice-cold mud. Mikenorton (talk) 20:37, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

:*How about
::... that the tsunami ↗ caused by the '''1746 Lima-Callao earthquake ↗''' flattened the port of Callao ↗, killing most of its 5–6,000 inhabitants, and drove two warships nearly a mile inland over the ruins? - which meets the length requirements just. Mikenorton (talk) 21:20, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

I think that sounds fine, if we have space limitations/concerns. Warships sounds impressive. It would be quite something (something very new to me), if the DYK nomination goes thru. Please let me know if it does. I don’t necessarily look at the (English) front page every day. I just chatted with a Chinese friend of mine on Skype, and he seemed quite impressed by the article. Apanuggpak (talk) 02:19, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, seems I didn’t read all of your message, overlooked it, just noticed the last part. But anyway, I would also be old enough to remember events from 1970, but I was living in South-West Africa at the time (that was the name back then), and we were in a black hole as far as news were concerned. Some people around me read the ''Allgemeine Zeitung'' (of Windhoek, not of Frankfurt a/m), but I hardly even knew much English back then, not to speak of German. I was a geography freak back then so I would have been interested had I known about the events.

How about “drove two warships ''and two other large vessels'' [or something to that effect] nearly a mile inland over the ruins.” Apanuggpak (talk) 02:29, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

:Sorry, but that would push it over the limit (there are just 7 characters to play with here - my last attempt above has 193, as opposed to the 200 character limit, and occasionally ones close to 200 are thought too long), so I'll nominate using that hook.

I asked above about a source for the 29,000 deaths (you probably missed it amongst all the other things) as I have been unable to find ones for more than 18,000. The 5941 that I've put in the article is clearly derived from 1141 in Lima + 5000 - 200 survivors in Callao, which makes sense. People are always exaggerating death numbers in disasters. Mikenorton (talk) 16:29, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

The nomination is in, you can watch its progress at Template:Did you know nominations/1746 Lima-Callao earthquake ↗ or at Template talk:Did you know ↗. As joint creator you can of course respond to any comments, but I will be watching it. I still need to carry out a review of one of the other nominations, which I will do, probably tomorrow. Mikenorton (talk) 22:25, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Article on main page

Hi again Apanuggpak, this is to alert you that the 1746 Lima-Callao earthquake ↗ will appear on the main page in the next update (00:00 UTC). You should get a DYK credit on your talk page anyway, assuming the system's working OK (which it almost always is). Mikenorton (talk) 16:57, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for 1746 Lima-Callao earthquake

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Football league articles

The problems you created on the Football League articles have been raised again at WT:FOOTY#1987–88 Football League ↗. <span style="color:orange;">Number</span> <span style="color:green;">5</span><span style="color:blue;">7</span> ↗ 09:43, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Finnish League and Cup articles

Hi Apanuggpak. I am making contact with those Editors that take an active interest in Finnish football on English Wikipedia.

For a long time I have been happy to work on Finnish football on Wikipedia without making contact with other Finnish football enthusiasts - basically I like preparing articles / undertaking tasks that interest me and contact with others has not been important. However recently some of my work was changed by a Wikipedia Reviewer and this has led me to question what approach I should be following and indeed what approach would other Finnish football enthusiasts wish to adopt?

The current issue I face is the naming of Finnish Football League and Cup pages. I have adopted the approach that we should always be using the Finnish name in the title, for example 2007 Ykkönen ↗ and 2001 Veikkausliiga ↗. However, I am aware that words like Mestaruussarja mean very little to most English speaking Wikipedia users. I therefore have included the English name in the title as well in recent pages, for example, 1936 Mestaruussarja – Finnish League Championship ↗, 1938 Suomensarja – Finnish League Division 2 ↗ and 2000 Kakkonen – Finnish League Division 2 ↗. I thought that this approach might be a suitable naming convention until the Reviewer changed "2012 Suomen Cup - Finnish Cup" back to 2012 Finnish Cup ↗.

'''The basic question I am asking is whether Finnish League and Cup articles should have a Finnish or English title or some form of hybrid?'''

I provide examples below:

{|
|valign="top" width=0%|
{| class="wikitable"
|- style="background:#f0f6fa;"
!'''Finnish Title'''
!'''English Title'''
!'''Hybrid Title'''
|-
|2012 Veikkausliiga
|2012 Finnish Championship
|2012 Finnish Veikkausliiga
|-
|2012 Kolmonen
|2012 Finnish Division 3
|2012 Finnish Kolmonen
|-
|2012 Suomen Cup
|2012 Finnish Cup
|2012 Finnish Suomen Cup
|-
|2012 Suomen Liigacup
|2012 Finnish League Cup
|2012 Finnish Liigacup
|-
|1938 Maakuntasarja
|1938 Finnish Division 3
|1938 Finnish Maakuntasarja
|-
|1954 Suomensarja
|1954 Finnish Division 2
|1954 Finnish Suomensarja
|-
|1970 II divisioona
|1970 Finnish Division 2
|1970 Finnish II divisioona
|-
|1986 III divisioona
|1986 Finnish Division 3
|1986 Finnish III divisioona
|-
|1997 Ykkönen
|1997 Finnish Division 1
|1997 Finnish Ykkönen
|-
|}
I have read Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) ↗ and Wikipedia:Article titles ↗ but have not reached a firm conclusion yet on the best way forward in establishing a consistent approach. The issue does matter with respect to the corrections I must make to existing pages and the tens of pages yet to be prepared. It could also carry implications for some of the articles that you currently contribute to.

I think that the matter would best be addressed on a proper basis and encourage that the issue is considered on the Talk Page ↗ of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Finland task force ↗. If the matter is of concern to you as well, please add your name to the list of participants ↗ on the main page.

You may also wish to comment on the project structure that I have prepared.

Kind regards - (Finnish Gas (Finnish Gas 14:03, 23 February 2012 (UTC)).

Finland

Thanks for the message. It is good to hear from you. I was in Helsinki yesterday but did not have time to get to the museum. Last night went to matches at Riihimaki and Jokela. Will now be heading for Heinavesi. I am not familiar with this computer and will reply properly in due course. Kind regards.¨(League Octopus 09:20, 27 July 2012 (UTC)).
:Unfortunately I am in Heinavesi most of the time but might be able to make a local match on Sunday 5 Aug. - just a slim chance as I have domestic commitments. Tuesday 7 Aug. is too late. Without a computer next week! Kind regards. (League Octopus 21:52, 27 July 2012 (UTC)).
::Thanks for getting back. There is a dearth of matches today and have been to HyPS too many times to get much enthusiasm to attend + have family commitments that I must meet. My Iphone was not activated properly to operate in Finland - very frustrating as cannot keep up with the Olympics results.

::Have not been able to give Finnish football on WP much attention of late - have been concentrating on contributing to admin processes and learning more about how WTFOOTY operates. Great to hear that you are working on Suomensarja etc. Kind regards. (League Octopus 11:27, 5 August 2012 (UTC)).

Aspelin-Johansson

How about here (http://www.worldtennismagazine.com/archives/7450 ↗) for a reference? 108.56.245.21 ↗ (talk) 21:34, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
:Glad you found the link useful and have gotten back into editing the Longest tennis match records page. I've got a couple of questions you might be able to help out with posted on the talk page of the Roger Federer career statistics page, regarding his Grand Slam record and his Olympic record. Just, if you're interested. 108.56.245.21 ↗ (talk) 23:53, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion ↗ nomination of :Tennis at the 2016 Summer Olympics – Men's singles ↗

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If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit '''the page's talk page directly ↗''' to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines ↗. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators ↗ to request that the administrator userfy ↗ the page or email a copy to you.   noq (talk) 16:14, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

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Are you sure that Rjurik is the correct spelling of his name? I think it is Finnish transcription of Russian Рюрик. Veps, like Russian and unlike Finnish, has consonant palatalization, so the correct transcription of Рюрик in Veps if we do not take Veps phonotactics into account would be R'urik, not Rjurik which would correspond to *Ръюрик. Back vowels after palatalized consonants become front vowels in Veps; palatalization in this case is not indicated, so R'urik becomes Rürik. This variant seems to be the correct spelling of Lonin's name, see http://vep.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fail:Vepsjulk_lonin.jpg ↗. Pjotr and Fjokla neither seem to be correct spellings. Burzuchius (talk) 19:07, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

:Hi, my starting point is that we are dealing with the Veps language and how it is pronounced. From this it follows that arguments should concern the phonological system and the phonotactics of the Veps language. The relation of these issues to the Russian language, I’m afraid, are beside the point, or miss the point.

:As you might know, the Veps letter <ü> corresponds to IPA ↗ [y], a speech sound that occurs in French, if we look at the langauges you are familiar with, the orthographic <nowiki><u></nowiki> being pronounced this way (IPA [y]). But the pronunciation of R.’s name in Veps is IPA [Rjurik]. Since Veps, as Finnish and Karelian orthography follows closely the IPA system of transcription of speech sounds, it follows that ''Rjurik'' is the correct written form of the name. I might also point out that his mother (and wife, for that matter) called him Jura (IPA [Jura]), not ''Üra'', which would have been very strange.

:The written form Rürik is his own invention, and he clearly believed in a 1:1 correspondence between the speech sounds/orthographic forms of Veps and Russian, and anything other, let's say "1:1" in context A, and "1:2" in context B, was something he would not have been able to understand.

:By the way, I do own two copies of Rjurik’s two Veps language books, having received them from him, and signed by him: “Hüväks muštoks [my name] avtoraspei 8.07.2000 v. R. Lonin.” (I think we never discussed the question of how to spell his name, since I knew that I would not have been able to influence him on this matter. And it was not among my priorities during the months that I lived in his house.)

:And I might add that in such things he could be very stubborn. For example, he maintained that Šoutar’v comes from the words “soutaa/souta” (‘грести’) + “järvi/d’ärv” (‘озеро’), because this idea had been put forward in the Fenno-Ugrists’s congress in Tallinn in 1970.http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%B6%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%81_%D1%84%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE-%D1%83%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B2 ↗ If you ask Irma Mullonen, it’s a totally different thing. Old maps show Шелтозеро, and we know what has happened to /l/ in such positions: /l/ > /u/. Thus we get ''Šou'' or ''Šout'' + ''järv(i)''. And no one seems to know what the original ''šol'' was.

:I’m sorry it took so for me to reply to your question. Please let me know if I need to elaborate my thoughts further.

:Yours sincerely, Apanuggpak (talk) 23:43, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

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I refuse simple because article looks worse and this is not been done before. There is absolutely no reason to center everything in a wikitable. You changed valid linebreaks (better before per html coding) and also why shorten the months and remove the things with sorting-value. To be honest I did not see how it improved article at all, to me it got worse. <i style="font-family:Verdana"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b> <b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 00:20, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Just a note about the month names. As far as column width is concerned the header, on, for example, Group H, is the constraining factor for all cells except the November one. On a narrower window this date will wrap, but at approximately (or exactly?) the same width so will "Group stage (1982, 1986, 2010)", "South Korea" and "AFC Fourth Round Group A Runners-up". So there is little or no width gain by abbreviating the months in this case. All the best: ''Rich Farmbrough'', <small>14:50, 21 June 2014 (UTC).</small><br />

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